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Reading some of the posts about firing Brewster has made me think that we have become ND. It's not so much about getting Brewster fired(well that too), but more about the naming of various coaches and assuming that not only does the U have the money to buy Brewster out, but then turn around and land a very high profile coach.
 

We can dream, can't we? Replacing the most inept coaching staff in Gopher history would get me to donate. Personal foul, number XX....15 yards....first down.
 

Notre Dame? Heck you guys are on your way to becoming Fordham and St. Marys. Once great, before the Wars.
 

myleslong said:
Notre Dame? Heck you guys are on your way to becoming Fordham and St. Marys. Once great, before the Wars.
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the gophers may be a has-been, but at least they aren't a never-were.

"wisconsin football. imagining greatness since the early nineties."

on wisconsittin!
 

Notre Dame? Hardly. Fan base expectations are extremely high for the Irish. For the Gophers, not so much after 30+ years of wandering in the wilderness. We're basically the University of Indiana football program.
 



No hate goggles here. I should have added that if we fire Brewster, that's what we're going to become in the eyes of the nation. Just another program that is too impatient to actually build a top-tier program. But our fan base basically stinks.
 

myleslong said:
Notre Dame? Heck you guys are on your way to becoming Fordham and St. Marys. Once great, before the Wars.
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Swing and a miss! The question is, Badger fan and lover of flaming, are we Gopher fans on this board are starting to sound more like ND fans. Do we really think we can draw any name out of the hat and land that person as coach?

Moving on to your point, lover of photographing young shirtless men, shouldn't you feel embarrassed to have a program you liken to Fordham and St. Marys give your team a game? Oh thats right you struggled with the likes of Cal Poly technical institute of amateur digital photography......
 

myleslong said:
Notre Dame? Heck you guys are on your way to becoming Fordham and St. Marys. Once great, before the Wars.
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You know we don't play you in football for another 11 months, right? Can you go away until then? Please.

We really, really, really, really get the fact that you don't like the Gophers and that you don't like Brewster. You think he's a joke. That point is really, really, really not lost on us.

Seeing as that basically sums up the tenor of your posts here, why keep posting it? Sure, it's a little annoying on our end; but it's the height of pathetic that you contribute to a message board for a team you consider to be entirely irrelevant. Are you hoping we get better and are no longer irrelevant? Really, man, what's the point?
 



Are we really any different than anywhere else? Obviously, message boards like this are a small minority of fans in the area.

Before Tuberville in Auburn and Fulmer in Tennessee were let go, don't you think the message boards were they same as here? Or, if you go to Louisville's site right now, do you think you'll see similar postings regarding Kragthorpe? The answer is yes. I bet there are some heated debates on Colorado's site regarding Hawkins. This is life in the internet age.......everywhere.
 

Whatever the success of a given year, the failures and mistakes seem to take precedence over what has been improved upon.

You know, my loss to this board is no big deal. But to be honest, I am more then a little bothered and weary by the continual fire Brewster, this player sucks jargon. It is as if some of you got blood transfusions from Ruesse. I am not against critical debate, but way to much of it comes across as nothing more then thoughtless rants without any sort of responsibility.

So long. If you want to rag on my post, and I am certain some of you will, just know I will not be responding and will remove this site from my list of favorites. But I felt it right to say something as to my reasons why rather then just leave.
 

The U squandered huge amounts buying out Mason at a very inopportune moment to hire a new coach (during the bowls). Unlikely we'll do that again. Besides, Notre Dame has given Weiss five years - Brew has had only three and I'm sure he'll be back for a fourth. Maturi won't make a change, even next year, unless he's locked up a perfect candidate, which I doubt he can do.
 

calminnfan said:
Whatever the success of a given year, the failures and mistakes seem to take precedence over what has been improved upon.

You know, my loss to this board is no big deal. But to be honest, I am more then a little bothered and weary by the continual fire Brewster, this player sucks jargon. It is as if some of you got blood transfusions from Ruesse. I am not against critical debate, but way to much of it comes across as nothing more then thoughtless rants without any sort of responsibility.

So long. If you want to rag on my post, and I am certain some of you will, just know I will not be responding and will remove this site from my list of favorites. But I felt it right to say something as to my reasons why rather then just leave.
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Dude, it is really so few posters that make this site tough to be on. Use the ignore function. Really it makes a huge difference and you miss nothing. Believe me. You'll be glad you did.
 




I would never put you on ignore Diehard. I know you have a political impairment and all and so I can cut you some slack for that. Despite your misguided political infirmity I hold you in very high regard.
 

Here's what I don't get:

1. This program, with the exception of maybe four seasons, has been effing terrible for 40 years.
2. The recruiting that last three years has been exponentially better than anything I've seen in the last 30 years.
3. The person responsible for that recruiting has been here three years.
4. Our results over that three year period have been largely consistent with our performance over the last 40 years, with the first season worse (though certainly not without precedent in its awfulness) and the last two slightly better than our 40-year average.
5. We now want to fire the person responsible for this performance.

I'm not saying Brewster is the answer. But in my humble opinion it's absurd to even be considering firing him at this point. Was I morbidly disappointed with some of the games this year? Hell yeah I was. But I've been disappointed in this program's performance my whole effing life. I think everyone would agree we've seen an uptick in talent on the team. What's the harm in giving him another year to see if he can develop it? Another average season? Oh well, we've seen 42 of those consecutively.

Frankly, we're not Notre Dame. And, honestly, we're in no position to demand immediate results. No one save the absolute upper echelon of coaches could come here and take us to Pasadena next year. And guess what? The ain't coming here. We've sucked for a long, long time and it's going to take more than a year or two to put the pieces together. Maybe Brewster is the guy to do it and maybe he's not. If he had gone three consecutive seasons well below our miserable 40-year average, then I could understand the outrage. But he hasn't. He's increased the talent while holding us steady in performance. If that talent proves to be no good and the program stays mired in mediocrity over the next year or two, then can Brew and try something else. Until we've had a chance to see what the increased talent means for us, though, our incessant rumormongering and speculation is the personification of idiocy.
 

MBAGuy said:
Here's what I don't get:

1. This program, with the exception of maybe four seasons, has been effing terrible for 40 years.
2. The recruiting that last three years has been exponentially better than anything I've seen in the last 30 years.
3. The person responsible for that recruiting has been here three years.
4. Our results over that three year period have been largely consistent with our performance over the last 40 years, with the first season worse (though certainly not without precedent in its awfulness) and the last two slightly better than our 40-year average.
5. We now want to fire the person responsible for this performance.

I'm not saying Brewster is the answer. But in my humble opinion it's absurd to even be considering firing him at this point. Was I morbidly disappointed with some of the games this year? Hell yeah I was. But I've been disappointed in this program's performance my whole effing life. I think everyone would agree we've seen an uptick in talent on the team. What's the harm in giving him another year to see if he can develop it? Another average season? Oh well, we've seen 42 of those consecutively.

Frankly, we're not Notre Dame. And, honestly, we're in no position to demand immediate results. No one save the absolute upper echelon of coaches could come here and take us to Pasadena next year. And guess what? The ain't coming here. We've sucked for a long, long time and it's going to take more than a year or two to put the pieces together. Maybe Brewster is the guy to do it and maybe he's not. If he had gone three consecutive seasons well below our miserable 40-year average, then I could understand the outrage. But he hasn't. He's increased the talent while holding us steady in performance. If that talent proves to be no good and the program stays mired in mediocrity over the next year or two, then can Brew and try something else. Until we've had a chance to see what the increased talent means for us, though, our incessant rumormongering and speculation is the personification of idiocy.
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I generally agree with you. I'm also frustrated, but he needs one more year. I'm hoping he learns to be a good coach. We all know it seems kind of crazy for a Big Ten school to hire someone who has no coaching pedigree what-so-ever. But it happened. I say roll the dice one more year. Let's face it, if this coaching staff steps up and gets things done, we could be in a great place with the recruits coming here over the next years.
 

Great Plains Gopher said:
The U squandered huge amounts buying out Mason at a very inopportune moment to hire a new coach (during the bowls). Unlikely we'll do that again. Besides, Notre Dame has given Weiss five years - Brew has had only three and I'm sure he'll be back for a fourth. Maturi won't make a change, even next year, unless he's locked up a perfect candidate, which I doubt he can do.
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I think Maturi could be a great AD for the Gophers. He got a stadium on campus, which is HUGE. Give Brewster a couple of years, especially if you can build your fan base into a force in the TCF, and the coaching job becomes much more attractive. A former national champion (I'm sure I've read that here a few times...;)) who has come back from the grave is a great story. A former champion who moves to a new, impressive stadium and can't draw crowds is NOT a great story. It's time for the fans to do their part to bring Minnesota back. Go for the experience, even if the event isn't top notch just yet.
 

MBAGuy said:
Here's what I don't get:

1. This program, with the exception of maybe four seasons, has been effing terrible for 40 years.
2. The recruiting that last three years has been exponentially better than anything I've seen in the last 30 years.
3. The person responsible for that recruiting has been here three years.
4. Our results over that three year period have been largely consistent with our performance over the last 40 years, with the first season worse (though certainly not without precedent in its awfulness) and the last two slightly better than our 40-year average.
5. We now want to fire the person responsible for this performance.

I'm not saying Brewster is the answer. But in my humble opinion it's absurd to even be considering firing him at this point. Was I morbidly disappointed with some of the games this year? Hell yeah I was. But I've been disappointed in this program's performance my whole effing life. I think everyone would agree we've seen an uptick in talent on the team. What's the harm in giving him another year to see if he can develop it? Another average season? Oh well, we've seen 42 of those consecutively.

Frankly, we're not Notre Dame. And, honestly, we're in no position to demand immediate results. No one save the absolute upper echelon of coaches could come here and take us to Pasadena next year. And guess what? The ain't coming here. We've sucked for a long, long time and it's going to take more than a year or two to put the pieces together. Maybe Brewster is the guy to do it and maybe he's not. If he had gone three consecutive seasons well below our miserable 40-year average, then I could understand the outrage. But he hasn't. He's increased the talent while holding us steady in performance. If that talent proves to be no good and the program stays mired in mediocrity over the next year or two, then can Brew and try something else. Until we've had a chance to see what the increased talent means for us, though, our incessant rumormongering and speculation is the personification of idiocy.
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I agree with you and Donovan. I had similar thoughts when I decided to start this thread.

Kudos to TAW. It is nice to have a logical rival poster. I think he is dead on in stating that we need to do our part and make TCF our teams (and programs/coaches) friend.
 

Am I the only gopher fan here who likes myleslong? The guy is witty and pokes some fun at the gophers but doesn't go overboard and seems like a reasonable guy.
 




goldygo4 said:
Am I the only gopher fan here who likes myleslong? The guy is witty and pokes some fun at the gophers but doesn't go overboard and seems like a reasonable guy.
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Yes you are. myleslong is two faced. I will not be surprised if there is a link on Buckyville to this article with some dastardly comment about Gopherhole posters and the U of Mn in general.
 

Yes ^

I dislike Myleslong. I dislike most badger fans, unless i meet them in real life and they have any redeeming qualities. I haven't met Myles, so i wouldn't know.
 

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