Hutchinson football

Ozzy&Ray, I don't disagree with the fact that the coaches think the world of Tommy Olson, but if he didn't have a Dad and an older Bro already playing D1, I bet he would face similar questions Bjorkland faces. At the same time if the recrutiing services thought the world like he was "that good" he wouldn't be a 3* on rivals or a low 4 star on Espn. You can talk about Tom Olson, but it's much easier when yr apart of somthing already branded such as the "Olson" name. You have BJorkland playing in a top conference against the best talent in the state and he's dominanting and the cornerstone of a prolific HS offense. You have a college team that typically sucks and makes mistakes on this front time and again.

Are you struggling with my opinion that I think Bjorklund should have a full ride from the U? I'm not downing the coaching staff bonehead.


I don't think anyone thinks he is a Seantrel Henderson type of recruit, he is simply a much more thought of player than Bjorklund.

For instance, Tommy Olson is ranked as the #1 player in MN by Rivals, Bjorklund is not in the top 10.

Tommy Olson is ranked the 24th best Guard in the country by rivals and 14th best by ESPN, Bjorklund is not ranked anywhere by rivals or ESPN.


He is rated pretty close to the best guards in the entire country by rivals.
 

MN has a reputation for putting out decent offensive linemen but I have often wondered if we would do better if we went after more of the under the radar raw athletic Minnesotan's that end up at smaller colleges around here and do quite well. You know there must be 3-4 more guys out in the State somewhere that could be the next skills player like Decker and help us be better than 3-9. I do think MN guys automatically bring heart with them because they are playing for the State.
 

Wow, a thread on Hutch football, really. Murtha and Swift were misses back in the Mason era for crying out load. I'll trust our football staff on their choices on OL prospects over the opinion of some homer fans anyday. Yeah, they'll miss every now and then but they are more often right on choosing one prospect over another than wrong.
 

I was at the Glencoe Silver Lake v. Hutchinson game taking a look at Murtha, but the player that caught my attention was Willie Van De Steeg. Willie undressed Murtha, and I began emailing Glen that if you have a scholarship to give, give it to Van De Steeg.
 

Are people seriously this mad that we didn't take Bjorklund when we have so many OL players?

Apparently some people are.;)

I for one really like the OL we have in tis class, especially with the addition of Campion.
 


If all the OL commits hold on, they have 6 already. They will need to get other areas. Would like to see them get another LB.
 

If all the OL commits hold on, they have 6 already. They will need to get other areas. Would like to see them get another LB.

exactly, you can't give everyone a scholarship. i don't know anything about coaching football, but would bjorklund have a tough time developing as a pass blocker since he played in that goofy h.s. offense.
 

I was at the Glencoe Silver Lake v. Hutchinson game taking a look at Murtha, but the player that caught my attention was Willie Van De Steeg. Willie undressed Murtha, and I began emailing Glen that if you have a scholarship to give, give it to Van De Steeg.

Willie was great but Murtha just had a much higher ceiling, which is why he has started several games this season for the Miami Dolphins and currently backs up a great LT in Jake Long.
 

Ozzy&Ray, I don't disagree with the fact that the coaches think the world of Tommy Olson, but if he didn't have a Dad and an older Bro already playing D1, I bet he would face similar questions Bjorkland faces. At the same time if the recrutiing services thought the world like he was "that good" he wouldn't be a 3* on rivals or a low 4 star on Espn. You can talk about Tom Olson, but it's much easier when yr apart of somthing already branded such as the "Olson" name.

You have BJorkland playing in a top conference against the best talent in the state and he's dominanting and the cornerstone of a prolific HS offense. You have a college team that typically sucks and makes mistakes on this front time and again.

Are you struggling with my opinion that I think Bjorklund should have a full ride from the U? I'm not downing the coaching staff bonehead.

Yes, I'm struggling with your opinion that Bjorklund should get a scholarship. It sounds like you are questioning the staff. You make Bjorklund sound like an automatic. If it was that clear he would be getting more attention than he is. It's not like he was playing in some small outstate school where no one has seen him.

And, why end your comment with a "bonehead" comment. Is Bjorklund your brother, family friend, buddy... Why the attack?

I wish the kid the best, wherever he ends up. We'll see if it is here. The coaches know what they need and want. That doesn't mean they will always be right, but they will offer who they believe is the best player.
 



I am sorry, but I must recuse myself from commenting on the attitudes of the HHS coaching staff. I have the distinctionof playing for Grady Rostberg during his first two head coaching seasons. In my two years of playing varsity football at Hutchinson, our record was 0-8 in 1970 and 2-7 in 1971. I have heard they improved on that in the years since.
 

Willie was great but Murtha just had a much higher ceiling, which is why he has started several games this season for the Miami Dolphins and currently backs up a great LT in Jake Long.

Has Hutch had any FBS talent since the Swift-Murtha-Mortensen class? I lived in Lincoln a few years back when Murtha and Swift were there, as well as Jon May, who was a heavyweight wrestler for Nebraska and a state champion out of Hutch. It did seem odd that all three of these guys from the same town in MN ended up at Nebraska.

I now live in Hutch but don't have a whole lot of knowledge on the football team, other than that they are tired of losing to GSL every year! In general, Hutchinson seems like a pretty strong Gophers town (home of Lindsay Whalen after all), but perhaps that does not extend to the football coaches.
 

If only we got players from Hutchinson we could be as good as Nebraska...I bet they brag about that potent pipeline to Hutch all the time. Every time we lose out on a fringe D1 player from MN, 25 others just like him pop up from other states. The true studs will most likely always leave for greener pastures regardless if we take the scraps or not. In this state, if you are not in the top 10 recruits you most likely have to decide whether to play for a sub D1 school (I don't know how to phrase it anymore) or walk on to your hometown team and try and earn something.
 

RE: Bjorklund

FBS schools have the benefit of 2 full years of game film of Bjorklund and if he was looking to be playing for a FBS school should have attended various FBS football camps the summer between his junior and senior years (I have no idea if he did or where he did). With a minimum of 2 full years of film (and possibly looks at camps), the only FBS school to offer him a scholarship was Toledo. That should tell you something! This is the type of player you hope to be a walk on and develop over time into a productive Big Ten lineman. Will he get a late offer from MN, it remains to be seen, but they have not seen enough upside to offer him now over other potential recruits.
 




I am sorry, but I must recuse myself from commenting on the attitudes of the HHS coaching staff. I have the distinctionof playing for Grady Rostberg during his first two head coaching seasons. In my two years of playing varsity football at Hutchinson, our record was 0-8 in 1970 and 2-7 in 1971. I have heard they improved on that in the years since.

I was referring to the GSL head coach. He (and his predecessor) will tell you Hutch did a lot for GSL as a program.
 


That's fine... but anyone else agree that Wright County Conference is a football powerhouse (especially with hutch a member)? Delano, GSL, Waconia, Hutch (STMA and Becker former members).

Wright County itself (with Rogers near by and especially Buffalo as well ;]) just produces great football teams. Lots of good talented kids there for the Gophers to look at.
 

I was referring to the GSL head coach. He (and his predecessor) will tell you Hutch did a lot for GSL as a program.

The "G" in that equation never had much of a football tradition. They were always a basketball school. Adding the "SL" and what they knew about winning football games is what really elevated the program to elite status in AAA.
 

Many hs coaches don't like the U because they get offended that they treat there best players like the sisters of the poor. When a HS coach tells the U that hey "I got this kid that has D1 talent" and the U of M consistently take the sisters of the poor from down south that rarely turn into anything, I would pretty offended myself. Then when that same HS coach gets a no brainer recruit, the come knocking and there is no affinity what so ever.

Perfect Example, taking the olineman commit from Florida over a home state like Joe Bjorkland from rosemount.

Why should we take a kid that got one D1 offer from a non AQ school vs a kid with seven D-1 offers including two from other BCS schools. :confused:
 


I go to Hutch and I haven't heard anything of that sort but we also haven't had and won't have any D-1 talent in a while. Don't worry about Hutch, we're a dying program. GSL produces more talent despite lacking size. Rosberg (our coach) also seems to be slowly losing favor within the town and we will likely have a new HC soon enough (before we produce any more D-1 guys, it'll be a while.)
 

Can you please explain this? I am from GSL and I have no idea what Hutch has done for GSL as a program.

Well, you guys got about 3 school districts because we didn't want to do the bussing. I don't know what else there would be.
 

Can you please explain this? I am from GSL and I have no idea what Hutch has done for GSL as a program.

My point is simply that in the 80s and 90s Hutch served as a model program for GSL and other schools in the area. Quality coaches, a youth program that reflected what the h.s. team did (plays and schemes), "bigger, faster, stronger" programs, etc, etc. A number of GSL kids (and Dassel Cokato kids) used to (again, back in the 90s) come to Hutch's health clubs to work out and they saw (and heard) first-hand the expectations that were placed on players back then (this was under Grady Rostberg and his staff).

GSL is now far enough removed that they have their own identity, and their very own program that the towns can be extremely proud of. But having a strong program like Hutch nearby (and a goal of beating them), I think, meant a lot to kids from GSL (you may be old enough to remember, but if not, check for articles on the celebration in Glencoe back in 89' or 90' when they beat Hutch for the first time in many, many years - pretty nuts). I don't think anyone would argue that Hutch used to have somewhat of an elitist attitude (arguably deservedly so) when it came to football, and for it, teams wanted to beat them as much as anybody. Now, however, it seems the program is "run-of-the-mill", and again, GSL has surpassed them far and away.
 

I would be willing to bet the U is the bottom in the country in terms of relationships and respect with there in state high school football programs.

Your wrong about that. I bet there have been people who have discouraged kids from coming here to satisfy their own agenda. You sound an awful like those "save Gopher football" guys.
 

Ozzy&Ray, I don't disagree with the fact that the coaches think the world of Tommy Olson, but if he didn't have a Dad and an older Bro already playing D1, I bet he would face similar questions Bjorkland faces. At the same time if the recrutiing services thought the world like he was "that good" he wouldn't be a 3* on rivals or a low 4 star on Espn. You can talk about Tom Olson, but it's much easier when yr apart of somthing already branded such as the "Olson" name.

You have BJorkland playing in a top conference against the best talent in the state and he's dominanting and the cornerstone of a prolific HS offense. You have a college team that typically sucks and makes mistakes on this front time and again.

Are you struggling with my opinion that I think Bjorklund should have a full ride from the U? I'm not downing the coaching staff bonehead.


First of all, Tommy Olson never would've been in a similar situation. He is the unquestioned #1 player in the state this year. His name has nothing to do with his status. I don't know why you think they have it it out for Bjorkland, but no major college has offered him. That tells me they don't project him to get much better, or their are other red flags.
 

I do not fault the coaches for not taking Bjorklund. Although he may turn out pretty well, he got caught in a numbers game and we simply are filled up in the offensive line. That is one reason why if you are a high school senior, it's nice to get locked in early with a scholarship.

Still, it's very important to sign the good Minnesota high school kids. It's a very good thing to build bridges with the coaches and make them feel "part of the team" and I think there is also a sense of pride your home state when you play in front of all your home town fans. You CAN win with Minnesota kids, but you need a good coach who bring out their best and recognize that the Minnesota kids are oftentimes very underrated on the national scene.
 

My point is simply that in the 80s and 90s Hutch served as a model program for GSL and other schools in the area. Quality coaches, a youth program that reflected what the h.s. team did (plays and schemes), "bigger, faster, stronger" programs, etc, etc. A number of GSL kids (and Dassel Cokato kids) used to (again, back in the 90s) come to Hutch's health clubs to work out and they saw (and heard) first-hand the expectations that were placed on players back then (this was under Grady Rostberg and his staff).

GSL is now far enough removed that they have their own identity, and their very own program that the towns can be extremely proud of. But having a strong program like Hutch nearby (and a goal of beating them), I think, meant a lot to kids from GSL (you may be old enough to remember, but if not, check for articles on the celebration in Glencoe back in 89' or 90' when they beat Hutch for the first time in many, many years - pretty nuts). I don't think anyone would argue that Hutch used to have somewhat of an elitist attitude (arguably deservedly so) when it came to football, and for it, teams wanted to beat them as much as anybody. Now, however, it seems the program is "run-of-the-mill", and again, GSL has surpassed them far and away.
Um. Silver Lake never needed to look at Hutch for an example of how to run a top notch program. When Hutch was going to Prep Bowls on a consistent basis, Silver Lake was right there in the 9-man finals.
 

Ozzy&Ray, I don't disagree with the fact that the coaches think the world of Tommy Olson, but if he didn't have a Dad and an older Bro already playing D1, I bet he would face similar questions Bjorkland faces. At the same time if the recrutiing services thought the world like he was "that good" he wouldn't be a 3* on rivals or a low 4 star on Espn. You can talk about Tom Olson, but it's much easier when yr apart of somthing already branded such as the "Olson" name.

You have BJorkland playing in a top conference against the best talent in the state and he's dominanting and the cornerstone of a prolific HS offense. You have a college team that typically sucks and makes mistakes on this front time and again.

Are you struggling with my opinion that I think Bjorklund should have a full ride from the U? I'm not downing the coaching staff bonehead.

How many D1 major offers does Bjorklund have Vs Olson?
 

Wake up

Tony Mortensen was a Hutch guy. Glad the Gophs snagged him

1) Tony was the best football product to come out of Hutch this decade outside of Swift. He was one of the most loyal kids during the Mason-Brewster changeover. Pure Golden Gopher. Not sure what that says about any HS coach bias. No idea how much influence - if any - Tony HS coaches had on his college choice when he made it.

2) There are at least four or five Class 4A schools (Totino Grace, Mankato West, Mahtomedi come to mind immediately) who've had more success than Hutch in the last ten years. To be frank: who gives a flip what the Hutch coaching staff thinks?

3) Does a Minnesota HS coach really know what "D-1" talent look like at the HS level - especially BCS talent? Maybe, but doubt any big-time coaches are taking any HS coach's word for it. They'll make their own analysis. Believe me, the Minnesotas of the world are watching enough tape of the top 25-30 kids in the state in each grad class to know who the targets are going to be.

In short, Kill's staff will decide whether most kids (outside the blue chip kids) in the state get a chance to play Big Ten-level football. The opportunity is up to them. MN HS coaches better recognize supply and demand and start getting to know Coach Kill and his staff is they want what's best for their most talented kids.
 

By the way Murtha had a classmate named Nate Swift, who set the receiving record at Nebraska, the problem started with Mason turning off the coaches with their BS. Minnesota could have used those two....guaranteed
 




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