Wooty_Woot
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[IF] Campbell's interception doesn't get called back, it doesn't. See how the [IF] games works?If Mo doesn't fumble, that running game wins the game......
[IF] Campbell's interception doesn't get called back, it doesn't. See how the [IF] games works?If Mo doesn't fumble, that running game wins the game......
I said "aggressive and opportunistic," as to Iowa's defensive style/mindset. I didn't mention blitzes, didn't specify coverage type. Iowa and Minnesota's defenses were quite similar in terms of yardage allowed, points allowed in 2022: both were among the very best in the nation. But despite this "global" stat similarity, Iowa had 87 TFLs (30th in FBS) while Minnesota had 47 (131st, dead last in FBS); Iowa had 35 sacks (27th) while Minnesota had 19 (118th); Iowa held a modest turnover advantage (23 to 19); both Iowa and Minnesota both had 15 interceptions, but Iowa ran 4 back for TDs, while Minnesota ran back 1 (against Syracuse); Iowa blocked 3 kicks, Minnesota was one of only 30 FBS teams that blocked none. Based on these meaningful differences (more pronounced in some respects like INTs and pick sixes, in 2021), I believe that Iowa plays more aggressively and opportunistically on defense, on average giving its offense somewhat better starting points in the field. Now, Iowa's offense is so frikkin' bad it rarely takes advantage of these gifts, ...That’s just flat out wrong.
Iowa plays one of the more conservative styles of defense in the nation.
They are almost exclusively 4 man rush.
Hardly ever blitz.
Hardly ever play man.
Simple zone coverages.
Being good and being aggressive aren’t the same thing
I said "aggressive and opportunistic," as to Iowa's defensive style/mindset. I didn't mention blitzes, didn't specify coverage type. Iowa and Minnesota's defenses were quite similar in terms of yardage allowed, points allowed in 2022: both were among the very best in the nation. But despite this "global" stat similarity, Iowa had 87 TFLs (30th in FBS) while Minnesota had 47 (131st, dead last in FBS); Iowa had 35 sacks (27th) while Minnesota had 19 (118th); Iowa held a modest turnover advantage (23 to 19); both Iowa and Minnesota both had 15 interceptions, but Iowa ran 4 back for TDs, while Minnesota ran back 1 (against Syracuse); Iowa blocked 3 kicks, Minnesota was one of only 30 FBS teams that blocked none. Based on these meaningful differences (more pronounced in some respects like INTs and pick sixes, in 2021), I believe that Iowa plays more aggressively and opportunistically on defense, on average giving its offense somewhat better starting points in the field. Now, Iowa's offense is so frikkin' bad it rarely takes advantage of these gifts, ...
OK, how about this: "Iowa's defense is much more successful than the Gophers' at producing tackles for loss, sacks, pick sixes, blocked kicks and other disruptive stuff. Iowa is able to do this because they scheme to play the opposite of aggressively." Are we good?You'll have to define "aggressive" then.
Creating TFL's, sacks, interceptions isn't a result of some aggressive Iowa scheme. It is actually the opposite.
OK, how about this: "Iowa's defense is much more successful than the Gophers' at producing tackles for loss, sacks, pick sixes, blocked kicks and other disruptive stuff. Iowa is able to do this because they scheme to play the opposite of aggressively." Are we good?
That’s trueOK, how about this: "Iowa's defense is much more successful than the Gophers' at producing tackles for loss, sacks, pick sixes, blocked kicks and other disruptive stuff. Iowa is able to do this because they scheme to play the opposite of aggressively." Are we good?
I was trying to please tjgopher with this new formulation. He and I agree on the basic stats (objective facts) about Iowa vs Minnesota defense, but we are somewhat at variance about what aggressive defensive play means. I’ve moved on. The stats are the stats. They mean something. I’ll let them speak for themselves.That’s true
But it isn’t what you said before which is why I responded to you
He and you aren’t in disagreementI was trying to please tjgopher with this new formulation. He and I agree on the basic stats (objective facts) about Iowa vs Minnesota defense, but we are somewhat at variance about what aggressive defensive play means. I’ve moved on. The stats are the stats. They mean something. I’ll let them speak for themselves.
I actually think that the “opposite” of aggressively is passively. I’m giving you an alternate formulation so that you and I can move on instead of arguing semantics. I don’t actually believe that Iowa plays the “opposite” of aggressively. But we both can agree that, whatever the heck you want to call what Iowa does, it produces lots of TFLs, sacks, pick sixes and blocked kicks; and, whatever the heck you want to call what the Gophers do, it doesn’t produce much of those things. Those are objective facts.That’s true
But it isn’t what you said before which is why I responded to you
LolI actually think that the “opposite” of aggressively is passively. I’m giving you an alternate formulation so that you and I can move on instead of arguing semantics. I don’t actually believe that Iowa plays the “opposite” of aggressively. But we both can agree that, whatever the heck you want to call what Iowa does, it produces lots of TFLs, sacks, pick sixes and blocked kicks; and, whatever the heck you want to call what the Gophers do, it doesn’t produce much of those things. Those are objective facts.
I think a defense that gets tons of TFLs, sacks and pick sixes is playing aggressively … it isn’t waiting for play to come to it. Iowa plays the same most of the time, aggressively attacking the offense. In this respect I disagree with all of society, I guess.He and you aren’t in disagreement
You are in disagreement with the rest of society
A defense that doesn’t change what they do much and doesn’t blitz isn’t considered by anyone except you to be an “aggressive defense”
The gophers also play a conservative defense. Not quite as conservative as Iowa IMO.I think a defense that gets tons of TFLs, sacks and pick sixes is playing aggressively … it isn’t waiting for play to come to it. Iowa plays the same most of the time, aggressively attacking the offense. In this respect I disagree with all of society, I guess.
I wish, then, that the Gophers would start playing a really “conservative” defense so we could get some darn TFLs, sacks, pick sizes and blocked kicks.