Howard Griffith on KFAN

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Who needs KFAN? Doogie/1500, 830, FringeBT, Gopherhole, Phil Miller and Marcus are good enough for me.

I hope PA & Barrieo(sp?) enjoy covering the NFL player strike next year.
 

If you only knew everything PA has done for Jeff, you would have a completely different take.
 

I suppose working with Allen would do that to anyone
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Ridiculous statement. Let's not stoop to KFAN's level by making the same type of unnecessary and unsubstanciated cheap-shot comments towards them like they do with our University.
 


MBAGuy said:
Again, I think Barreiro particularly has gone way out of his way to rip the Gophers. While it's kind of his shtick, he takes it too far and it's in bad taste. But when the program has been largely unsuccessful for 40 years, some ripping is going to happen.
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It's old. We don't want to hear some ripping. If they want gopher fans to listen, they need to show some respect. We don't want to wait until we have a great season and for them to then try to capitalize. Do you think the media in Chicago treats cubs fans the same way? How pathetic to have this Gaard kid who's a diehard Iowa fan doing gopher coverage? how many more slaps in the face must we put up with because our program is not Ohio St?
 


Gaard is hardly a diehard Iowa fan. He doesn't support their basketball team. He picks and chooses which school he supports in each sport. He'd be more worthy of respect if he was just an Iowa fan in all sports.
 

Schnoodler said:
KFAN used to be the only station I listened to in the car unless I was listening to a game. I don't listen anymore. This is what they deserve.

When the idiots have lost their jobs, maybe then I'll return.
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Bingo! The only talk station for me, but the point is the same. The bridge was burned a long time ago.
 

Did KFAN just come to the GopherHole trying to get support? I guess that goes against what 4thstreet thought as far as needing approval from this community.
 

Doogie said:
minngg: have you seen the Sunday numbers? Have you seen the demo (25-54) numbers? Not sure your take on that is completely accurate. Does it matter if they dominate w/ 60+ listeners? In the world the FAN & we operate in, the 25-54 demo is most important by a landslide.
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Yes I have seen the Sunday numbers. Sid dominates.
 




Count me in as a former loyal KFAN listener that switched stations. I wouldn't even mind negative coverage so long as it was at least informed coverage. They have just gone for the cheap/easy way to kill a segment instead of doing any real journalistic work.

Although Gaard is an Iowa guy, he is at least the most informed guy on the station for college football. He needs a little support from the station in order to make it go anywhere though.
 


monk10 said:
I took you for your word that y'all didn't need the approval. Maybe you were just typing really fast during your backpedal?
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Keep changing the argument, clearly it's about justifying it to yourself at this point.

Is that how one gets to 2,000+ posts? Should I be taking notes?
 



Rosemountian said:
KFAN will not have Horton, Cosgrove, or a player on. When they start getting them, I will start listening. As long as the program itself is not going to KFAN for coverage, I will not.

I listen to KFAN sometimes for other purposes, gopher football coverage has not been and is not one of them.
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Nate Triplett has been on KFAN a few times. As a Gopher and as a Vikings
 

positively4thstreet said:
Keep changing the argument, clearly it's about justifying it to yourself at this point.

Is that how one gets to 2,000+ posts? Should I be taking notes?
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aw shucks, I have a fan. I do like your new persona. Anytime you want to get back to your original post, I'm game. I'll even let you take notes.
 

Justin Gaard said:
My choice, Doogs. I've got more duties and roles at the station now. If I host a show, especially this time of year, there will be college football talk. I thought Griffith was good, thought people might be interested.
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Listening to the fancast right now. Hint -- not all of us can listen on Sundays. Listening now.
 

monk10 said:
aw shucks, I have a fan. I do like your new persona. Anytime you want to get back to your original post, I'm game. I'll even let you take notes.
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Changing the argument is symptomatic of failure to establish a valid counterpoint, thus I have already won. Forgive me if I don't see a need to proceed any further.

You epitomize the bitter fan; all you seem to post about is your venomous contempt for a sports talk radio station because it doesn't adhere to your one-dimensional homerism. It's a nice day out, go outside.
 

Just finished listening to the podcast. Very good 2 hour show devoted almost entirely to Gopher football. No real cheap shots, and good a great interview with Griffith. I think the FAN is making an effort to talk more Gopher Football. But dont listen to Barriero ever. He is just annoying when it comes to talking about college football, or sports in general.
 

Write this tip down before you go outside: When communicating, and things go down a path that divert from the original topic, it is best to ask the person you are speaking with to confirm your understanding of their topic.

monk10 said:
So let me understand your thought process. I want to show to the GopherHole community, a community that you state isn't receptive to KFAN, that KFAN is making an attempt to provide more coverage of the the Gophers. And you do that by presenting the information with a barb against the community you are presenting it to? Does that sum up your thought process from your first post?
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Maybe my posting wasn't clear since this wasn't a "game" I was trying to "win". I know you got mad when I bolded and capitalized things, so I'll try to avoid that so it doesn't distract from what I care about communicating. I don't think destroying the perception of Gopher football by a bunch of admittedly uninformed sports talk radio personalities can be handled by going outside. Unfortunately for you I'm going to challenge people who think that this is an acceptable behavior and post about it on this medium. I honestly hope that your standards are raised, because when you are challenged by people like me you end up writing into the show and trying to be part of the solution.

I care about quality Gopher coverage. I look forward to the day that I can count on you for that also.
 

DLguy said:
Very good 2 hour show devoted almost entirely to Gopher football. No real cheap shots, and good a great interview with Griffith.
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Since they were filling in for Barreiro, imagine those two hours if he was there.
 

:)
positively4thstreet said:
Changing the argument is symptomatic of failure to establish a valid counterpoint, thus I have already won. Forgive me if I don't see a need to proceed any further.

You epitomize the bitter fan; all you seem to post about is your venomous contempt for a sports talk radio station because it doesn't adhere to your one-dimensional homerism. It's a nice day out, go outside.
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Monk10 a homer? Seriously? Have you taken a look through his posts. He's not exactly one of Brewster's relative. Well that is the epitome of the differences between defenders of KFAN and it's critics around here.

Any criticism or complaints, coming with as many snide and snarky asides qualifies as "the truth". Anyone who complains about the form or substance not the amount of said criticism is either lying or guilty of "one-dimensional homerism".

Monk10 is now a homer?:confused:

Has anybody seen bga1 wearing a "Union Members for Obama" button around here. ;)
 

Iceland12 said:
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Monk10 a homer? Seriously? Have you taken a look through his posts. He's not exactly one of Brewster's relative. Well that is the epitome of the differences between defenders of KFAN and it's critics around here.

Any criticism or complaints, coming with as many snide and snarky asides qualifies as "the truth". Anyone who complains about the form or substance not the amount of said criticism is either lying or guilty of "one-dimensional homerism".

Monk10 is now a homer?:confused:

Has anybody seen bga1 wearing a "Union Members for Obama" button around here. ;)
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That's cute.

Good grief, you people are thin-skinned. This whole thing started because I referenced a climate of delusional paranoia about KFAN, and so far the response has more than justified the claim.
 

positively4thstreet said:
That's cute.

Good grief, you people are thin-skinned. This whole thing started because I referenced a climate of delusional paranoia about KFAN, and so far the response has more than justified the claim.
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Criticism becomes "delusional paranoia " yeah, that's (in honor of Common Man) about "par for the course"..

"Sports, sports, sports we don't CARE about sports and there's nothing you can do to change that!"
 

positively4thstreet said:
That's cute.

Good grief, you people are thin-skinned. This whole thing started because I referenced a climate of delusional paranoia about KFAN, and so far the response has more than justified the claim.
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Just wanted to quote this before you edit it after you realize you came running into this thread trying too hard to divert your name from a mere reference point to how you groupies don't need our approval.
 

monk10 said:
Just wanted to quote this before you edit it after you realize you came running into this thread trying too hard to divert your name from a mere reference point to how you groupies don't need our approval.
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Meh, the fact that you continued to set bait for me is really much more pathetic than me taking it. It shows that I got under your skin, probably because you know I'm right. Whatever you need to tell yourself though.
 

positively4thstreet said:
Meh, the fact that you continued to set bait for me is really much more pathetic than me taking it.
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You might want to check what you wrote:
positively4thstreet said:
This whole thing started because I referenced a climate of delusional paranoia about KFAN, and so far the response has more than justified the claim.
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So you set some bait hoping to get a response? I think this sounds about right.

positively4thstreet said:
It shows that I got under your skin, probably because you know I'm right. Whatever you need to tell yourself though.
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It must really bother you that KFAN gets exposed pretty harshly on this site.


Unregisterd, have I crossed the line from playing with this dude to being an a-hole with it? It feels a bit easy.
 

Hey Justin

Buy a clue. Where are most Gopher Fans listening on Sunday between 9-11? That's right, Coach Brewster and Joel Maturi on WCCO. They get callers.

Just how many Gopher Fans would choose the condescening cynic on kfan?

You sit in, get Howard Griffith on, and we are suppose to care? Tell the management, Dan and whomever is left over at that station you burned the bridge long ago. PA stick with your Vikes, Burrito I don't have a clue what you do, but I do know, We don't need you.
 

KFAN, ESPN1500, etc.

I need to admit that my dial is being tuned to KFAN much less than before. Several years ago, it was about all I ever listened to. I agree with many of the above posters...the Gopher coverage has been FAR from objective and is very much uninformed, juvenile and petty. I've grown tired of Barrreiro. He's generally a tough interviewer, and I very much appreciate sarcasm, but his Gopher stuff is stale and let's face it...easy. It takes ZERO talent, time or research to spew the same garbage over and over and over.

That said, I'm also disturbed that many people seem to tout ESPN1500 as the new messiah. Let's not forget they happen to employ Reusse. There is no single person who comes off as more vindictive and petty in his Gopher coverage than Reusse. I can honestly say I will never listen to his show, and very rarely read any of his articles.

Good luck to JG. I truly hope he can try to change the culture at KFAN. It's clear that for a very long time the negativity, name calling and poor coverage have been allowed to flourish.
 

auric@heart said:
Buy a clue. Where are most Gopher Fans listening on Sunday between 9-11? That's right, Coach Brewster and Joel Maturi on WCCO. They get callers.

Just how many Gopher Fans would choose the condescening cynic on kfan?

You sit in, get Howard Griffith on, and we are suppose to care? Tell the management, Dan and whomever is left over at that station you burned the bridge long ago. PA stick with your Vikes, Burrito I don't have a clue what you do, but I do know, We don't need you.
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Count me as one who disagrees with this. KFAN's treatment of the Gophers ticks me off as much as anybody, and Barriero is just plain disgusting when it comes to U of M sports. He clearly doesn't care if he loses us. However, if they want to try to improve their coverage of the Gophers, I'm all for it. I'm convinced that Barriero isn't up to the challenge, but others on the station are. And I encourage Barriero to at least try.

I heard the second half of JG's interview with Griffith, and I thought it was great. I wish I would've heard the first part.
 

There is 0 reason for a Gopher fan to listen to KFAN for Gopher talk because the people on that station don't know a thing about the team, yet hate the team regardless. Its pretty crazy. I live outside of Chicago and while they don't talk a lot of college football, when they do they're never as synical about any team even though they cover Ill, NW and ND. I simply don't understand why sports guys have so much hate for a CFB program. What people love about CFB isn't the winning and losing, its the tradition, the pride of having a team where your state name and players giving 100% for their team and school, students and former students cheering their team on, etc. I don't get why the media treats the U like an underachieving pro franchise. You'd think they'd actually benefit from a succesful program with a large fanbase as talking about them would bring higher ratings, give them more to write about, and maybe even open the door for them to do more guest spots and what not for the team. They seem intent on hurting a program that could benefit them and it seems stupid. Gaard is an Iowa 'fan' that has participated in the Gopher bashing on KFAN and while this is a step in the right direction, more will need to be done to show real change. KFAN needs a culture change and I'll have to see it over time. We'll see what type of coverage is happening this time next season
 

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