I don't think you understand what Iceland is saying. He is saying that you think there is only the Maturi level of AD, bean counter, or the level of AD that is good at EVERYTHING. You're essentially saying that there are only *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!# candidates and perfect candidates. We're not going to find many perfect candidates so to you all of them will be *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#.
J Robinson supports John Anderson for AD, not national search.
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Ok, I get it. I wasn't looking at it that way.
No reason we can't be shooting for a perfect candidate though.
We may not get one, but I just don't like the "we'll settle for mediocre" attitude.
If that's all we can get, fine. But I'd hope the search is going after top targets.
Even if it was blatantly obvious John Anderson is the bonafide best candidate (which isn't even close to being the case), you don't limit your search just to cut costs. That's how you end up making mistakes. You gotta keep an open mind with this, not just sit there and play favorites.
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Apparently, some people are trying hard not to hire Casey from the Como Zoo to be the next AD. I saw Casey eat his excrement. He is powerful, can leap from limb to limb. I agree that dung eating gorillas are not what we want in an AD. People, stop acting like the next AD is going to be a chimp, ape, gorilla, monkey or have a pea size brain if he comes from one side of the house or the next. It just proves how narrow minded this whole community can look like. I would be very interested in how a potential candidate like John Anderson would speak to issues around football before I condemn the man to GH purgatory.
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So he doesn't get credit for securing major donations?
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You are going to be sorely disappointed, Ole. Whoever is hired to replace Maturi will have to wait 5 to 10 years to make any significant changes to what Maturi already has in place. What coach is the new guy (or gal) going to be able to replace in the next 5 years who is going to matter to anyone outside GopherHole? Maybe Tubby and I wouldn't necessarily count on that happening.
The existing culture at the U means no Gopher AD will ever have the sole power to eliminate or even de-emphasize non-revenue sports. Women politicians, donors, and supporters of the U are much too powerful to permit even one women's sport to be negatively impacted in any way. And you saw what happened when the U tried to eliminate golf and gymnastics.
Far too many people in GopherHole are depending on the new AD to come in and change a sports culture at the U that has been in the making for over 40 years. It is going to take at least a decade before we start to see significant results from the new AD (assuming he or she stays around that long). I for one am not going to hold my breath waiting for it to happen. The only thing which will speed it up is a Big 10 football championship or a trip to the Rose Bowl
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Sure he does. But it took a long time (and the eventual involvement of Maturi) to get the thing done. And that was for a facility that directly benefited his team in the sport he is super passionate about. That sort of result shouldn't excite anyone who things high quality fundraising needs to be a priority from the new AD given the facilities challenges (BB practice facility, improvements for FB practice facilities, renovation or replacement of Williams) that the U is still facing.
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You don't have to actively deemphasize the non-rev's to properly emphasize the rev's. You also don't have to win at Rose Bowl levels to make big changes (though that's the best shortcut). Cutting sports won't solve anything because it doesn't save enough money. Fundraising is priority #1 because only fundraising will get the bball practice facility and other capital projects done. And it can be done without winning and without touching non-revs. Finding ways to improve attendance and gameday atmosphere (besides winning) is another thing that can commence without impacting the non-revs and that is important to having FB make more money. Without winning these won't be life altering changes. But with gameday atmosphere incremental is better than nothing.
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I'd say the coaching changes aren't likely, but when/if they come, the AD will be well integrated into their position by then.
The culture change absolutely needs to happen.
You list many of the greatest obstacles to changing the culture in dinkytown, I think we can see Kaler is trying to position himself in a way he can pull the strings on the hire, and will have to navigate those negative forces with "his AD" as they come up.
He's got 2/3 final votes for the pool to be presented to him, he's massaged the NR god Maturi into being a calming force on his way to retirement to placate the well known opponents of big time athletics.
Like I said, if the new AD is anything other than a positive force for change in the athletics dept, we will know that Kaler failed to get what he wanted out of the search.
I feel confident in Kaler making a savvy choice and pulling strings properly in a way to get his AD lined up and ready to install the changes necessary to improve and grow the university's athletics prowess.
I'd say the coaching changes aren't likely, but when/if they come, the AD will be well integrated into their position by then.
The culture change absolutely needs to happen.
You list many of the greatest obstacles to changing the culture in dinkytown, I think we can see Kaler is trying to position himself in a way he can pull the strings on the hire, and will have to navigate those negative forces with "his AD" as they come up.
He's got 2/3 final votes for the pool to be presented to him, he's massaged the NR god Maturi into being a calming force on his way to retirement to placate the well known opponents of big time athletics.
Like I said, if the new AD is anything other than a positive force for change in the athletics dept, we will know that Kaler failed to get what he wanted out of the search.
I feel confident in Kaler making a savvy choice and pulling strings properly in a way to get his AD lined up and ready to install the changes necessary to improve and grow the university's athletics prowess.
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[/QUOTE]...The existing culture at the U means no Gopher AD will ever have the sole power to eliminate or even de-emphasize non-revenue sports. Women politicians, donors, and supporters of the U are much too powerful to permit even one women's sport to be negatively impacted in any way. And you saw what happened when the U tried to eliminate golf and gymnastics.
Far too many people in GopherHole are depending on the new AD to come in and change a sports culture at the U that has been in the making for over 40 years. It is going to take at least a decade before we start to see significant results from the new AD (assuming he or she stays around that long). I for one am not going to hold my breath waiting for it to happen. The only thing which will speed it up is a Big 10 football championship or a trip to the Rose Bowl[/QUOTE]
And this is exactly the point that J Rob was making...who do you think would have a better chance of navigating through this complex culture and fighting for systematic changes which would further enable a culture of winning for our major revenue sports -- someone from the outside who may need 5-10 years just to get their arms around the culture, or an individual like John Anderson who has first-hand lived it and understands these challenges all too well.
Are some of you guys really naieve enough to believe that J. Rob and John A don't understand the fact that the major revenue sports are the financial engines that drives the overall athletic department? Of course they understand this, and they would like nothing more than our "power" sports to be hugely successful, which in turn would allow additional financial support to all of our athletic programs.
The challenge is not figuring out what needs to be done, but having someone in charge that can navigate his way towards getting the agenda pushed through.
p.s. If I had my way, I'd immediately put J Rob in charge of the entire athletic department. But, no one at the U would be willing to tolerate the Discipline, Dedication, Accountability, and Responsibility that J would DEMAND from every individual associated with the U of M, until he got the job done!
Far too many people in GopherHole are depending on the new AD to come in and change a sports culture at the U that has been in the making for over 40 years. It is going to take at least a decade before we start to see significant results from the new AD (assuming he or she stays around that long). I for one am not going to hold my breath waiting for it to happen. The only thing which will speed it up is a Big 10 football championship or a trip to the Rose Bowl[/QUOTE]
And this is exactly the point that J Rob was making...who do you think would have a better chance of navigating through this complex culture and fighting for systematic changes which would further enable a culture of winning for our major revenue sports -- someone from the outside who may need 5-10 years just to get their arms around the culture, or an individual like John Anderson who has first-hand lived it and understands these challenges all too well.
Are some of you guys really naieve enough to believe that J. Rob and John A don't understand the fact that the major revenue sports are the financial engines that drives the overall athletic department? Of course they understand this, and they would like nothing more than our "power" sports to be hugely successful, which in turn would allow additional financial support to all of our athletic programs.
The challenge is not figuring out what needs to be done, but having someone in charge that can navigate his way towards getting the agenda pushed through.
p.s. If I had my way, I'd immediately put J Rob in charge of the entire athletic department. But, no one at the U would be willing to tolerate the Discipline, Dedication, Accountability, and Responsibility that J would DEMAND from every individual associated with the U of M, until he got the job done!
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And running the whole dept like a wrestling team suggests he'd be able to fundraise like a mother for a bball practice facility how? J Rob is a hell of a wrestling coach. That means nothing when it comes to how he'd be as an athletic director.
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This is from an interview in today's Pioneer Press. John Anderson has an interest in the success of football at the "U", as do most coaches over there. They know where the money comes from and they want everybody over there to succeed.
Would I want to be the athletics director at Minnesota? Any time you spend your entire life at one institution and have a strong vested interest in a place, you want to make it better. I'd love to see our athletic program, especially in football, reach a different level of success. I don't want to do it for ego. I don't want to do it for money. If someone thought I could help, I would be interested. But I'm not self-promoting myself for the job.
Would I want to be the athletics director at Minnesota? Any time you spend your entire life at one institution and have a strong vested interest in a place, you want to make it better. I'd love to see our athletic program, especially in football, reach a different level of success. I don't want to do it for ego. I don't want to do it for money. If someone thought I could help, I would be interested. But I'm not self-promoting myself for the job.
Good to know he's not clueless.
If he's the best man for the job hire him, if not, then don't.
In our back and forth last week I didn't say he shouldn't be considered. I just want the best possible candidate, and as far from anything like Maturi as possible.
My opinion.