BleedGopher
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Wasn't that the exact line in "A Star is Born"?I don't remember who said it or the exact quote but it was something to the effect that Kris didn't invent any words, he just found ways to arrange them that nobody else could.
Me and Bobby McGee
According to Janis, they "balled" together.He dated Janis Joplin and wrote it specifically for her
According to Janis, they "balled" together.
That would definitely be a "viewer beware" type of video.Now that’s a video that would be worth viewing
That would definitely be a "viewer beware" type of video.
Man, not religious or a church goer, but this song is so good and the one I always remember him by.
That topic is addressed in this interview.I wonder if he had a fling with Barbara Streisand when filming A Star is Born?
He wasn't dating her. Bobby Mc Kee was Billy Sherill's secretary and Billy liked the sound of her name and asked Kris to write a song using the name. Kris apparently couldn't read Billy's handwriting and it became Bobby McGee.He dated Janis Joplin and wrote it specifically for her
He wasn't dating her. Bobby Mc Kee was Billy Sherill's secretary and Billy liked the sound of her name and asked Kris to write a song using the name. Kris apparently couldn't read Billy's handwriting and it became Bobby McGee.
Then you have poor judgment in your sources or at least don't have very good comprehension skills. The song was written in 1969, based in name alone, not in fact, on a pretty young secretary working for Billy Sherrills, before KK and JJ were an item. It was recorded in 1969 first by Roger Miller and then Kenny Rogers and Gorden Lightfoot in 1970. While it's true that Kris encouraged Janice to record it during their short affair in 1970, it was not written for her and in fact was written for a male voice. She recorded it later and it was not released until she dies.I’m going to trust a Taste of Country Website, numerous others ones over a poster named Swede 2; if only you were the original Swedee and not a cheap knockoff
All About Kris Kristofferson's 3 Wives, 8 Kids + Famous Girlfriends
When Kris Kristofferson married wife Lisa Meyers in 1983, he was saying "I do" for the third time.tasteofcountry.com
Kris Kristofferson and Janis Joplin's tragic, short-lived romance
The duo, who first met in the spring of 1970, were said to have fallen fast for one another while in California - and it was him who urged Janis to record a cover of her posthumous hit, Me and Bobby McGee.www.dailymail.co.uk
I said he dated her and wrote the song specifically for her.Then you have poor judgment in your sources or at least don't have very good comprehension skills. The song was written in 1969, based in name alone, not in fact, on a pretty young secretary working for Billy Sherrills, before KK and JJ were an item. It was recorded in 1969 first by Roger Miller and then Kenny Rogers and Gorden Lightfoot in 1970. While it's true that Kris encouraged Janice to record it during their short affair in 1970, it was not written for her and in fact was written for a male voice. She recorded it later and it was not released until she dies.
You'll note nowhere in your source does it say the song was written for Janice. But while it was not Kris' intention at the time of writing, it was certainly the intention of Providence, as of course it was JJ'S version that would gain purchase with the listening public, and not Roger's or Kenny's or Gordan's.
I never denied he dated her. Your assertion was that he was dating her and wrote the song for Janis. I replied that he wasn't "dating her" (my exact words, present tense, as in when he wrote the song. Compare and contrast to "He didn't date her" as an absolute statement and which I did not use). I suppose I erred in assuming you meant that he wrote the song while dating her when your meaning could have meant that he wrote the song for JJ after their affair ended. But neither case is true.I said he dated her and wrote the song specifically for her.
He did date her; you said he wasn’t dating her. I was right and you were incorrect regarding this point.
I conflated Kris encouraging Janis to record the song, with writing it specifically for her. This part of my assertion was incorrect. I have no problem admitting when I was wrong, do you?
Those were two separate points contained in one sentence.
Also, I provided third party attestation regarding them dating; where’s your proof regarding the origin of the song? Funny that you make a cute quip, when you fail to provide external sources.
I’m not saying you’re pulling this out of your backside, but I was enough of a gentleman to provide proof of their fling, so why wouldn’t you reciprocate ?
I never denied he dated her. Your assertion was that he was dating her and wrote the song for Janis. I replied that he wasn't "dating her" (my exact words, present tense, as in when he wrote the song. Compare and contrast to "He didn't date her" as an absolute statement and which I did not use). I suppose I erred in assuming you meant that he wrote the song while dating her when your meaning could have meant that he wrote the song for JJ after their affair ended. But neither case is true.
As for proof, I suppose you could have fact checked my assertion. You did so in the first instance, took the first bit that didn't prove your point and were frankly a dick about it, and then took umbrage when you got a dickhead response. I apologize for getting down in the mire with you.
My proof otherwise? I'm a fan of country music, KK's era in particular and a fan of history. My proof is my memory from reading, listening and documentaries are my source. My source is certainly impeachable, and easily enough for one to fact check with not much diligence needed at all. Here's one source for instance:
The real person behind Janis Joplin’s hit ‘Me and Bobby McGee’ - Far Out Magazine
The real person behind Janis Joplin's hit 'Me and Bobby McGee', the song was originally written by Kris Kristofferson and was based on a real person.faroutmagazine.co.uk
And, as it turns out, my memory isn't quite as impeccable as I'd thought. It wasn't producer Billy Sherrills Bobby McKee worked for but prolific Nashville songwriter Boudleaux Bryant. I believe in Ken Burn's "Country Music" documentary, it is Billy Sherrills who tells the story of the song's origin. In any event, your original assertion is still incorrect. KK did not write "Bobby McGee" for JJ, did not do so while they were copulating or after.
Appreciate the post and information on the song’s origin, I didn’t feel I needed to research or provide it, as you introduced it and not me yo the discourse. I won’t rehash the other points, as we’ve already covered it.I never denied he dated her. Your assertion was that he was dating her and wrote the song for Janis. I replied that he wasn't "dating her" (my exact words, present tense, as in when he wrote the song. Compare and contrast to "He didn't date her" as an absolute statement and which I did not use). I suppose I erred in assuming you meant that he wrote the song while dating her when your meaning could have meant that he wrote the song for JJ after their affair ended. But neither case is true.
As for proof, I suppose you could have fact checked my assertion. You did so in the first instance, took the first bit that didn't prove your point and were frankly a dick about it, and then took umbrage when you got a dickhead response. I apologize for getting down in the mire with you.
My proof otherwise? I'm a fan of country music, KK's era in particular and a fan of history. My proof is my memory from reading, listening and documentaries are my source. My source is certainly impeachable, and easily enough for one to fact check with not much diligence needed at all. Here's one source for instance:
The real person behind Janis Joplin’s hit ‘Me and Bobby McGee’ - Far Out Magazine
The real person behind Janis Joplin's hit 'Me and Bobby McGee', the song was originally written by Kris Kristofferson and was based on a real person.faroutmagazine.co.uk
And, as it turns out, my memory isn't quite as impeccable as I'd thought. It wasn't producer Billy Sherrills Bobby McKee worked for but prolific Nashville songwriter Boudleaux Bryant. I believe in Ken Burn's "Country Music" documentary, it is Billy Sherrills who tells the story of the song's origin. In any event, your original assertion is still incorrect. KK did not write "Bobby McGee" for JJ, did not do so while they were copulating or after.
Don't allow our natural good looks as Swedes to provide you with a false hope of mental superiority. That would be the Norwegians.Appreciate the post and information on the song’s origin, I didn’t feel I needed to research or provide it, as you introduced it and not me yo the discourse. I won’t rehash the other points, as we’ve already covered it.
I apologize for getting a bit pissy, I was hyper competitive when younger and it gets the best of me occasionally.
So you’re really Norwegian?Don't allow our natural good looks as Swedes to provide you with a false hope of mental superiority. That would be the Norwegians.
Watch your mouth!So you’re really Norwegian?