If Lucious showed up on campus and wanted to talk to Tubby, don't you think he would sit down with him?
Hoiberg isn't in the position to turn away interested players. I'm guessing Lucious is trying to show Izzo he doesn't need to be a Spartan. I doubt he leaves MSU, but if he does, all the better for the Gophers next year.
There is no way Lucious ever dons a Spartan uniform again.If Lucious showed up on campus and wanted to talk to Tubby, don't you think he would sit down with him?
Hoiberg isn't in the position to turn away interested players. I'm guessing Lucious is trying to show Izzo he doesn't need to be a Spartan. I doubt he leaves MSU, but if he does, all the better for the Gophers next year.
There is no way Tubby would take someone who was kicked off there current team , I don't care how much he might be able to help, Tubby's frustration level right now is off the charts with the problems they have had the past few years. It is funny that Korey is looking at ISU as that was the popular joke when he was suspended, but it also makes sense as he is friends with allen and went to high school with another one of there players, Garrett I believe. Fred is putting together quite the team of problem kids. I saw that Calvin Godfrey got suspended for three games, not suprised by that either, kid also has issues.
Tubby might be frustrated by the past season's problems, however he only needs to look in the mirror to see who brought some of the issues to Mpls.
Tubby might be frustrated by the past season's problems, however he only needs to look in the mirror to see who brought some of the issues to Mpls.
Mbakwe? Not his fault. Royce? NHF. Cobbs? NHF. Carter? NHF.
Walker? NHF. Nolen? NHF. Joseph? Maybe.[/QUOTE]
FOT are you saying Tubby could/should have done something differently? If so what.
Mbakwe? Not his fault. Royce? NHF. Cobbs? NHF. Carter? NHF.
Walker? NHF. Nolen? NHF. Joseph? Maybe.[/QUOTE]
FOT are you saying Tubby could/should have done something differently? If so what.
Not necessarily. The circumstances are pretty well known on the (NHF) others. I don't think we know why Joseph left, at least publicly. Some may know privately.
Yeah, because Tubby was able to get to know every aspect of these kids personalities while he was recruiting them. Let's not blame Tubby for these kids being immature.
Don't bring up Royce's transgressions in High School. Tubby had to recruit him or the whole state goes crazy.
Mbakwe? Not his fault. Royce? NHF. Cobbs? NHF. Carter? NHF.
Walker? NHF. Nolen? NHF. Joseph? Maybe.
Nothing is ever Tubby's fault.
Who is responsible for the Mens BB program at the U of MN again?
which ones had obvious character issues? just curious. royce hadnt dont anything criminally wrong or eye raising besides the whole de la salle thing.
Character issues when signing with the U of M: (only listed players who have been suspended or tansferredTubby has brought in multiple players with obvious and documented character issues.
He has gotten burned multiple times.
Read what I wrote. The "fault" or "reason" for all of those departures or injuries lies elsewhere.
Except (maybe) Joseph. The reason(s) for his departure are unknown (publicly).
Mbakwe? Not his fault. Royce? NHF. Cobbs? NHF. Carter? NHF.
Walker? NHF. Nolen? NHF. Joseph? Maybe.
Staunch Tubby believer (although not his friend). However, I remember people on GH questioning whether or not Tubby should take on both White and Mbakwe when they were recruited because of issues. If they knew about red flags, then Tubby also did or should have. He rolled the dice and I'm fine with that even though it's been frustrating. Now Johnny Gopher has indicated problems with Joseph right away so Tubby rolled the dice even though things were already happening with Devoe. That might be starting to push it if you take on two more possible problems the next year. Nolen's ineligibility has bugged me too. I know it's ultimately on Al and there were family problems, but somebody on Tubby's staff screwed up by letting it get to the point it did. You stay on top of academics and not let it get to the point of "he's got some work to do."
He's had really rotten luck and you couldn't make some of this up. "Fault" is the wrong word to use, but Tubby is responsible for most of this team because he recruited them.
No way Tubby could know about character issues with players.
Kill is saying he recruits them for a year until he know them. 85 of them. Tubby only needs to be sure of about a dozen.
But, let us remember, Tubby is NEVER responsible for any, and I mean any, problem with the tam.