Heading into the weekend, a look at the 62 teams on my at-large/bubble board

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We're just over 2 weeks away from the major conferences completing their regular seasons. Let's take a look at the number of NET top 50 wins by teams currently on my at-large/bubble-board, with each team's best NET win noted in parentheses. ...

Lock, Stock & Barrel (barring a cataclysmic collapse)
1 Kansas 9 (#1 Houston)
2 Houston 9 (#8 Iowa State)
3 Marquette 8 (#9 Creighton)
4 UConn 8 (#9 Creighton)
5 Arizona 8 (@ #15 Duke)
6 Iowa State 7 (#1 Houston)
7 Purdue 7 (vs. #3 Arizona)
8 Baylor 7 (vs. #7 Auburn)
9 Alabama 7 (#7 Auburn)
10 Colorado State 6 (vs. #9 Creighton)
11 Wisconsin 6 (#13 Marquette)
12 San Diego State 6 (vs. #15 Saint Mary's)
13 Tennessee 5 (#5 Alabama)
14 North Carolina 5 (#6 Tennessee)
15 Creighton 4 (#4 UConn)
16 Clemson 4 (@ #5 Alabama)
17 Duke 4 (vs. #14 Baylor)
18 Illinois 3 (#23 Michigan State)
19 Auburn 2 (#5 Alabama)

Closing In (2 more, maybe 3, regular season wins)
1 Northwestern 5 (#2 Purdue)
2 Washington State 5 (@ #3 Arizona)
3 Texas Tech 5 (#11 BYU)
4 Boise State 5 (vs. #15 Saint Mary's)
5 New Mexico 5 (#18 San Diego State)
6 TCU 4 (#1 Houston)
7 Kentucky 4 (@ #7 Auburn)
8 BYU 4 (#8 Iowa State)
9 Texas 4 (#14 Baylor)
10 Utah State 4 (#18 San Diego State)
11 Nebraska 3 (#2 Purdue)
12 Mississippi State 3 (#6 Tennessee)
13 South Carolina 3 (@ #6 Tennessee)
14 Florida 3 (#7 Auburn)
15 Michigan State 3 (vs. #14 Baylor)
16 Saint Mary's 3 (#20 New Mexico)
17 Dayton 3 (@ #40 SMU)
18 FAU 2 (vs. #3 Arizona)

Bubblin'
1 Texas A&M 5 (#6 Tennessee)
2 Butler 5 (@ #9 Creighton)
3 Utah 5 (#11 BYU)
4 Seton Hall 4 (#4 UConn)
5 Virginia Tech 4 (vs. #8 Iowa State)
6 Providence 4 (#9 Creighton)
7 Nevada 4 (#18 San Diego State)
8 Virginia 4 (@ #25 Clemson)
9 Oklahoma 3 (#8 Iowa State)
10 Villanova 3 (@ #9 Creighton)
11 Ole Miss 3 (#30 Florida)
12 Wake Forest 2 (#30 Florida)
13 Drake 2 (#32 Indiana State)
14 Grand Canyon 1 (#18 San Diego State)
15 James Madison 1 (#23 Michigan State)
16 Gonzaga 1 (@ #24 Kentucky)
17 Indiana State 1 (#44 Drake)

Longshots
1 Memphis 4 (#25 Clemson)
2 Cincinnati 3 (@ #11 BYU)
3 Iowa 3 (#21 Wisconsin)
4 Saint John's 3 (@ #34 Villanova)
5 Pitt 3 (@ #12 Duke)
6 Oregon 1 (@ #28 Washington State)
7 Colorado 1 (#28 Washington State)
8 SMU 0

Others
Gophers 2 (#23 Michigan State)
 
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I miss the days of common-sense & conference-standings.

It wasn't perfect. But it was better than computers doing our thinking for us.
 

We're just over 2 weeks away from the major conferences completing their regular seasons. Let's take a look at the number of NET top 50 wins by teams currently on my at-large/bubble-board, with each team's best NET win noted in parentheses. ...

Lock, Stock & Barrel (barring a cataclysmic collapse)
Kansas 9 (#1 Houston)
Houston 9 (#8 Iowa State)
Marquette 8 (#9 Creighton)
UConn 8 (#9 Creighton)
Arizona 8 (@ #15 Duke)
Iowa State 7 (#1 Houston)
Purdue 7 (vs. #3 Arizona)
Baylor 7 (vs. #7 Auburn)
Alabama 7 (#7 Auburn)
Colorado State 6 (vs. #9 Creighton)
Wisconsin 6 (#13 Marquette)
San Diego State 6 (vs. #15 Saint Mary's)
Tennessee 5 (#5 Alabama)
North Carolina 5 (#6 Tennessee)
Creighton 4 (#4 UConn)
Clemson 4 (@ #5 Alabama)
Duke 4 (vs. #14 Baylor)
Illinois 3 (#23 Michigan State)
Auburn 2 (#5 Alabama)

Closing In (2 more, maybe 3, regular season wins)
Northwestern 5 (#2 Purdue)
Washington State 5 (@ #3 Arizona)
Texas Tech 5 (#11 BYU)
Boise State 5 (vs. #15 Saint Mary's)
New Mexico 5 (#18 San Diego State)
TCU 4 (#1 Houston)
Kentucky 4 (@ #7 Auburn)
BYU 4 (#8 Iowa State)
Texas 4 (#14 Baylor)
Utah State 4 (#18 San Diego State)
Nebraska 3 (#2 Purdue)
Mississippi State 3 (#6 Tennessee)
South Carolina 3 (@ #6 Tennessee)
Florida 3 (#7 Auburn)
Michigan State 3 (vs. #14 Baylor)
Saint Mary's 3 (#20 New Mexico)
Dayton 3 (@ #40 SMU)
FAU 2 (vs. #3 Arizona)

Bubblin'
Texas A&M 5 (#6 Tennessee)
Butler 5 (@ #9 Creighton)
Utah 5 (#11 BYU)
Seton Hall 4 (#4 UConn)
Virginia Tech 4 (vs. #8 Iowa State)
Providence 4 (#9 Creighton)
Nevada 4 (#18 San Diego State)
Virginia 4 (@ #25 Clemson)
Oklahoma 3 (#8 Iowa State)
Villanova 3 (@ #9 Creighton)
Ole Miss 3 (#30 Florida)
Wake Forest 2 (#30 Florida)
Drake 2 (#32 Indiana State)
Grand Canyon 1 (#18 San Diego State)
James Madison 1 (#23 Michigan State)
Gonzaga 1 (@ #24 Kentucky)
Indiana State 1 (#44 Drake)

Longshots
Memphis 4 (#25 Clemson)
Cincinnati 3 (@ #11 BYU)
Iowa 3 (#21 Wisconsin)
Saint John's 3 (@ #34 Villanova)
Pitt 3 (@ #12 Duke)
Oregon 1 (@ #28 Washington State)
Colorado 1 (#28 Washington State)
SMU 0

Others
Gophers 2 (#23 Michigan State)
Hey SS, a few questions regarding the Net 50, for the Bubble Illiterate.

Does it still count as a top 50 Net win, if the beaten Top 50 Net team doesn’t finish in the Top 50 at the end of the regular season?

Do Top 50 Net wins in the conference tourney count in the total?

Thanks.
 

Hey SS, a few questions regarding the Net 50, for the Bubble Illiterate.

Does it still count as a top 50 Net win, if the beaten Top 50 Net team doesn’t finish in the Top 50 at the end of the regular season?

Do Top 50 Net wins in the conference tourney count in the total?

Thanks.
Top 50 at end of season (Selection Sunday) not at the time you played a team, as it should be.

Yes conference tournament games count for selection purposes, Quad 1, Quad 2, etc., though there’s a feeling out there that the committee makes its final at-large decisions at the end of Friday night. That’s a conspiracy theory I don’t buy, but it’s out there.

The top-50 thing is just kind of a guide I use when it gets down to selecting the last few at-larges. At that point I just want to know which & how many good teams you beat.
 

Top 50 at end of season (Selection Sunday) not at the time you played a team, as it should be.

Yes conference tournament games count for selection purposes, Quad 1, Quad 2, etc., though there’s a feeling out there that the committee makes its final at-large decisions at the end of Friday night. That’s a conspiracy theory I don’t buy, but it’s out there.

The top-50 thing is just kind of a guide I use when it gets down to selecting the last few at-larges. At that point I just want to know which & how many good teams you beat.

Its less of a conspiracy theory that they finsh on friday and more just a fact that some people think they put a special emphasis on the conference tournaments.

They are truly just any other game. So they dont move the needle much.

Usually seedings are locked in heading into the final days and teams move around if they rattle off numberouse wins or big wins.

The one thing they have shown and stated to put emphasis on is winning leagues. You will be rewarded greatly for winning regular season and/or conference tournament.
 


We're just over 2 weeks away from the major conferences completing their regular seasons. Let's take a look at the number of NET top 50 wins by teams currently on my at-large/bubble-board, with each team's best NET win noted in parentheses. ...

Lock, Stock & Barrel (barring a cataclysmic collapse)
Kansas 9 (#1 Houston)
Houston 9 (#8 Iowa State)
Marquette 8 (#9 Creighton)
UConn 8 (#9 Creighton)
Arizona 8 (@ #15 Duke)
Iowa State 7 (#1 Houston)
Purdue 7 (vs. #3 Arizona)
Baylor 7 (vs. #7 Auburn)
Alabama 7 (#7 Auburn)
Colorado State 6 (vs. #9 Creighton)
Wisconsin 6 (#13 Marquette)
San Diego State 6 (vs. #15 Saint Mary's)
Tennessee 5 (#5 Alabama)
North Carolina 5 (#6 Tennessee)
Creighton 4 (#4 UConn)
Clemson 4 (@ #5 Alabama)
Duke 4 (vs. #14 Baylor)
Illinois 3 (#23 Michigan State)
Auburn 2 (#5 Alabama)

Closing In (2 more, maybe 3, regular season wins)
Northwestern 5 (#2 Purdue)
Washington State 5 (@ #3 Arizona)
Texas Tech 5 (#11 BYU)
Boise State 5 (vs. #15 Saint Mary's)
New Mexico 5 (#18 San Diego State)
TCU 4 (#1 Houston)
Kentucky 4 (@ #7 Auburn)
BYU 4 (#8 Iowa State)
Texas 4 (#14 Baylor)
Utah State 4 (#18 San Diego State)
Nebraska 3 (#2 Purdue)
Mississippi State 3 (#6 Tennessee)
South Carolina 3 (@ #6 Tennessee)
Florida 3 (#7 Auburn)
Michigan State 3 (vs. #14 Baylor)
Saint Mary's 3 (#20 New Mexico)
Dayton 3 (@ #40 SMU)
FAU 2 (vs. #3 Arizona)

Bubblin'
Texas A&M 5 (#6 Tennessee)
Butler 5 (@ #9 Creighton)
Utah 5 (#11 BYU)
Seton Hall 4 (#4 UConn)
Virginia Tech 4 (vs. #8 Iowa State)
Providence 4 (#9 Creighton)
Nevada 4 (#18 San Diego State)
Virginia 4 (@ #25 Clemson)
Oklahoma 3 (#8 Iowa State)
Villanova 3 (@ #9 Creighton)
Ole Miss 3 (#30 Florida)
Wake Forest 2 (#30 Florida)
Drake 2 (#32 Indiana State)
Grand Canyon 1 (#18 San Diego State)
James Madison 1 (#23 Michigan State)
Gonzaga 1 (@ #24 Kentucky)
Indiana State 1 (#44 Drake)

Longshots
Memphis 4 (#25 Clemson)
Cincinnati 3 (@ #11 BYU)
Iowa 3 (#21 Wisconsin)
Saint John's 3 (@ #34 Villanova)
Pitt 3 (@ #12 Duke)
Oregon 1 (@ #28 Washington State)
Colorado 1 (#28 Washington State)
SMU 0

Others
Gophers 2 (#23 Michigan State)
Where is Mr. Battles Ohio State team on this list? 😂
 

Saturday Bubble Impact Games
Duke @ #27 Wake Forest, 1 (ESPN)
#63 Iowa @ Illinois, 1:15 (BTN)
#45 Cincinnati @ #37 TCU, 2 (ESPN+)
#58 South Carolina @ #68 Ole Miss, 2:30 (SECN)
#39 Oklahoma @ Oklahoma State, 3 (ESPN2)
North Carolina @ #47 Virginia, 3 (ESPN)
#53 Grand Canyon @ Abilene Christian, 3 (ESPN+)
#48 JMU @ Georgia Southern, 4 (ESPN+)
#52 Virginia Tech @ #57 Pitt, 4:30
#44 Drake @ Northern Iowa, 5 (ESPN+)
#59 Oregon @ Cal, 6 (PAC12N)
#35 Boise State @ Wyoming, 6:30
UIC @ #32 Indiana State, 7 (ESPN+)
#34 Villanova @ UConn, 7 (FOX)
#49 Texas A&M @ Tennessee, 7 (ESPN)
#36 Mississippi State @ LSU, 7:30 (SECN)
#62 Butler @ #65 Seton Hall, 7:30 (FS2)
#46 Utah @ #41 Colorado, 8 (PAC12N)
Santa Clara @ #22 Gonzaga, 9 (ESPN2)
 
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I will say,

The one thing that is a shame if they cant pull off about 5 more wins and make the tournament. Is this team is definitely a tournament team right now. The resume probably wont hold up. But they are a legit 8-10 seed the way they are playing.

And if they got in with a 10 or 11 seed. Definitley can beat the current 6s/7s. And even with a good match up could make a run at 2s or 3s.
 




I will say,

The one thing that is a shame if they cant pull off about 5 more wins and make the tournament. Is this team is definitely a tournament team right now. The resume probably wont hold up. But they are a legit 8-10 seed the way they are playing.

And if they got in with a 10 or 11 seed. Definitley can beat the current 6s/7s. And even with a good match up could make a run at 2s or 3s.
Yeah I get that feeling they would be one of those play in 11s that sneak thru to the Sweet 16 after surprising everybody when selected despite a “subpar resume”. I feel like it happens every season. Let that be us!
 

Ugh. Drake @UNI always makes me nervous. If they lose though that would clear out another spot for our Gophers as they continue to get hot!
I like Bulldogs' chances if they win out & get to MVC final & lose. My gut feeling is one of these high-quality mid-majors (not named Gonzaga) with a whole bunch of wins (Drake, Indiana State, James Madison) is going to get one of the final at-large bids if they don't win their conference tournament.
 

Does winning the next two @nebby and @ Illinois, and 20 wins in the regular season get Gophs in?
 



I will say,

The one thing that is a shame if they cant pull off about 5 more wins and make the tournament. Is this team is definitely a tournament team right now. The resume probably wont hold up. But they are a legit 8-10 seed the way they are playing.

And if they got in with a 10 or 11 seed. Definitley can beat the current 6s/7s. And even with a good match up could make a run at 2s or 3s.
Absolutely agree with this. That's why I am rooting so hard for them to pull this off. They are a GOOD team.
 

Does winning the next two @nebby and @ Illinois, and 20 wins in the regular season get Gophs in?
In my opinion. …

Win all 3 road games + 1 of the 2 home games and I’d be very confident in their chances. That would get their resume slightly above the bubble, which it needs to be because of the non-conference schedule.
 

In my opinion. …

Win all 3 road games + 1 of the 2 home games and I’d be very confident in their chances. That would get their resume slightly above the bubble, which it needs to be because of the non-conference schedule.
win at home and lose on the road:
make it to the BTT finals or have to win the finals to get in?
 

I like Bulldogs' chances if they win out & get to MVC final & lose. My gut feeling is one of these high-quality mid-majors (not named Gonzaga) with a whole bunch of wins (Drake, Indiana State, James Madison) is going to get one of the final at-large bids if they don't win their conference tournament.
Kinda what I was hoping for early in season, I actually like their chances of just beating Indiana St on a neutral court right now anyways. The way it’s going Indiana St might make it a one win league if they keep losing. Surprised their net is as high as it is when they also only have the Drake win themselves.
 

What are the worst NET rankings to make the tournament as an at large? I feel like the Gophers this year could have a chance.
 

Top 50 at end of season (Selection Sunday) not at the time you played a team, as it should be.
You beat the number 1 ranked team in the country, and then they lose two All-Americans to injury and tumble down the standings.

BS that that shouldn't count as beating the #1 team in the country
 

What are the worst NET rankings to make the tournament as an at large? I feel like the Gophers this year could have a chance.
Rutgers 77 in 2022 would be my guess. There haven’t been that many years, but that at least would eliminate the Gophers from that conversation as we won’t get in if our NET decreases at all.
 


I like Bulldogs' chances if they win out & get to MVC final & lose. My gut feeling is one of these high-quality mid-majors (not named Gonzaga) with a whole bunch of wins (Drake, Indiana State, James Madison) is going to get one of the final at-large bids if they don't win their conference tournament.
Welp, little too prescient of me. Now hopefully the Bulldogs don’t steal a bid from the Gophers. Just beat everybody and take it out of the committee’s hands!
 




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