Mbakwe Legal Issues Finally Resolved

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Rosemountian said:
Mbakwe needs a better lawyer IMO.
Pleading no contest in a case where the prosecution had no chance to prove him guilty leads me to think the legal team got lazy and just wanted to end it.
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Legal team advised him to fight it. Trevor just wanted it over with. That was in one of the articles about it.
 

scher215 said:
Legal team advised him to fight it. Trevor just wanted it over with. That was in one of the articles about it.
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Then I apologize to his legal team. Who ever gives him personal advice gave him bad advice.
 


Gopher Warrior said:
By the way, when you plead no contest in Florida the court essentially finds you guilty. It's very common in that state (not available in Minnesota). The defendant in such cases is generally saying, "go ahead and find me guilty, I am not going to argue.. but, I'm not saying I did it or didn't do it.. but, go ahead, say I'm guilty."
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Glad to see you're done grinding your axe with Trevor. :rolleyes: Pleading no contest is not uncommon and does not mean he is 'essentially guilty.' It means he doesn't want to go through the hassle given there is little to gain. As noted, it may be bad advice, but I think it's understandable. If he was blatantly guilty, the judge would refuse to accept the plea.
 

howeda7 said:
Glad to see you're done grinding your axe with Trevor. :rolleyes: Pleading no contest is not uncommon and does not mean he is 'essentially guilty.' It means he doesn't want to go through the hassle given there is little to gain. As noted, it may be bad advice, but I think it's understandable. If he was blatantly guilty, the judge would refuse to accept the plea.
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Sorry you don't understand Florida law, but you're wrong.
 



Gopher Warrior said:
Sorry you don't understand Florida law, but you're wrong.
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I don't know 'Florida' law specifically (I doubt you do either), but it is not the only state that has 'No Contest' laws. The places I have seen it, it does not mean 'essentially pleading guilty.' It is an admission that there may be enough evidence to find you guilty. In a 'he said, she said' case that is of course a possibility. And it's understandable why after 2 + years of ongoing stuff Trevor may want to simply have it over with. Unless you're going to tell me the Florida law is explicitly different than every other state's No Contest law, I have to assume you're just grinding the axe a bit more. It should be sharp by now. Let it go.
 

howeda7 said:
I don't know 'Florida' law specifically (I doubt you do either), but it is not the only state that has 'No Contest' laws. The places I have seen it, it does not mean 'essentially pleading guilty.' It is an admission that there may be enough evidence to find you guilty. In a 'he said, she said' case that is of course a possibility. And it's understandable why after 2 + years of ongoing stuff Trevor may want to simply have it over with. Unless you're going to tell me the Florida law is explicitly different than every other state's No Contest law, I have to assume you're just grinding the axe a bit more. It should be sharp by now. Let it go.
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Your assumption, like your understanding of Florida law, is wrong.

By the way, the "admission that there may be enough evidence to find you guilty" is not "no contest". That would be an Alford plea. Not the same thing.

I can handle your ignorance and refusal to acknowledge that you're speaking on topics that you simply do not understand when it comes to the law, but I don't appreciate the false accusations. There is no axe to grind - "let it go".
 

Gopher Warrior said:
Your assumption, like your understanding of Florida law, is wrong.

By the way, the "admission that there may be enough evidence to find you guilty" is not "no contest". That would be an Alford plea. Not the same thing.

I can handle your ignorance and refusal to acknowledge that you're speaking on topics that you simply do not understand when it comes to the law, but I don't appreciate the false accusations. There is no axe to grind - "let it go".
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If no contest and guilty are essentially the same thing then 1) why does no contest exist and 2) wouldn't his punishment be more severe?
 



There is no point in arguing something like this with GW. It's one of his special little topics. I can guarantee he has read the entire Internet on this subject. Twice. Don't ask him anything else about Florida law though. Prove a point and he'll pretend it didn't happen.
 

Gopher Warrior said:
Your assumption, like your understanding of Florida law, is wrong.

By the way, the "admission that there may be enough evidence to find you guilty" is not "no contest". That would be an Alford plea. Not the same thing.

I can handle your ignorance and refusal to acknowledge that you're speaking on topics that you simply do not understand when it comes to the law, but I don't appreciate the false accusations. There is no axe to grind - "let it go".
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I'm aware there is a difference between an Alford Plea and No Contest. It's really not relevant here anyway though and I'm getting into a debate over legal semantics with you.

Bottom-line, saying 'No Contest' = 'Essentially Guilty' is at best an exaggeration designed to make it look worse than it was, and your 'reporting' on this issue has been far from impartial.
 

From Lawyers.Com - "Criminal Processes in Florida:

Guilty plea. If you plead guilty, you're admitting to the facts of the crime and the fact that you were the one who committed that crime
Not guilty plea. A not guilty plea asserts that you did not commit the crime charged against you. After your plea, a pre-trial or trial date will be set
Nolo contendere (no contest) plea. A nolo contendere (no contest) plea indicates that while you are not admitting guilt, you don't dispute the charge. This is preferable to a guilty plea because guilty pleas can be used against you in later civil lawsuits

If you plead guilty or no contest, there will not be a trial. You'll then be sentenced.

(disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, but I used to buy pot from a guy who was a student at Hamline Law School.)
 

Gopher Warrior said:
The plea is what I fully expected and the likelihood of a 6th year remains at 2%, tops. To have this 'out of the way', so to speak, though, will help him move on to a professional career... just because it was an outstanding legal issue that could have gone a few different ways.
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Bump... interesting to look back at what folks expected about Mbakwe. How and why have your thoughts changed?

Mine are the same.
 



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