Most likely transfer portal targets according to Gopherhole

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leib0039 said:
That would leave roughly 40-75 guys that you have that are both semi interested and passible as players.
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That would be plenty as far as I'm concerned especially if the number is at the upper end of that range.
 

cjbfbp said:
This kid just dropped a short time ago: Lu'Cye Patterson.

He's from Minnesota (apparently Minneapolis). Played for Brooklyn Center then Minnesota Prep Academy. Started 26 games and played all 34 for a 23-11 Missouri State team. He's a wide body (listed at 6'1" 230). Just a sophomore. Lousy 3 point shooter but good two point and fair free throw shooter. Made a big improvement from his freshman to soph year.

Anybody know anything about him?
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He's a good player, surprised he's in the portal. Can't shoot, but takes care of the ball and has decent size. Would be a great backup pg to go along with our current roster
 

Spottedmuskie said:
He's a good player, surprised he's in the portal. Can't shoot, but takes care of the ball and has decent size. Would be a great backup pg to go along with our current roster
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Yeah, that's what I wondered. Would we want him as a backup and would he come here as a backup?
 

cjbfbp said:
Yeah, that's what I wondered. Would we want him as a backup and would he come here as a backup?
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That's a good question, he would have played off our bench last year with Sutherlin. I wonder if he didn't start games at the end of the season and that's why he is looking to transfers? Missouri state had a real shot at the tourney, but ended up being the 3 seed behind Loyola Chicago and Drake. I don't think he'll be our top priority, but will be interesting if we offer. If we don't its most likely because he doesn't have an outside shot.
 

Spottedmuskie said:
That's a good question, he would have played off our bench last year with Sutherlin. I wonder if he didn't start games at the end of the season and that's why he is looking to transfers? Missouri state had a real shot at the tourney, but ended up being the 3 seed behind Loyola Chicago and Drake. I don't think he'll be our top priority, but will be interesting if we offer. If we don't its most likely because he doesn't have an outside shot.
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Johnson has specifically said one of his highest priorities in players is their ability to shoot. I would be surprised to see us bring in any guards at this point that can't shoot well from the outside but obviously anything is possible if they feel a players other skills fit needs on the team.
 


MNVCGUY said:
Johnson has specifically said one of his highest priorities in players is their ability to shoot. I would be surprised to see us bring in any guards at this point that can't shoot well from the outside but obviously anything is possible if they feel a players other skills fit needs on the team.
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I could see an exception especially if it is a one year transfer (not sure on this player).
 

MNVCGUY said:
Johnson has specifically said one of his highest priorities in players is their ability to shoot. I would be surprised to see us bring in any guards at this point that can't shoot well from the outside but obviously anything is possible if they feel a players other skills fit needs on the team.
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Yes, he wouldn't seem like an ideal Ben Johnson player. He did increase his two-point and free throw shooting percentages considerably over his freshman season and his True Shooting Percentage as a soph was fair (.528). For comparison, that's a better True Shooting Percentage than Gabe had in 3 of his 4 collegiate years and he averaged over 30 minutes a game all four years. His 3 point shooting has been really lousy but he only averages about 1.7 three point attempts per 40 minutes of play so at least he's not taking a lot of those.

I'm just wondering if he might be acceptable playing 15 to 20 minutes per game. Sutherlin's True Shooting Percentage was only slightly better (.540) and he averaged 22 minutes per game. Loewe's was only .498 and he averaged 35 minutes per game. Of course, I'm sure Johnson would want to avoid giving that much game time again to someone who shot that poorly.
 


Spottedmuskie said:
I wonder if he didn't start games at the end of the season and that's why he is looking to transfers?
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He didn't start at the beginning of the season. Another player who started was hurt earlier in the season and that's why he became a starter. I checked into a Missouri State basketball board and that's what one of them said. I think they liked him as a player but felt his inability to shoot the 3 limited him and allowed defenders to sag off him. One poster said that he did develop a good ability to get to the rim. Sounds a bit like Sutherlin. They did praise his work ethic in improving himself over his freshman year.
 



Yah I think Patterson is a fairly easy pass. Can't shoot, pretty small, and multiple years left to take a scholarship. I agree if he was just a 1 yr left guy I think it would make more sense just to get someone as a backup who has started at the D1 level but thats not the case here.
 

MNVCGUY said:
Johnson has specifically said one of his highest priorities in players is their ability to shoot. I would be surprised to see us bring in any guards at this point that can't shoot well from the outside but obviously anything is possible if they feel a players other skills fit needs on the team.
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He already took Cooper who is not a great shooter. He shot a higher 3 point percentage than Patterson (not difficult) but a lower 2 point percentage. Cooper's shooting stats at Morehead St are pretty comparable to what Loewe shot here last season.
 

A 6-1 230 pound guard who can’t shoot is probably not ideal. Guess I’d take Gabe or even Sutherlin over him if that’s the comparison. But I haven’t seen him play he must be quicker than one would think with that frame?
 

I saw him play at the Pitino team camp a few years back. The kid competed hard and was a bull driving in the paint. Quicker than you think. I saw him have a good game on TV this year either against Drake or UNI… played in a good conference and looks like he improved from freshman year.. lack of outside shot scares me a bit.. if he was a 25% three point shooter I would be on board. Tough one here.
 



GopherWeatherGuy said:
He already took Cooper who is not a great shooter. He shot a higher 3 point percentage than Patterson (not difficult) but a lower 2 point percentage. Cooper's shooting stats at Morehead St are pretty comparable to what Loewe shot here last season.
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In the case of Cooper you can easily overlook his shooting some for his pass first mentality given our need at PG. Plus as a 6'4" PG he brings some great length to the table for defensive purposes.

With Cooper on board it really feels like the need would be for more of sharpshooting defensive specialist for the off guard position. Someone who can knock down some 3s but doesn't need to be a volume shooter.
 

GopherWeatherGuy said:
He already took Cooper who is not a great shooter. He shot a higher 3 point percentage than Patterson (not difficult) but a lower 2 point percentage. Cooper's shooting stats at Morehead St are pretty comparable to what Loewe shot here last season.
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Yes, Cooper's True Shooting Percentage was lower last year (.512) and only slightly higher for his 3 year career (.535). He is a much better 3 point shooter though (.366 for his career: .333 last year) so he at least is a threat from there. Come to think of it, Cooper might be an argument for not taking Patterson as we would have two point guards who aren't great shooters.
 

MNVCGUY said:
In the case of Cooper you can easily overlook his shooting some for his pass first mentality given our need at PG. Plus as a 6'4" PG he brings some great length to the table for defensive purposes.

With Cooper on board it really feels like the need would be for more of sharpshooting defensive specialist for the off guard position. Someone who can knock down some 3s but doesn't need to be a volume shooter.
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I would agree with that. I would say if we can still get Jones (or someone who is almost as good of a shooter) at the 2 guard, then Patterson probably would be worth it as a backup point for the last scholarship.
 

This guy just dropped: Malachi Smith

Leading scorer (19.9 pts/gm) for Chattanooga, a 27-8 team. He's from Belleville, IL so he hails from Big Ten territory. I'm sure Illinois will go hard after him if they have spots. .597 True Shooting Percentage, Player Efficiency Rating of 27.9, and Win Shares per 40 minutes of .241 last year. Let's at least offer.
 

cjbfbp said:
This guy just dropped: Malachi Smith

Leading scorer (19.9 pts/gm) for Chattanooga, a 27-8 team. He's from Belleville, IL so he hails from Big Ten territory. I'm sure Illinois will go hard after him if they have spots. .597 True Shooting Percentage, Player Efficiency Rating of 27.9, and Win Shares per 40 minutes of .241 last year. Let's at least offer.
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He would be a really nice add, but I feel another NIL bidding war coming on..
 

Speculation on who he is going to get is way over my head. Thought for sure it would be Strong by now. Stewart heads to UTM. Then Walton decides to do the NBA feed back thing. No idea where Jones is sitting. Fill these last two spots with a couple of good, solid players and he could have a nice turnaround season. Patience is not one of my few virtues.
 

fan of Ray Williams said:
Speculation on who he is going to get is way over my head. Thought for sure it would be Strong by now. Stewart heads to UTM. Then Walton decides to do the NBA feed back thing. No idea where Jones is sitting. Fill these last two spots with a couple of good, solid players and he could have a nice turnaround season. Patience is not one of my few virtues.
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Yeah the whole waiting game thing is frustrating as heck for fans. I mean we all know there are tons of moving parts behind the scenes but we only get little snippets of information here and there as to what is actually going on.
 

fan of Ray Williams said:
Speculation on who he is going to get is way over my head. Thought for sure it would be Strong by now. Stewart heads to UTM. Then Walton decides to do the NBA feed back thing. No idea where Jones is sitting. Fill these last two spots with a couple of good, solid players and he could have a nice turnaround season. Patience is not one of my few virtues.
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I'm all on board with this... Let's find some complementary B1G calliper players and roll...
 

Based on absolutely nothing, I think they only take 1 more, unless he's a real star, and throw the last scholarship to Ramberg for his hard work and contributions.
 

fan of Ray Williams said:
Speculation on who he is going to get is way over my head. Thought for sure it would be Strong by now. Stewart heads to UTM. Then Walton decides to do the NBA feed back thing. No idea where Jones is sitting. Fill these last two spots with a couple of good, solid players and he could have a nice turnaround season. Patience is not one of my few virtues.
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I hear ya, but we do know players need to be in portal by May 1st, so things are moving along at least.
 

Spottedmuskie said:
I hear ya, but we do know players need to be in portal by May 1st, so things are moving along at least.
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Isn't May 1st the simple immediate eligibility deadline? Pretty sure you can go in after and still be eligible but there are just more steps to take.
 

MNVCGUY said:
Isn't May 1st the simple immediate eligibility deadline? Pretty sure you can go in after and still be eligible but there are just more steps to take.
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Correct. There will for sure be some after May 1, you just have to play NCAA eligibility roulette. So Kent/Duke/AZ/KU/UNC can easily get more guys in....MN/NW/Pitt etc, yah good luck!
 

Spottedmuskie said:
He's a good player, surprised he's in the portal. Can't shoot, but takes care of the ball and has decent size. Would be a great backup pg to go along with our current roster
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He isn't a Big Ten level player. Way too slow to defend guards and his dad is a super helicopter parent. That's why Minnesota Prep was created.
 

TNGophfan said:
Based on absolutely nothing, I think they only take 1 more, unless he's a real star, and throw the last scholarship to Ramberg for his hard work and contributions.
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This is spot on. Ben wants one more combo guard starter who shoots well from three. Backup from the portal will only happen if there is a one-year player too good to pass up. Otherwise, Backup guard play will be covered by Carrington and Henley. It's a good plan.
 

Dakota2 said:
This is spot on. Ben wants one more combo guard starter who shoots well from three. Backup from the portal will only happen if there is a one-year player too good to pass up. Otherwise, Backup guard play will be covered by Carrington and Henley. It's a good plan.
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The Strib article today says that we only have one scholarship left. Not sure what Marcus based that on, but it doesn't sound like we are going for 2 more.
 

WriterGoph said:
The Strib article today says that we only have one scholarship left. Not sure what Marcus based that on, but it doesn't sound like we are going for 2 more.
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If this is the case, seems like we are waiting for Jones instead of taking Strong over him. Are we waiting on Walton over both?
 

WriterGoph said:
The Strib article today says that we only have one scholarship left. Not sure what Marcus based that on, but it doesn't sound like we are going for 2 more.
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We should have two left but maybe Johson doesn't want to fill the last one. Maybe he figures that getting two more guards will squeeze out the freshmen too much. Hope we don't have any injuries!
 

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