Kristian Williams Commits to Minnesota...

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Pompous Elitist said:
Yeah, to me that photo is unintentionally hilarious with the throne and the Kermit green outfit but as They say it’s what the kids like. Many of the design elements of the Oregon facilities are pretty awesome however, in that northwestern US way and I wish the MN design team had gone more in that direction. Obviously different strokes for different folks. We’re in the neighborhood of Oregon.
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Correct. The Gophers weren't going to compete with Phil Knight cash, but our facilities aren't rump roast compared to what Oregon has anymore. The Ducks facilities are like their uniforms.....shiny. Some recruits are going to be drawn in by that, some won't. As far as equipment, nutrition, training space....I doubt that Oregon is really that much more advanced. Wipe away all the superficial nonsense and I bet our facilities match up pretty close. I personally don't want us to have one of those lame ass thrones.
 

stocker08 said:
Correct. The Gophers weren't going to compete with Phil Knight cash, but our facilities aren't rump roast compared to what Oregon has anymore. The Ducks facilities are like their uniforms.....shiny. Some recruits are going to be drawn in by that, some won't. As far as equipment, nutrition, training space....I doubt that Oregon is really that much more advanced. Wipe away all the superficial nonsense and I bet our facilities match up pretty close. I personally don't want us to have one of those lame ass thrones.
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We’re in the neighborhood.


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bonin21 said:
Watch this and tell me we compare to Oregon lmao
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Looks like a bad Flash Gordon movie.
If you can look past the really fancy Foot Locker, our facilities can compete now if the kids like what the coach is selling.
 

Peacock Culture - some want the most garish cars, clothing, housing they can possibly find to sometimes humorous levels. There are differences in theme but not really in practice across different socioeconomic groups. For example, your aspirational average southern Californian will feel good about showing off in an expensive panzerwagen M/AMG when in reality a similar (or better) driving experience and fun can be found in your run of the mill late model Camaro or Mustang at half the cost, but that’s not really the point of status signaling. We are funny animals.
 

For kids that grow up not having much, having nice things is a very good feeling.
 


bonin21 said:
For kids that grow up not having much, having nice things is a very good feeling.
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A kid isn't going to go half across the country to spend four years of his life there just because they have a neat locker room and cool stuff to look at. You can practice in a pole barn, these facilities are so overrated for recruiting. If he picks Oregon over Minnesota it isn't because they have uniforms and a throne.
 

That Oregon video is a joke. What a clown show full of smoke and mirrors. Obviously, the Nike money is being used to promote Nike, not the school, academics, student development, nutrition, career development, etc...


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alchemy2u said:
That Oregon video is a joke. What a clown show full of smoke and mirrors. Obviously, the Nike money is being used to promote Nike, not the school, academics, student development, nutrition, career development, etc...


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I agree 100%. Where’s the substance?
 

They also just built a $40 million academic center as well for its student athletes.

 



btowngopher said:
A kid isn't going to go half across the country to spend four years of his life there just because they have a neat locker room and cool stuff to look at. You can practice in a pole barn, these facilities are so overrated for recruiting. If he picks Oregon over Minnesota it isn't because they have uniforms and a throne.
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It's not the #1 factor but it certainly helps.
 

btowngopher said:
A kid isn't going to go half across the country to spend four years of his life there just because they have a neat locker room and cool stuff to look at. You can practice in a pole barn, these facilities are so overrated for recruiting. If he picks Oregon over Minnesota it isn't because they have uniforms and a throne.
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We could’ve stayed in the Metrodome!!!
 





alchemy2u said:
That Oregon video is a joke. What a clown show full of smoke and mirrors. Obviously, the Nike money is being used to promote Nike, not the school, academics, student development, nutrition, career development, etc...


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My favorite part was from the chap with the great vocabulary at around the 10:22 mark - “Gotta have the “Just Do It” up there…keep everything in perspective around here”. That made me chuckle a bit.
 

btowngopher said:
A kid isn't going to go half across the country to spend four years of his life there just because they have a neat locker room and cool stuff to look at. You can practice in a pole barn, these facilities are so overrated for recruiting. If he picks Oregon over Minnesota it isn't because they have uniforms and a throne.
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You clearly do not spend much time around teenagers.
 


Is there any other deadline beyond the traditional signing day for when we will know for sure about Williams? Is he going to do one of those "pick a hat from the table in front of me" dog and pony shows? I take a look at this thread every time it jumps to the top of the list hoping to see things have become solid regarding his existing committment.
 

Schnauzer said:
Is there any other deadline beyond the traditional signing day for when we will know for sure about Williams? Is he going to do one of those "pick a hat from the table in front of me" dog and pony shows? I take a look at this thread every time it jumps to the top of the list hoping to see things have become solid regarding his existing committment.
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Unfortunately with the early signing period concluded no one on this forum will rest easy about Kristian until the February signing day (hopefully). That will be the first day that anything can be made of his verbal commitment.
 

Schnauzer said:
Is there any other deadline beyond the traditional signing day for when we will know for sure about Williams? Is he going to do one of those "pick a hat from the table in front of me" dog and pony shows? I take a look at this thread every time it jumps to the top of the list hoping to see things have become solid regarding his existing committment.
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I belive he could come to school late summer and play if he wanted provided he's admitted to the school.
 





Everybody on here trashing Oregon's facilities is really out of touch with how teenager minds work these days. Those facilities are premium and that is the first thing kids look for. Recruits want the flashy facilities, want to see themselves in dope pictures with the flashy uniforms that they can put on their instagram. They want to be able to chill in the players lounge in the leather couches & play fortnite, walk across the room & grab a shake from the supplied fridge. They wanna keep up with the sneakerheads rocking the most obscure jordan sneakers possible.

Facilities/goodies/perks/frills are also a reflection of how the athletic department values the athletes as well. When the athletic department doesn't wanna spend money to upgrade the old crappy facilities, the athletes don't feel as valued. They want to feel like the big man on campus.

Oregon understands all of this very well and was one of the first programs to really embrace this philosophy. Clearly it worked as they raised themselves out of mediocrity fairly quickly to become one of the best college sports brands in the country.

If you want to build a brand, you need to evolve along with the current generation. Old school recruiting is not going to cut it anymore if you want to get over the top
 

A nonymous said:
Everybody on here trashing Oregon's facilities is really out of touch with how teenager minds work these days. Those facilities are premium and that is the first thing kids look for. Recruits want the flashy facilities, want to see themselves in dope pictures with the flashy uniforms that they can put on their instagram. They want to be able to chill in the players lounge in the leather couches & play fortnite, walk across the room & grab a shake from the supplied fridge. They wanna keep up with the sneakerheads rocking the most obscure jordan sneakers possible.

Facilities/goodies/perks/frills are also a reflection of how the athletic department values the athletes as well. When the athletic department doesn't wanna spend money to upgrade the old crappy facilities, the athletes don't feel as valued. They want to feel like the big man on campus.

Oregon understands all of this very well and was one of the first programs to really embrace this philosophy. Clearly it worked as they raised themselves out of mediocrity fairly quickly to become one of the best college sports brands in the country.

If you want to build a brand, you need to evolve along with the current generation. Old school recruiting is not going to cut it anymore if you want to get over the top
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Little known story but it all started with Phil Knight putting plastic duck decoys in the hallways. Kids loved it.
 

#2Gopher said:
I disagree. I'm hearing people say Row The Boat in excitement when things are going well. I never heard Golden Ticket or Brick by Brick unless it was a post of some sort.
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The reference is to Williams signing his LOI. Saying Williams will Row The Boat or some other corny Fleckism doesn't have the same ring to it. Just a personal preference.
 

A nonymous said:
Everybody on here trashing Oregon's facilities is really out of touch with how teenager minds work these days. Those facilities are premium and that is the first thing kids look for. Recruits want the flashy facilities, want to see themselves in dope pictures with the flashy uniforms that they can put on their instagram. They want to be able to chill in the players lounge in the leather couches & play fortnite, walk across the room & grab a shake from the supplied fridge. They wanna keep up with the sneakerheads rocking the most obscure jordan sneakers possible.

Facilities/goodies/perks/frills are also a reflection of how the athletic department values the athletes as well. When the athletic department doesn't wanna spend money to upgrade the old crappy facilities, the athletes don't feel as valued. They want to feel like the big man on campus.

Oregon understands all of this very well and was one of the first programs to really embrace this philosophy. Clearly it worked as they raised themselves out of mediocrity fairly quickly to become one of the best college sports brands in the country.

If you want to build a brand, you need to evolve along with the current generation. Old school recruiting is not going to cut it anymore if you want to get over the top
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I work with teenagers and while many of them want things like this, a surprising number of them are very serious about their futures and life. I am sure the flashy stuff sells to some but there are plenty out there for whom the idea of becoming a man and a good human being and a contributor and actually learning in school is appealing and I know a lot of them actually care a lot about what their parents think. Fleck doesn't need to sell them all but we will see if Mr. Williams wants cool shoes or a Social, Academic, Spiritual and Athletic education.
 

CoMn said:
I work with teenagers and while many of them want things like this, a surprising number of them are very serious about their futures and life. I am sure the flashy stuff sells to some but there are plenty out there for whom the idea of becoming a man and a good human being and a contributor and actually learning in school is appealing and I know a lot of them actually care a lot about what their parents think. Fleck doesn't need to sell them all but we will see if Mr. Williams wants cool shoes or a Social, Academic, Spiritual and Athletic education.
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Guessing the teenagers you're working with have very different backgrounds and aspirations overall than the average of a top 300 college football recruit. Football and sports in general have a culture of swagger. If you don't have confidence you won't get anywhere. Those PE Jordans = unreal swag

And yes there will be some kids that care a lot about the education, but don't lose sight of the forest for the trees.
 

CoMn said:
I work with teenagers and while many of them want things like this, a surprising number of them are very serious about their futures and life. I am sure the flashy stuff sells to some but there are plenty out there for whom the idea of becoming a man and a good human being and a contributor and actually learning in school is appealing and I know a lot of them actually care a lot about what their parents think. Fleck doesn't need to sell them all but we will see if Mr. Williams wants cool shoes or a Social, Academic, Spiritual and Athletic education.
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yeah, because Minnesota is the only school you can get that.
 

bonin21 said:
Guessing the teenagers you're working with have very different backgrounds and aspirations overall than the average of a top 300 college football recruit. Football and sports in general have a culture of swagger. If you don't have confidence you won't get anywhere. Those PE Jordans = unreal swag

And yes there will be some kids that care a lot about the education, but don't lose sight of the forest for the trees.
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Don’t assume that all college athletes are stupid, many know that only a few of their teammates will ever make a living playing sports. The Oregon glitz is the over the top gimmick to lure in players.


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