Indiana took 40 FT's to Minnesota's 15?! Officiating in this game was a travesty

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Moses87 said:
Any specific names? I guess I watched too much NFL this weekend cuz I didn't see anybody on the national level praising Minnesota.
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from Myron (I know but he's a national guy now)

Indiana and Minnesota win: No. 5 Indiana and No. 8 Minnesota did plenty to boost their respective national reputations in the Hoosiers’ 88-81 win over the Gophers in Bloomington. For the bulk of the game, Indiana proved that it is one of the best teams in the country with a dominant performance that nearly KO’d Minnesota. The Hoosiers were 7-for-11 from the 3-point line and led 52-29 at halftime. It was an amazing performance. A lot of teams would have been resigned to defeat if trailing by 23 points at the half, especially against a Hoosiers squad that had won 18 in a row at Assembly Hall. Not Minnesota. This gutsy crew, by far Tubby Smith’s most skilled, scored 52 points and held the Hoosiers to a 1-for-8 clip from beyond the arc in the second half. They kept fighting and had a legitimate shot at the upset late. That’s what matters for a program that could face the No. 1 team in the country Thursday when it welcomes Michigan in to Minneapolis. The Gophers can feed off that finish.
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Andy Katz ‏@ESPNAndyKatz
This is my plea to AP voters. Don't drop Minnesota if the Gophers lose this game. They are a top 10 team, playing on the road. Right there.


Andy Katz ‏@ESPNAndyKatz
The Big Ten is the best conference this season because it has the most teams capable of making the Final Four. Two of them on display at IU.
(I think this was posted right after the game or near the end)

From ESPNS's Pick n Roll column
Three observations

2. Minnesota shouldn't drop in the polls. Heck, I know it won't happen, but I wouldn't even mind if the Gophers moved up a spot following Saturday's 88-81 loss to an outstanding Indiana team in Bloomington. Tubby Smith's squad showed a ton of toughness by fighting back from a 23-point deficit in the second half. Minnesota trailed by only three with 19 seconds remaining before Indiana closed out the win.

Three things I learned

2. Minnesota is who we thought they were. Had IU continued its thrashing of Minnesota in the second half -- it was on pace for a 104-58 win, mind you -- we could have asked whether the Gophers were truly ready to compete at the highest levels this season. That would have been pretty silly, but still, it would have been there. Instead, Trevor Mbakwe and company acquitted themselves incredibly well, fighting a battle of attrition to pull within striking distance in the second half. Tubby Smith said his team could have folded it up in the second half, and he's right. But the fact that they were one possession away during the last 30 seconds -- and would have had a chance to tie or win the score but for a brilliant Cody Zeller rebound-tip to Jordan Hulls -- tells you all you need to know.
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A few times during this game, I believe it was Yogi particularly, I asked myself if the NCAA has removed the five second violation for ball handlers?

Would have to re watch to see exactly and count it though. One time specifically towards the end of the game that ultimately resulted in a foul call on the Gophers I believe.
 

scher215 said:
A few times during this game, I believe it was Yogi particularly, I asked myself if the NCAA has removed the five second violation for ball handlers?

Would have to re watch to see exactly and count it though. One time specifically towards the end of the game that ultimately resulted in a foul call on the Gophers I believe.
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There was also a time when IU got a timeout called with Watford stuck in the back court and 26 on the shot clock, meaning 1 more second and we woulda had a 10 sec violation. I hate that bailout rule...Should be no timeouts allowed in the backcourt after the first 5 seconds have ticked off. Yogi got away with several travel calls as well...he has a habit of pickin up his pivot foot. One in particular was blatant...For those who have the game recorded, go and look at the play where he drove into Mbakwe near the basket and got bailed out by the refs...When he started that drive he picked up his pivot foot and took 2 steps before dribbling the ball.
 


Moses87 said:
There was also a time when IU got a timeout called with Watford stuck in the back court and 26 on the shot clock, meaning 1 more second and we woulda had a 10 sec violation. I hate that bailout rule...Should be no timeouts allowed in the backcourt after the first 5 seconds have ticked off. Yogi got away with several travel calls as well...he has a habit of pickin up his pivot foot. One in particular was blatant...For those who have the game recorded, go and look at the play where he drove into Mbakwe near the basket and got bailed out by the refs...When he started that drive he picked up his pivot foot and took 2 steps before dribbling the ball.
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Agreed about the 10 second in general, not just in this game. Why should you get a new 10 seconds if you call a TO still in the backcourt? It makes no sense. If you call a TO you should have whatever is left to get it across. In this instance, Indiana didn't get across half court until the shot clock was at :19.

That seems really dumb and penalizes good D. Especially when a coach can call the TO.
 

WilliamsArenaGuy said:
Agreed about the 10 second in general, not just in this game. Why should you get a new 10 seconds if you call a TO still in the backcourt? It makes no sense. If you call a TO you should have whatever is left to get it across. In this instance, Indiana didn't get across half court until the shot clock was at :19.

That seems really dumb and penalizes good D. Especially when a coach can call the TO.
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It still rewards the d though. If (for example that specific possession you're referencing) the D puts on a great press, forces a timeout, then presses again, the shot clock is to 16 by the time the opposing team gets set up. That's a big win for the defense, and a key reason teams implement man-to-man press. The goal isn't always to create turnovers (obviously in this instance it was our main goal), but it's to force the offense to work and be out of rhythm setting up
 

Notice, also, that when the ball goes out of bounds off the defense that you can inbound it back into the backcourt again. I suppose you want that overturned also?
 

brucekaupa said:
Notice, also, that when the ball goes out of bounds off the defense that you can inbound it back into the backcourt again. I suppose you want that overturned also?
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Is this question directed at me? If so, I have no idea what you are asking or how it pertains. My point is if you call a TO before crossing half court you shouldn't get a new ten seconds. What changed? There was no foul. You can call a TO to regroup, but the clock resumes when play does. Doesn't seem that difficult to grasp. You don't get a new shot clock when you call a TO.
 



WilliamsArenaGuy said:
Is this question directed at me? If so, I have no idea what you are asking or how it pertains. My point is if you call a TO before crossing half court you shouldn't get a new ten seconds. What changed? There was no foul. You can call a TO to regroup, but the clock resumes when play does. Doesn't seem that difficult to grasp. You don't get a new shot clock when you call a TO.
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My point is that once you cross half court and call a time out, you can inbound the ball back into the back court and get a fresh 10. It totally pertains. Whether or not the ball crosses...if there is a stoppage in play, you get a fresh 10 in the back court. Don't think I had difficulty grasping anything, Jack.
 

brucekaupa said:
My point is that once you cross half court and call a time out, you can inbound the ball back into the back court and get a fresh 10. It totally pertains. Whether or not the ball crosses...if there is a stoppage in play, you get a fresh 10 in the back court. Don't think I had difficulty grasping anything, Jack.
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Well I'm sorry for having an opinion on a rule. If they were to disallow inbounding into the backcourt once you've crossed, I'd have no problem with that either. But at least the ball had already passed once in the allotted time, therefore earning the right to go back again. I can look at that both ways.

In this case, the ball had NOT crossed half court yet; therefore, the right to go back and get another 10 seconds had not been earned.

That's my opinion. Out.
 

I think looking back to the reason behind the rule helps.

The rule exists to prevent stalling. As is, the rule does exactly that.

The rule does not exist to reward the defensive team for a well-executed press.
 

brucekaupa said:
I think looking back to the reason behind the rule helps.

The rule exists to prevent stalling. As is, the rule does exactly that.

The rule does not exist to reward the defensive team for a well-executed press.
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Just for fun. Dud you hear the analyst tonight totally makes argument that if you call a TO before crossing half court that it is dumb you get a new 10 seconds? It should start back up where you called the TO.

That's all. Just found it interesting. I knew there was no way I was the only one who thought that.
 



WilliamsArenaGuy said:
Just for fun. Dud you hear the analyst tonight totally makes argument that if you call a TO before crossing half court that it is dumb you get a new 10 seconds? It should start back up where you called the TO.

That's all. Just found it interesting. I knew there was no way I was the only one who thought that.
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Jesus for typos. "Did you hear him make the argument...?"
 

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