DocfromDarwin
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do a spell check dude
While winning will GREATLY improve the gameday experience, it is simply never going to be a selling point for our program. You guys saw the OSU vs UW game, it was insanity the entire day there. And then the team showed up as big as the fans. I simply cannot envision that type of environment at TCF - maybe I'm all wrong, but I doubt we'll be landing Gameday anytime soon.
I think you're wrong. Michigan 2003 was insane for hours at the tailgate lot and for the pre-game. The first three quarters were pretty solid too. And that was the Dome. A sustained run of success for a couple of years would work wonders for the program and the energy surrounding it.
All that 2003 2-game stretch proved is unless we win EVERY GAME nothing drastic is going to change. We still controlled our own destiny in the B10 race with 5 games to play and at most 30K show up to the dome on 10/18.
That is the intrinsic advantage Wisconsin and Iowa have. As long as they have just halfway decent teams, they have far more fans that have their life revolve around the team than we will. They have no pro sports teams in their local TV market. The coverage revolves around them, thus it is that way in the minds of the citizens. The college game will always be the show.
You can argue about how much of an advantage this is, but there is absolutely no way you can say it is not some form of an intrinsic advantage.
While winning will GREATLY improve the gameday experience, it is simply never going to be a selling point for our program. You guys saw the OSU vs UW game, it was insanity the entire day there. And then the team showed up as big as the fans. I simply cannot envision that type of environment at TCF - maybe I'm all wrong, but I doubt we'll be landing Gameday anytime soon.
I think you're wrong. Michigan 2003 was insane for hours at the tailgate lot and for the pre-game. The first three quarters were pretty solid too. And that was the Dome. A sustained run of success for a couple of years would work wonders for the program and the energy surrounding it.
Admittedly, it's tough to say, since I haven't seen sustained success in my lifetime. It may never be Madison or Iowa City, but it will be the Minneapolis take on that. We'll get Gameday when we regain some measure of national relevance.
Just my take.
That is the intrinsic advantage Wisconsin and Iowa have. As long as they have just halfway decent teams, they have far more fans that have their life revolve around the team than we will. They have no pro sports teams in their local TV market. The coverage revolves around them, thus it is that way in the minds of the citizens.
I think while that's part of it, I think it's way overstated as a problem. It's true for Iowa, which has no major metro area, or pro teams, but Madison is really only a little over an hour from Milwaukee, much like Ann Arbor isn't really that far from Detroit.
I think the far bigger problem is what was stated before. A lot of people don't want to go to college in the town they grew up in, and if you consider that 3/4 of the population of MN (and thus the most good football players) is in the Twin Cities area, going to school at the U, is more or less, going to school in the "town" you grew up in. People want to get away from their parents and their home for a few years, and by going to Iowa or Wisconsin (or the Dakota schools), they're close enough to drive home in a few hours, but just far enough to where they're "away from home."
Very true. Gilreath, Anderson, and Sorenson were all gets against Mason not Brewster. I think in 2008 Wisconsin only got Joe Schafer from CDH and then it took a couple years before they nabbed Beau Allen who is the offspring of two badgers. Iowa has been even less impressive. Klug was on few people's radars and I think Binns is a 2007 guy.
We don't have to hire Urban Meyer to close the borders. We just have to not hire a stiff.