Interesting Map - College Football Fans By Zip Code

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If the Badgers are more popular in Minnesota than the Gophers are, why aren't any Minnesota stations members of the Badger Radio Network? Surely they would take advantage of this popularity. What of the scarcity if Badger T-shirts in Minnesota? Using Facebook likes to measure popularity may work most of the time, but it is pretty clear it isn't working here. Why people who follow Gophers football aren't liking it on Facebook isn't clear. Perhaps the U has an opportunity to do better on social media.

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RodentRampage said:
If the Badgers are more popular in Minnesota than the Gophers are, why aren't any Minnesota stations members of the Badger Radio Network? Surely they would take advantage of this popularity. What of the scarcity if Badger T-shirts in Minnesota? Using Facebook likes to measure popularity may work most of the time, but it is pretty clear it isn't working here. Why people who follow Gophers football aren't liking it on Facebook isn't clear. Perhaps the U has an opportunity to do better on social media.

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Maybe neither of them are that popular here hence why the badger radio network doesn't want to join up.
 


maroonedinCA said:
Maybe neither of them are that popular here hence why the badger radio network doesn't want to join up.
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If Badger football is really more popular in Minnesota that Gopher football, and this market isn't worth the Badgers going after, then it isn't worth the U going after. KFAN obviously thinks that the audience that listens to Gopher football games is worthwhile. Are they mistaken? According to this map, the Badgers are more popular on in the area right around TCF Bank Stadium by an 18-13 margin, and that's just not plausible. It appeard clear that measuring Facebook likes isn't always an accurate measure of popularity.

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kisarazu said:
Having said that, I still think the map provides a glimpse of fan support. Even if the data is skewed and incomplete, it's still an interesting, if not humbling glimpse.
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Kis, your first answer was much better than this one. This map is total crap. There is no way that FB "likes" are nearly equivalent county-to-county across greater Outstate MN. So, it's clear a ton (of really awful) extrapolation was performed to make this map.

Outstate MN is chock full of either (1) NFL-only fans or (2) Vikings/Gophers fans. If outstate Minnesotans cheer for a college football team, it's going to be the Gophers.

There are about a million reasons one should not use that as a yardstick of support; first and foremost, fans of teams doing well, wearing little kids' clothes (Oregon), and those with an excited fanbase (those being largely successful) are naturally going to garner a lot more FB likes. That does not mean that teams that don't get FB likes aren't the far-favorite teams in the area. FB likes correlates more with excitement.
 

bonin21 said:
Gopher football has less than 37,000 likes on FB. No one said this is scientific, but that's why we come out looking bad.

Gopher hockey has more than 70,000 likes. UND hockey has less than 13,000. That map would end up looking stupid, too. Parts of these maps are interesting to look at, but as a whole they are not worthy of more than a few minutes of attention.
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Gopher hockey is a "winner" - thus, it's cooler to "like" Gopher Hockey than the football team. Five years ago in the Pittsburgh area most people wouldn't be found dead wearing a Pirate's cap. Suddenly the last two years they are in the playoffs and Pirate caps are everywhere. Funny how that works. Use of FB likes to represent a map of favorite teams in an area is stupid at best, and possibly ludicrous. They'd be much more accurate in saying it represents some unknown and unquantifiable level of ultra-support for a team. And even that wouldn't be that accurate.

They couldn't perform a scientific poll using surveys to make this map? Or at least use something more representative like long-term gear sales at sporting goods stores? I swear the media is getting dumber and dumber.
 

Every Wisconsin town you pass through has the same establishment arrangement. Bar, laundromat, bar, Caseys, bar, old bowling ally with pictures of Ed Gein, bar, home for wayward mothers, bar, Satellite center for outdoor thunder mugs ( most houses don't have indoor plumbing ) and of course the detox centers to coincide with all the bars.
 

cncmin said:
Kis, your first answer was much better than this one. This map is total crap. There is no way that FB "likes" are nearly equivalent county-to-county across greater Outstate MN. So, it's clear a ton (of really awful) extrapolation was performed to make this map.

Outstate MN is chock full of either (1) NFL-only fans or (2) Vikings/Gophers fans. If outstate Minnesotans cheer for a college football team, it's going to be the Gophers.

There are about a million reasons one should not use that as a yardstick of support; first and foremost, fans of teams doing well, wearing little kids' clothes (Oregon), and those with an excited fanbase (those being largely successful) are naturally going to garner a lot more FB likes. That does not mean that teams that don't get FB likes aren't the far-favorite teams in the area. FB likes correlates more with excitement.
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I completely agree. Perhaps my second post communicated too much credit to the map. I don't at all believe it to be an accurate account of college football fans. I do, however, believe it to be an accurate account of Facebook likes.
 



kisarazu said:
I completely agree. Perhaps my second post communicated too much unintended faith in the map. I don't at all believe it to be an accurate account of college football fans. I do, however, believe it to be an accurate account of Facebook likes.
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haha, yeah, I'm pretty sure it does represent FB likes, for whatever that's worth (something, but not much). :)

Note, I suppose I should clarify what I said above: "So, it's clear a ton (of really awful) extrapolation was performed to make this map. " What I meant by that is that I'm sure the data on FB likes is sparse and insignificant in low-population counties. Thus, one would presume that they'd "average" FB "like" data across multiple adjacent counties to get any worthwhile data at all. This would explain the unusually/unreasonably consistent data across large swaths of low-population-density areas across the map.
 

cncmin said:
Kis, your first answer was much better than this one. This map is total crap. There is no way that FB "likes" are nearly equivalent county-to-county across greater Outstate MN. So, it's clear a ton (of really awful) extrapolation was performed to make this map.

Outstate MN is chock full of either (1) NFL-only fans or (2) Vikings/Gophers fans. If outstate Minnesotans cheer for a college football team, it's going to be the Gophers.

There are about a million reasons one should not use that as a yardstick of support; first and foremost, fans of teams doing well, wearing little kids' clothes (Oregon), and those with an excited fanbase (those being largely successful) are naturally going to garner a lot more FB likes. That does not mean that teams that don't get FB likes aren't the far-favorite teams in the area. FB likes correlates more with excitement.
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+1
Very well put
 

cncmin said:
ha, yeah, I'm pretty sure it does represent FB likes. :)

Also, I suppose I should clarify what I said above: "So, it's clear a ton (of really awful) extrapolation was performed to make this map. " What I meant by that is that I'm sure the data on FB likes is sparse and insignificant in low-population counties. Thus, one would presume that they'd "average" FB "like" data across multiple adjacent counties to get any worthwhile data at all. This would explain the unusually/unreasonably consistent data across large swaths of low-population-density areas across the map.
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Ha, exactly.
 

The Gopher football team's Facebook page has 36,503 likes. Iowa's football team's Facebook page has 39,959 likes. Wisconsin's football team's Facebook page has 341,842 likes. Is Badgers football really 8.6 times more popular than Hawkeyes' football? Is it really 9.4 times more popular than Gophers football? Doubtful. Such an eyebrow-raising result merits a closer look instead of simply asserting that Badgers football is more popular than Gophers football in Minnesota. One possible explanation is that Wisconsin is just better at social media than is Minnesota or Iowa.
 



ITT: Gopher fans in denial about the irrelevance of this program.
 

theTurning said:
ITT: Gopher fans in denial about the irrelevance of this program.
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In this thread.....some poster named theTurning implies that he believes that facebook likes determine the most popular teams in an area.
 

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