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Unbelievable season! Yes ugly at times and missed layups but their defense is legit. The officiating was baffling even tho at the end Gophers shot more FT’s. Nice to see them fight through foul trouble and grind it out. Now they have some practice days to clean some things up. Congratulations Gophers!
 

It's nice to have a good free throw shooting team. Illinois did a good job of limiting open threes for the Gophers. Shawna Green (like Coach P) is a good coach. Maybe just me, but I struggle with Sloane Martin doing the play-by-play. A bit too dramatic for my liking. BIG tourney is going to be fun. Buckle up!
 

and now we can REST until around 2:30 friday afternoon.. who would have THOUGHT a DOUBLE BYE when we started 3-4 in conference play..

yes the last two games have been bumpy.. but time to reset and start 0-0 on friday night

hope to see PLENTY of Gopher fans down in Indy!
 
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They showed resiliency and made the shots down the stretch for the W. I was screaming for coach to take a TO with under 3 minutes when we started committing turn overs and were not handling the pressure well. I was amazed that the refs didn’t call the fouls late on Sophie even though she was straight up and never touched the IL player. I’m so used to us having many of the game deciding calls go against us- a little MN PTSD, lol. Fantastic regular season ! Let’s make some noise in the tourney !!
 

Gophers112233 said:
and now we can REST until around 8:30 friday evening.. who would have THOUGHT a DOUBLE BYE when we started 3-4 in conference play..

yes the last two games have been bumpy.. but time to reset and start 0-0 on friday night

hope to see PLENTY of Gopher fans down in Indy!
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#4-#5 game listed for 25 min after the noon first game Friday.
 





Gophers112233 said:
and now we can REST until around 2:30 friday afternoon.. who would have THOUGHT a DOUBLE BYE when we started 3-4 in conference play..

yes the last two games have been bumpy.. but time to reset and start 0-0 on friday night

hope to see PLENTY of Gopher fans down in Indy!
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And, remember that Indianapolis is Eastern time. A 2:30 PM Friday game in Indy is 1:30 PM in Minnesota.
 

So, am I correct in thinking that we'll play one of these 3 teams in our first game: Ohio State (likely), Nebraska (possibly), Indiana (unlikely)? OSU not a bad draw for the Gophers...but then UCLA waiting in the wings for the winner.
 


Gopher_In_NYC said:
The NET relating of under 10 disagrees with you 🤷‍♂️
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Please. They gamed the NET system beautifully but I will never not wonder if the team would have been more ready for Kansas, Alabama, Maryland etc. if their non-conference play had been of their caliber instead of only one team that made it to 20 wins and five that finished below .500.
 



Is OSU playing the winner of Indiana-Nebraska?
 

thatjanelpick said:
Please. They gamed the NET system beautifully but I will never not wonder if the team would have been more ready for Kansas, Alabama,
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When did Kansas and Alabama join the B10 🥸

That was the part of the non-conference schedule to build up for brutal the B10 schedule.

I’m sorry, but I trust Coach P and her record of success, vs. your musings🤷‍♂️
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Maryland etc. if their non-conference play had been of their caliber instead of only one team that made it to 20 wins and five that finished below .500.
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Not sure if you ever played competitive sports, or had to compete in work or not, but I learned more from the pitchers who struck me out in college or the sales I didn’t close than those I did; invariably, you basically gotta lose in order to learn how to win.
 
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thatjanelpick said:
Please. They gamed the NET system beautifully but I will never not wonder if the team would have been more ready for Kansas, Alabama, Maryland etc. if their non-conference play had been of their caliber instead of only one team that made it to 20 wins and five that finished below .500.
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remember we didn't have Tori in the 2nd half of the Kansas game, did NOT have Tori for the Bama game.. and we only got 2 and half quarters of Tori in that Maryland game.. just saying
 

Our young ladies got sped up towards the end. But a loss would have been due to the end of the half. Trying to get thru it those last three minutes voluntarily short 2 starters was not working. It turned the rest of the game into a slug fest.
 

Gophers were a hard team to schedule coming into the season. There was no national buzz. Going forward going to guess they could book some better games that don’t hurt either team win or lose.

1-2 against the top 3.
Didn’t lose to a conference team under .500
Alabama currently #24 in a deep SEC.
Kansas is one game they’re like back but they are still a 8-10 B12 team.
 

thatjanelpick said:
Please. They gamed the NET system beautifully but I will never not wonder if the team would have been more ready for Kansas, Alabama, Maryland etc. if their non-conference play had been of their caliber instead of only one team that made it to 20 wins and five that finished below .500.
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Almost every team who doesn't have non-conference rivals they play every year seem to play all cupcakes except for 2-4 games.

Their NET was helped by destroying Marquette (even if they aren't as good as predicted, they aren't a cupcake) by more points than UConn and blowing out almost all the bottom Big Ten teams (including Wisconsin who had some big upsets).

If I remember weren't Hart and Tonga terrible in the Kansas game? Maybe it isn't a bad thing they (and the rest of the team) improved significantly as the season went on.
 
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tripledouble said:
It's nice to have a good free throw shooting team. Illinois did a good job of limiting open threes for the Gophers. Shawna Green (like Coach P) is a good coach. Maybe just me, but I struggle with Sloane Martin doing the play-by-play. A bit too dramatic for my liking. BIG tourney is going to be fun. Buckle up!
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I agree. In her opinion, every young player is “elite” and “going to be hard to pass on in the draft”.
 

thatjanelpick said:
Please. They gamed the NET system beautifully but I will never not wonder if the team would have been more ready for Kansas, Alabama, Maryland etc. if their non-conference play had been of their caliber instead of only one team that made it to 20 wins and five that finished below .500.
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I didn't, but perhaps others on this forum did, write or contribute to the generating the algorithm used to calculate the NET. I suspect that if the algorithm was public, many coaches would "game" the system.
Perhaps during the off-season, changes will be made to the algorithm, then Coach P will have figure to figure out a different way to "game" the system. Until then...
- Our NET is an eight.
- Our conference record is 13-5 and she can't "game" that.
- We have a double-bye.
- We are mentioned as a hosting team. Coach P even mentioned it in the post game interview.

I am ecstatic with the play and success of this team... I hope she has "gamed" us into hosting and a possible Sweet Sixteen.

Do it again next year!
 

Regular season Final +/-

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Sophie 15
Amaya 9
Tori 6
GG 6
Mara 3
Glenn -4
Tonga -7
Nia -7
 

thatjanelpick said:
...which, even with the great season, remains true
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Eh. You look at other comparable Big Ten teams like Michigan State and Maryland who are also expected to host in the tournament and their nonconference schedule was about as easy as ours. A few hard games and the rest were very easy. Why go too much harder if you can get 13 wins and potentially host without?
 

Star City said:
Their NET was helped by destroying Marquette (even if they aren't as good as predicted, they aren't a cupcake) by more points than UConn and blowing out almost all the bottom Big Ten teams (including Wisconsin who had some big upsets).
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The factors considered in the NET for the men seem to be more widely known in public than the women, but from what I've seen online, the NET doesn't care about margins of victory greater than 10. So an 11 point win is as good to the NET as a 50 point win.

What it does factor in is offensive efficiency, which includes the average number of possessions that end in turnovers. If your system focuses on limiting turnovers and you regularly sit in the top 5 or 10 nationally for fewest turnovers while doing decently everywhere else, it turns out the NET loves you! I'd guess that's really how Coach P figured out how to game it.
 


I think I was wrong about something. I said this team has no WNBA players.

Tori McKinney could be a WNBA player. She took a step forward on offense this year. If she does the same again next year, then she'll be on the cusp.
 
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MaroonMagic said:
Eh. You look at other comparable Big Ten teams like Michigan State and Maryland who are also expected to host in the tournament and their nonconference schedule was about as easy as ours. A few hard games and the rest were very easy. Why go too much harder if you can get 13 wins and potentially host without?
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It seems odd that at the D1 level not all teams play the same amount of games. Teams play 28-31 games. Gophers played 29. 18 are conference and 2 were Power Conference and possibly Marquette. 21 or 29 is a pretty good number.

Oregon played 31 but only 2 were power conference outside of B1G.

14 of 18 played 29 games
3 played 30
1 played 31

In the SEC teams play 25 to 31 which is a big gap.
T A&M played 25: 16 conference and 4 Power Conference and 5 non conference.
Tennessee 28
Oklahoma 29
7 played 30
6 Played 31

Texas played 31: 16 conference and 3 power conference and 12 non conference.

On the Men's side all play 31 games.

B1G is 20 conference and 11 non conference.
SEC is 18 conference and 13 non conference.
 

Trust the coaching staff. They'll review and figure this stuff out. They surely don't need backseat drivers telling them how to coach. If they listened to and followed the crap on here they'd be 5-13 in the B1G this year. 😂
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Even if they win, the last two games they've been falling apart in the 4th quarters. Dumb, dumb turnovers.
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