Marcus has lots of Cory tid-bits, drawing praise from pro scouts

BleedGopher

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 11, 2008
Messages
61,972
Reaction score
18,166
Points
113
per Marcus:

Devoe Joseph to watch his brother in All-American game
By Marcus Fuller on March 31, 2010

Gophers target and Findlay Prep (Nev.) senior point guard Cory Joseph said his brother, Devoe, would be in the crowd to watch him play tonight in the McDonald's All-American game at Value City Arena in Columbus, Ohio.

It was a dream for each of them to play in the game, but it never could become possible until Cory left their home in Canada to play high school basketball in the U.S. They both played together at Pickering High School in Ontario. But Devoe finished his career there before signing with the University of Minnesota in 2008.

"When (Cory) told me he wanted to do that this year, I just told him to go after it," said Devoe, the Gophers sophomore guard, a month ago. "I knew he was talented enough."

Devoe helped his younger brother develop his long-range jumper growing up, but Cory said he might be the better shooter right now.

Cory proved himself by winning the McDonald's three-point shooting contest Monday night. I told him Tuesday that he needed to settle things in a shootout with Devoe.

"I wish we could," the younger Joseph said before a McDonald's practice Tuesday. "Maybe after this is all done."

Despite both growing up in Canada, Devoe and Cory both watched the McDonald's All-American game on television every year starting from a young age.

"It's a great event," Devoe said. "Look at all of the NBA players that came from it. ... I really wanted to watch what the high school basketball players in the state were playing like. I wanted to know the popular faces and the popular names."

-- Cory is in no rush to decide on a college. He plans to wait until after the ESPN Rise National High School Invitational that runs Thursday through Saturday in Baltimore and after the Hoop Summit on April 10 in Portland. That leaves him four days until the start of the late signing period April 14. He will choose among Minnesota, Texas, Villanova, Connecticut and Nevada-Las Vegas.

-- ESPN.com recruiting analyst Reggie Rankin said NBA evaluators mentioned Cory as one of the players they have had their eyes on among the McDonald's All-Americans. Rankin wrote that Cory was "drawing pro praise for his all-around ability."

-- The Big Ten is already going to have a lot of talent returning next season, but there will be even more incoming future stars. If Cory signs with the Gophers, he would give the Big Ten five McDonald's All-Americans next season, including Ohio State's Jared Sullinger and Deshaun Thomas, Illinois' Jereme Richmond and Michigan State's Keith Appling. Last year, the Big Ten had zero incoming McDonald's players. There were two McDonald's players (William Buford and B.J. Mullens) who went to Ohio State in 2008. But Mullens left for the NBA after a year. There were also two McDonald's players in 2007 that went to Ohio State (Kosta Koufos) and Indiana (Eric Gordon), but they both left after their freshman season, as well.

-- Joining Cory Joseph on the McDonald's team is fellow Canadian Tristan Thompson, who also plays for Findlay Prep. Thompson and Joseph are part of what could be a bright future for Canadian basketball.

Canada's senior national team coach Leo Rautins, who played with the Gophers for one season in 1979, said he is excited to hopefully have Thompson and the Joseph brothers training with the senior national team and playing for the junior team this summer. Brewster Academy (N.H.) center Mo Walker, who is also considering the Gophers, is another candidate to join that group.

"Obviously, Cory played with the junior team last summer, so we got a real good look at him," Rautins said. "This summer, I would like to see them (Devoe and Cory) on that team."

"For someone like Cory going into college, it gets you ready for the physical aspect and the disciplined aspect of it. For a guy like Devoe, it's a great complement to what you're already doing in college. Sometimes it helps you expand what you do and refine what you do a little bit."

Rautins said he was disappointed that Devoe wasn't able to work out with the national team last summer. Out of high school in 2008, Devoe actually tried out for the national team, because it needed more depth at point guard.

"Honestly, I was a little confused about it myself," Rautins said. "Tubby seemed real positive about him playing. I was told there were some academic issues. I wasn't sure exactly why, but I'm hoping he gets that opportunity to come out and play this time. For example, we had Robert Sacre from Gonzaga play center for (the junior team). He went to Spain and had a real good couple weeks. I think that helped (Sacre) out a lot. I wanted Devoe to be on the team with him. Some of the players on that team ended up playing on the senior team, too."

Devoe really helped his development by switching to point guard after starter Al Nolen became academically ineligible for the second semester, Rautins said.

"I think that's where he has to ultimately end up because of his size (6 feet 3)," said Rautins, who is a Toronto Raptors radio analyst. "I've been following him. I've been following Cory. I talk to his mom a little bit about him going through the process with colleges and everything. He's a tremendous player. He's got great quickness. He can really get the ball up and down the floor, and he's a great competitor."

Rautins has been looking for a point guard on the national team, which has been lacking consistency at the position since countryman Steve Nash retired from international competition. He has two potential replacements in the same family with the Joseph brothers. He also has St. Benedicts High School (N.J.) junior Myck Kabongo, a Texas recruit. Another future star could be Toronto area junior Kevin Pangos, who is being compared to Nash. Pangos, who played a bit with the national team at 16 years old, was the youngest to do that since Rautins.

"I'm sure both the Josephs know of (Pangos), he said. "We've got a nice crop of very young kids coming up, and it's exciting."

http://blogs.twincities.com/gophers/2010/03/devoe-joseph-to-watch-his-brot.html

Go Gophers!!
 

I'm putting myself on Corey Joseph timeout. No more reading CJ articles as I don't think he's coming here.
 



GOTR

I like our chances.

I agree!!

We offer what no other team can offer. He can play two years of college ball under a HOF coach WITH his brother ! He will never have the opportunity again.

That some folks dismiss that plus so easily strikes me as silly.

Yes, an 18 year old can make a decision based on who knows what but a brother , a mother, and family can be one heck of a huge factor for most kids.

I like our chances. We have a chance.

:clap::clap::clap:
 


Devoe helped his younger brother develop his long-range jumper growing up, but Cory said he might be the better shooter right now.

Cory proved himself by winning the McDonald's three-point shooting contest Monday night. I told him Tuesday that he needed to settle things in a shootout with Devoe.

"I wish we could," the younger Joseph said before a McDonald's practice Tuesday. "Maybe after this is all done."

Hmmm, I know a place where they could do this on a daily basis for two years LOL
 


What are your thoughts on Cory Joseph?

Put it this way: The only time anyone mentions MN as a real possibility for CJ is on Gopher boards. The recruiting writers only mention MN when they talk about his top 5 and the fact that his brother is here, but they all seem to think its Texas with Nova in 2nd. On other boards everyone names Texas as the leader with Nova and UConn in the hunt too. Only MN fans think MN is a strong possibility at this point. I'd give us a 20% chance right now. That said, it seems that Cory himself has been pretty tight lipped about the whole thing so there's the possibility that this is all just guess work. Personally I think he goes to Texas if his only concern is going to the NBA in a year or 2. Barnes has produced NBA players but has absolutely proven that he can't coach a team as he's had some of the most talented players over the past 5 years with 0 to show for it. I think MN is a unique opportunity for the kid but who knows if he cares about it.

- He and his brother can play side by side for a potential top 15 team. When is the last time 2 brothers started together in the backcourt for any team, much less a good one?
- Add the fact that they're Canadian and they'll become a headline waiting to happen, giving him plenty of exposure, and MN will probably become all of Canada's favorite CBB team.
- Also remember that he could be the missing piece for this team to become a top 10 caliber team for the next 2 years at least and there's a lot to like.
- Additionally his mom loves Tubby, his brother seems to really like it here, the team seemed to be pretty close and with the guy who appeared to outsiders to be the main chemistry issue gone, that could be the case next year too.

All that said I'm not getting my hopes up. Still, we long suffering MN fans are due some luck in the form of White, Mbakwe, Nolen and Joseph in 2010-11
 

When is the last time 2 brothers started together in the backcourt for any team, much less a good one?

The last brother duo on a good team that I recall is the Crispin brothers at Penn State. They led PSU to that improbable Sweet 16 run and received a TON of press as a result of their family connection. It would be fun to duplicate that.

Go Gophers!!
 



:D
Put it this way: The only time anyone mentions MN as a real possibility for CJ is on Gopher boards. The recruiting writers only mention MN when they talk about his top 5 and the fact that his brother is here, but they all seem to think its Texas with Nova in 2nd. On other boards everyone names Texas as the leader with Nova and UConn in the hunt too. Only MN fans think MN is a strong possibility at this point. I'd give us a 20% chance right now. That said, it seems that Cory himself has been pretty tight lipped about the whole thing so there's the possibility that this is all just guess work. Personally I think he goes to Texas if his only concern is going to the NBA in a year or 2. Barnes has produced NBA players but has absolutely proven that he can't coach a team as he's had some of the most talented players over the past 5 years with 0 to show for it. I think MN is a unique opportunity for the kid but who knows if he cares about it.

- He and his brother can play side by side for a potential top 15 team. When is the last time 2 brothers started together in the backcourt for any team, much less a good one?
- Add the fact that they're Canadian and they'll become a headline waiting to happen, giving him plenty of exposure, and MN will probably become all of Canada's favorite CBB team.
- Also remember that he could be the missing piece for this team to become a top 10 caliber team for the next 2 years at least and there's a lot to like.
- Additionally his mom loves Tubby, his brother seems to really like it here, the team seemed to be pretty close and with the guy who appeared to outsiders to be the main chemistry issue gone, that could be the case next year too.

All that said I'm not getting my hopes up. Still, we long suffering MN fans are due some luck in the form of White, Mbakwe, Nolen and Joseph in 2010-11

I tend to agree with you on all counts. I was just trying to get you to spell his name right though. :D
 

Put it this way: The only time anyone mentions MN as a real possibility for CJ is on Gopher boards. The recruiting writers only mention MN when they talk about his top 5 and the fact that his brother is here, but they all seem to think its Texas with Nova in 2nd. On other boards everyone names Texas as the leader with Nova and UConn in the hunt too. Only MN fans think MN is a strong possibility at this point. I'd give us a 20% chance right now. That said, it seems that Cory himself has been pretty tight lipped about the whole thing so there's the possibility that this is all just guess work. Personally I think he goes to Texas if his only concern is going to the NBA in a year or 2. Barnes has produced NBA players but has absolutely proven that he can't coach a team as he's had some of the most talented players over the past 5 years with 0 to show for it. I think MN is a unique opportunity for the kid but who knows if he cares about it.

- He and his brother can play side by side for a potential top 15 team. When is the last time 2 brothers started together in the backcourt for any team, much less a good one?
- Add the fact that they're Canadian and they'll become a headline waiting to happen, giving him plenty of exposure, and MN will probably become all of Canada's favorite CBB team.
- Also remember that he could be the missing piece for this team to become a top 10 caliber team for the next 2 years at least and there's a lot to like.
- Additionally his mom loves Tubby, his brother seems to really like it here, the team seemed to be pretty close and with the guy who appeared to outsiders to be the main chemistry issue gone, that could be the case next year too.

All that said I'm not getting my hopes up. Still, we long suffering MN fans are due some luck in the form of White, Mbakwe, Nolen and Joseph in 2010-11

Not so - ESPN Scouts Inc has had Cory Joseph listing Gophers first for a long time now.
 

Who cares what any recruiting writer has to say or any other message boards have to say? You mean the fact that Texas fans think he's coming to Texas or UConn fans think he's coming to UConn is more valid than Minnesota fans thinking he's coming to Minnesota? I'll be honest, I don't understand this reasoning at all. Cory has been entirely tight-lipped about the entire situation, much like his brother was, meaning no one can guess one way or the other. Everything else is guesswork.

All things considered, you can bet the Gophers are still very much in play. If Walker commits (and I think he will), it will become even more so. This situation is not nearly as cut-and-dry as folks think it is imo.
 

Quite a bit of opinion/speculation that you're talking about, not facts.

Put it this way: The only time anyone mentions MN as a real possibility for CJ is on Gopher boards. The recruiting writers only mention MN when they talk about his top 5 and the fact that his brother is here, but they all seem to think its Texas with Nova in 2nd. On other boards everyone names Texas as the leader with Nova and UConn in the hunt too. Only MN fans think MN is a strong possibility at this point. I'd give us a 20% chance right now. That said, it seems that Cory himself has been pretty tight lipped about the whole thing so there's the possibility that this is all just guess work. Personally I think he goes to Texas if his only concern is going to the NBA in a year or 2. Barnes has produced NBA players but has absolutely proven that he can't coach a team as he's had some of the most talented players over the past 5 years with 0 to show for it. I think MN is a unique opportunity for the kid but who knows if he cares about it.

- He and his brother can play side by side for a potential top 15 team. When is the last time 2 brothers started together in the backcourt for any team, much less a good one?
- Add the fact that they're Canadian and they'll become a headline waiting to happen, giving him plenty of exposure, and MN will probably become all of Canada's favorite CBB team.
- Also remember that he could be the missing piece for this team to become a top 10 caliber team for the next 2 years at least and there's a lot to like.
- Additionally his mom loves Tubby, his brother seems to really like it here, the team seemed to be pretty close and with the guy who appeared to outsiders to be the main chemistry issue gone, that could be the case next year too.

All that said I'm not getting my hopes up. Still, we long suffering MN fans are due some luck in the form of White, Mbakwe, Nolen and Joseph in 2010-11
 



The last brother duo on a good team that I recall is the Crispin brothers at Penn State. They led PSU to that improbable Sweet 16 run and received a TON of press as a result of their family connection. It would be fun to duplicate that.

Go Gophers!!

What about the Lopez brothers at Stanford?? They had a pretty solid record together...
 

The last brother duo on a good team that I recall is the Crispin brothers at Penn State. They led PSU to that improbable Sweet 16 run and received a TON of press as a result of their family connection. It would be fun to duplicate that.

Go Gophers!!

What about the Morris Twins for KU. Not in the backcourt, but still a pretty good brother duo for a great team.
 

Plumlee brothers? But they aren't backcourt players as Ole suggested. Not really convinced they're any good either, serviceable, yes.
 

Quite a bit of opinion/speculation that you're talking about, not facts.

Funny I don't see where I said any of it was fact. There's no such thing as 'fact' when discussing recruiting, and I clearly said it may all be guesswork. I was asked my opinion and gae it. You are free to not read it but to criticize it for being an opinion when that's what itwas meant to be is just stupid.
 



Who cares what any recruiting writer has to say or any other message boards have to say? You mean the fact that Texas fans think he's coming to Texas or UConn fans think he's coming to UConn is more valid than Minnesota fans thinking he's coming to Minnesota? I'll be honest, I don't understand this reasoning at all. Cory has been entirely tight-lipped about the entire situation, much like his brother was, meaning no one can guess one way or the other. Everything else is guesswork.

All things considered, you can bet the Gophers are still very much in play. If Walker commits (and I think he will), it will become even more so. This situation is not nearly as cut-and-dry as folks think it is imo.

If that was the case Id agree but pretty much anyone that isn't a MN fan is saying Joseph to Texas. As I said it's not fact and may mean nothing but after following CFB and CBB recruiting very closely the last few years Ive found that when we're the only ones thinking we have a shot, we're almost always off base.
 

False. They're actually pretty accurate. One of the best.

NOTE ESPN and Scouts Inc are DIFFERENT.

Not from what Ive seen. They specialize on scouting, not keeping tabs of leaders for every prospect. Scounts Inc is the best site for evaluations, Rivals is best for updates
 

Not from what Ive seen. They specialize on scouting, not keeping tabs of leaders for every prospect. Scounts Inc is the best site for evaluations, Rivals is best for updates

I've followed recruiting avidly since 1965. Rivals is a joke. Scouts Inc >>> Rivals.
 


Not from what Ive seen. They specialize on scouting, not keeping tabs of leaders for every prospect. Scounts Inc is the best site for evaluations, Rivals is best for updates

It's best not to bring up Rivals here. Apparently Jerry Meyer slept with Friend of Tubby's daughter. Kind of a sensitive subject.
 

If that was the case Id agree but pretty much anyone that isn't a MN fan is saying Joseph to Texas. As I said it's not fact and may mean nothing but after following CFB and CBB recruiting very closely the last few years Ive found that when we're the only ones thinking we have a shot, we're almost always off base.

I'd be interested in finding out which sites these are. What I've seen with a lot of recruiting stuff is that popularity plays a big part in it when these sites are assessing which school a kid is going to. As such, Texas, UConn and Villanova are always going to be more popular than, say, Minnesota or Nevada-Las Vegas (Cory's other two finalists). As such, I put little stock in sites that are full of "so and so said that so and so talked with another so and so, therefore, said kid is going to this school" which is what a lot those sites are based on.

You could very well be right. I would simply caution against thinking that just because there is internet chatter saying something, it doesn't give it validity.
 


Put it this way: The only time anyone mentions MN as a real possibility for CJ is on Gopher boards. The recruiting writers only mention MN when they talk about his top 5 and the fact that his brother is here, but they all seem to think its Texas with Nova in 2nd. On other boards everyone names Texas as the leader with Nova and UConn in the hunt too. Only MN fans think MN is a strong possibility at this point. I'd give us a 20% chance right now. That said, it seems that Cory himself has been pretty tight lipped about the whole thing so there's the possibility that this is all just guess work. Personally I think he goes to Texas if his only concern is going to the NBA in a year or 2. Barnes has produced NBA players but has absolutely proven that he can't coach a team as he's had some of the most talented players over the past 5 years with 0 to show for it. I think MN is a unique opportunity for the kid but who knows if he cares about it.

- He and his brother can play side by side for a potential top 15 team. When is the last time 2 brothers started together in the backcourt for any team, much less a good one?
- Add the fact that they're Canadian and they'll become a headline waiting to happen, giving him plenty of exposure, and MN will probably become all of Canada's favorite CBB team.
- Also remember that he could be the missing piece for this team to become a top 10 caliber team for the next 2 years at least and there's a lot to like.
- Additionally his mom loves Tubby, his brother seems to really like it here, the team seemed to be pretty close and with the guy who appeared to outsiders to be the main chemistry issue gone, that could be the case next year too.

All that said I'm not getting my hopes up. Still, we long suffering MN fans are due some luck in the form of White, Mbakwe, Nolen and Joseph in 2010-11

By all accounts, CJ has played it pretty close to the vest on this and it seems highly likely that nobody, not even CJ, knows where he's going yet or leaning beyond the list he has it pared down to. Therefore, who would expect the national services to "think" he was coming to Minnesota? Heck, our own beat reporters in State liken the U of M to some kind of CBB version of a Siberian Gulag. Hardly expect some internet clown to think much more of Minny.
 







Top Bottom