Lucky? Really?

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B1G said:
You just made my point for me. It's a fumble, not a muffed backwards pass, because the throw backwards isn't considered a pass, it's considered a run. Therefore the player lost possession by an act other than passing. He fumbled a backwards throw. The very rulebook definition of a fumble. To muff it means the ball has already been fumbled and someone tries unsuccessfully to pick it up.
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I think it's pretty much in a category with a muffed punt because it cannot be returned like a fumble if the defense recovers it. Unless the rules have changed, Hill can only get possession of a backwards pass and cannot advance the ball.
 


50PoundHead said:
I think it's pretty much in a category with a muffed punt because it cannot be returned like a fumble if the defense recovers it. Unless the rules have changed, Hill can only get possession of a backwards pass and cannot advance the ball.
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That's not the case anymore, Hill could've taken that thing all the way to the end zone. In fact, he returned it 21 yards according to the official game play-by-play, which is below.

Coleman, Tevin rush for loss of 14 yards to the MINN23, fumble by Coleman, Tevin recovered by MINN Hill, Aaron at MINN23, Hill, Aaron for 21 yards to the MINN44 (Coleman, Tevin).
 

B1G said:
That's not the case anymore, Hill could've taken that thing all the way to the end zone. In fact, he returned it 21 yards according to the official game play-by-play, which is below.

Coleman, Tevin rush for loss of 14 yards to the MINN23, fumble by Coleman, Tevin recovered by MINN Hill, Aaron at MINN23, Hill, Aaron for 21 yards to the MINN44 (Coleman, Tevin).
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This time B1G is correct. The recovery of a loose ball (fumble,etc) can be advanced by either team. The recovery of a muffed punt gives the kicking team possession at the point of recovery. the same rule applies to an onside kick in a kick off, as long as the kick on a kick off travels the required 10 yards.
 


who really cares if it's luck or not. I can't believe that this discussion is still going on.......The Gophers won. This is a great year. Enjoy the ride and quit nitpicking about that one play..... when we beat Wisky on a similar play are you going to call that luck too?? C'mon guys....Go Gophers.............
 

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