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Keyser Söze said:
I heard traveling before you jump totally negates the laws of physics, thus making dunking all over someone in emphatic fashion really easy. I'm not impressed either. Not one bit.
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Have you ever watched warmups? As I've stated, for the third time now, most these guys can do this routinely if the rules aren't being applied. What's impressive is when people do things like this but stay within the rules. I'm also not impressed by breaking a guy's ankles while traveling or goaltending a shot into the third row.
 



dpodoll68 said:
Have you ever watched warmups? As I've stated, for the third time now, most these guys can do this routinely if the rules aren't being applied. What's impressive is when people do things like this but stay within the rules. I'm also not impressed by breaking a guy's ankles while traveling or goaltending a shot into the third row.
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Warm ups don't put points on the board or have defenders involved
 



dpodoll68 said:
It's easy to beat defenders if the rules don't apply. It's easy to dunk if you're allowed to pick up the ball and run with it.
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If either of those happened I highly doubt the points would have counted.

Show me a box score where they called a travel, or a game recap where they said for a period of time the rules and regulations of college basketball do not apply.
 

Winasota Gopher said:
If either of those happened I highly doubt the points would have counted.

Show me a box score where they called a travel, or a game recap where they said for a period of time the rules and regulations of college basketball do not apply.
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I forgot - the refs never blow a call. Boy, you guys sure got me there! I concede! You're so clever!
 

dpodoll68 said:
I forgot - the refs never blow a call. Boy, you guys sure got me there! I concede! You're so clever!
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If the refs blew the call, do they blow calls in games where this guy dunks on people?

There's probably examples of dunks like this all over the Internet because it's easy to do when refs blow calls.
 



Winasota Gopher said:
If the refs blew the call, do they blow calls in games where this guy dunks on people?

There's probably examples of dunks like this all over the Internet because it's easy to do when refs blow calls.
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I'm sure he has lots of impressive dunks in games that were actually legal. So it begs the question why the poster included a video of him dunking as the result of a travel. Show him dunking like that while not traveling and I'll be impressed. It's not that complicated.

And yes, there are legal dunks much better than this all over the internet from guys who are much more athletic and much better basketball players than whoever this guy is.
 

dpodoll68 said:
I'm sure he has lots of impressive dunks in games that were actually legal. So it begs the question why the poster included a video of him dunking as the result of a travel. Show him dunking like that while not traveling and I'll be impressed. It's not that complicated.

And yes, there are legal dunks much better than this all over the internet from guys who are much more athletic and much better basketball players than whoever this guy is.
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Links?

And we'd take all those guys in a heart beat. Current roster has 0 guys that could do that, travel or not.

No one said he was an elite level talent because he can dunk over people, they said he was athletic. Of all people, Gopher Fans should know that highlight reels /= skill and basketball acumen. I believe the post that had the video in it, the poster said "wow".... Not "OMG HE's THE FUTURE!!!!," or "OMG I WANT HIM SO BADDDDD!"

Get off your high horse, there is nothing wrong with being impressed by that dunk, the guy has hops, and is quite strong. Like I said before, you're a killjoy .
 

Winasota Gopher said:
Links?

And we'd take all those guys in a heart beat. Current roster has 0 guys that could do that, travel or not.

No one said he was an elite level talent because he can dunk over people, they said he was athletic. Of all people, Gopher Fans should know that highlight reels /= skill and basketball acumen. I believe the post that had the video in it, the poster said "wow".... Not "OMG HE's THE FUTURE!!!!," or "OMG I WANT HIM SO BADDDDD!"

Get off your high horse, there is nothing wrong with being impressed by that dunk, the guy has hops, and is quite strong. Like I said before, you're a killjoy .
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http://tinyurl.com/kl4f9xy

Be impressed all you want. I'm not. Sue me.

Also, nice job on the ad hominem that you went back and deleted. You must be proud.
 

dpodoll68 said:
http://tinyurl.com/kl4f9xy

Be impressed all you want. I'm not. Sue me.

Also, nice job on the ad hominem that you went back and deleted. You must be proud.
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Prove that I posted it ;).... I didn't feel it added to anything, so I deleted it, quite mature of me.

I watched the first minute of that video, Jordan, Kobe, Penny Hardaway, an and 1 mix tape... That dunk could have been included in that video and it would have fit right in.

I'm not going to sue you, but I am going to call you out when you're adding nothing to the conversation of whether or not Marquette has people that we should look at picking up.
 



Deonte Burton to......where else but Iowa State

This is Hoiberg's second transfer from Marquette alone in the last calendar year. So disappointed in the media for continuing to kiss this guys backside.
 

EG#9 said:
Deonte Burton to......where else but Iowa State

This is Hoiberg's second transfer from Marquette alone in the last calendar year. So disappointed in the media for continuing to kiss this guys backside.
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I really have no respect for him or that program.
 


EG#9 said:
Deonte Burton to......where else but Iowa State

This is Hoiberg's second transfer from Marquette alone in the last calendar year. So disappointed in the media for continuing to kiss this guys backside.
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Fred takes these castoffs and makes a top 25 team out of them. How can you badmouth the guy?
 

GameDay said:
I really have no respect for him or that program.
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I don't get this comment at all. Is it because he has a number of transfers on his team? So what - we have three in our starting lineup alone. To pretend that the transfer game isn't an integral part of recruiting in today's college basketball environment is foolish.
 


JC transfers are definitely different than Fred's transfers. But I get what you are saying. Fred found a niche and it works, good for him. I do think he plays this "nice guy" character and is actually kind of shady. Obviously just my opinion without any real evidence, except for the cast of characters he's pulling to Ames.
 

Urbandale said:
I don't get this comment at all. Is it because he has a number of transfers on his team? So what - we have three in our starting lineup alone. To pretend that the transfer game isn't an integral part of recruiting in today's college basketball environment is foolish.
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I don't think D1 to D1 transfers should be "integral," I think it's a seedy part of the game, and Iowa State has become the king of seediness under Hoiberg. He has this squeeky clean image but his actions bespeak shadiness and doing anything just to win. Taking multiple D1 transfers every year is completely different from filling out a class with a juco guy or taking an occasional transfer who wants to go home. Iowa State's transfer list is filled with mercenaries and bad actors, and the sheer numbers are just staggering even in the context of today's epidemic.

I don't like what Iowa State is doing and how Hoiberg has built his team. I'm glad when they lose. Just my opinion but it's a very strong one and I think shared by many.
 

I don't mind what ISU is doing because its not really any morally different from anyone else. All these schools are using these kids to sell tickets and merchandise. Every coach is promising the world to every player no matter what. Hoiberg knows he's not going to get a bunch of blue chip 18 year olds to come to Iowa City but he knows these transfers are kids that already went to their first choice. Now they want to play and salvage their careers and he's able to fit them in quickly. I don't have a big problem with it. Also think of how much travel time and money you save by picking up a transfer vs recruiting a HS kid for a year. He's trading consistency for less travel and headache
 

I like Hoiberg, and the way his teams play. Enjoyable to watch every single season. Gets his guys to play together. And it's not like he hasn't brought in quality freshmen/4-year players.

Certainly there are things we may not like about other programs -- or our favorite's team's, for that matter -- but if we allow ourselves to get all wrapped up in those shenanigans, for me that would sap away the pure enjoyment I get out of college basketball. There's a lot of seedy stuff going on in major-college sports (the Rashad Vaughns/handlers of the world come to mind), but when those kind of things pop up try to remind myself there still are a lot more good people/human beings involved in college athletics than bad.

Gut tells me Hoiberg is a quality guy who has chosen an unconventional way to build a highly successful DI basketball program. Clearly, it's working. Not the way I'd go about it, but that doesn't make him a bad dude.
 

Future Marquette transfer Henry Ellenson plays in New Richmond tonight at 7:30 if anyone wants to make a short trip across the border.
 



Someone starts a Marquette thread and you guy are talking about non-Marquette stuff. C'mon, now.

Minnesconsin fan said:
Future Marquette transfer Henry Ellenson plays in New Richmond tonight at 7:30 if anyone wants to make a short trip across the border.
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40 points for Henry tonight in a relatively easy win. Had 36 through 3, got to rest up in the final quarter. Wally and the whole fam in attendance.
 

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