I’m a fleck guy but


Just a quick opinion here that I hope will start discussion. I believe the Gophers are bottom 3rd in total athletic department revenue and spend on football (~16th if I remember correctly) yet our results with Fleck are regularly mid-tier (4-5 or 5-4) in the Big Ten. Shouldn't most of the heat be on the Regents (lack of support for football) and Athletic Department (lack of courting and securing big money donors)?

Seems to me that Fleck is taking what he has (limited resources compared to Big Ten peers) and punching above his weight. Thinking Fleck is doing fine and should be provided more resources to see if he can bring the program to higher heights.

However, if all the heat remains on Fleck, it seems to be misplaced when he is working at such a deficit. Need more heat on the Regents to really make some headway and also a little heat on the AD to funnel more resources to football (maybe work on some (better/more?) gift officers who can push for more donations?). Just wondering if I am crazy here, would appreciate everyone's' thoughts.
 
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we wouldn't get absolutely demolished every time we played a blue blood.

2025 was awful from that perspective. But it's hard to agree this is true over Fleck's tenure:
  • 2024 - beat USC, narrow losses to Michigan and Penn State
  • 2023 - awful against blue bloods in a bad season
  • 2022 - only played @ Penn State in AK's first career start
  • 2021 - very competitive against tOSU and had a chance until Mo's injury
  • 2019 - beat PSU, beat Auburn
  • 2018 - tOSU pulls away in the second half
For me, the greatest legitimate criticism in PJ's tenure is his performance against Iowa. Winning 2-3 more times would have greatly elevated the program in some years and been a salve for disappointment in others. If he were performing similarly against Wisconsin, I don't think he'd still be the coach.
 


Lack of commitment to football. The rich get richer. Recruiting disparities. Bad luck. Pro town. Apathetic fans. Name it.
Also, there was plenty of illegal payments. So money going to players has been going on my entire lifetime. It's only recently been legalized. It's probably the biggest reason for the downfall of the SEC.
 


2025 was awful from that perspective. But it's hard to agree this is true over Fleck's tenure:
  • 2024 - beat USC, narrow losses to Michigan and Penn State
  • 2023 - awful against blue bloods in a bad season
  • 2022 - only played @ Penn State in AK's first career start
  • 2021 - very competitive against tOSU and had a chance until Mo's injury
  • 2019 - beat PSU, beat Auburn
  • 2018 - tOSU pulls away in the second half
For me, the greatest legitimate criticism in PJ's tenure is his performance against Iowa. Winning 2-3 more times would have greatly elevated the program in some years and been a salve for disappointment in others. If he were performing similarly against Wisconsin, I don't think he'd still be the coach.
If you include the teams:
Ohio state, Michigan, Penn state, USC, Oregon, and the best non conference opponent in the time frame for each team

Minnesota is 3-9 since 2019
Iowa is 4-11 (I included TN instead of Vanderbilt as best non conference opponent but it’s debatable)
Wisconsin 2-14
Penn state 3-12



It’s hard to beat teams that don’t lose very much.
 





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