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denguegopher said:
This is picky: Didn;t Kitzmann run for 266 at Illinois? I don't recall a blizzard before that game in Champaign.
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I was at that game and I do not recall any snow on the ground around the campus. In any case, it was not part of the game. Cal Stol just had the sense to keep running the same basic plays until UI could stop them. They could not. Wish the Mason coaches had that same sense when we had MBIII and TT!:(
 

GVBadger has wised up?

I am not so sure, especially when wearing red. Better dead than red and is the red you are wearing from a bloody nose?
You wear your Minnesota envy pretty open especially in your name. GopherVictoryBadger???
We know we are good, you need to get a life.

On a side note, look out for any monster trucks that might be wandering around. Strange things happen over there in dick cheese land.

Go Gophers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

GVBadger must be a politician like Loon...

GVBadger said:
Ok, that ruined a really good story. But I was at a game when a running back had a huge day after a blizzard in the 70's and now I have to go find it. Damn.:mad:
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...never let facts get in the way of your message! :)
 

I think the oc/dc situation may have slowed things down for a while. Eguae I feel would have been a gopher if not for Roofs move. It may have affected some other players too. But no I'm not worried about Brew, people seem to forget that we recently landed a kid for 2010 and another one for 2011. Dont know if anyone mentioned the coordinator thing, but i didnt want to read through the rubish.
 


GopherGod said:
Since when does Rivals care about, nor should they about academics.
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You are not paying attention. Rivals dropped us 400 points for losing Taikwon Paige. We are now at 768 points for the remaining 18 recruits. That means Rivals has ascribed an average of 43 points each to our remaining guys, including Hayo Carpenter, Hasan Lipscomb and about 10 guys ont he verge of four stars, which makes them nearly valueless. The fact they gave so many points to a player of such obvious lower worth than 400 points means the rankings are a total sham.
 

Handsome Pete said:
You are not paying attention. Rivals dropped us 400 points for losing Taikwon Paige. We are now at 768 points for the remaining 18 recruits. That means Rivals has ascribed an average of 43 points each to our remaining guys, including Hayo Carpenter, Hasan Lipscomb and about 10 guys ont he verge of four stars, which makes them nearly valueless. The fact they gave so many points to a player of such obvious lower worth than 400 points means the rankings are a total sham.
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I can see that and personally don't put a ton of faith in the Rivals rankings. If they wanted to be respected and for us to take them seriously they would tell us what factors they use to evaluate and score a player. Also, if they were reputable they would tell us who the evaluators are and their backgrounds. I question whether or not the evaluators have any background in coaching and player development or if they are all a bunch of overweight journalists who couldn't even make their high school football team.
 

GopherGod said:
I can see that and personally don't put a ton of faith in the Rivals rankings. If they wanted to be respected and for us to take them seriously they would tell us what factors they use to evaluate and score a player. Also, if they were reputable they would tell us who the evaluators are and their backgrounds. I question whether or not the evaluators have any background in coaching and player development or if they are all a bunch of overweight journalists who couldn't even make their high school football team.
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part of how they rank you is what school you go to.....go to ohio state and you are a 4

the exact same guy goes to minnesota and he is a 3
 

Downplay Brewster's recruiting ability at your own risk. You will be sorry.
 



Goldteam said:
part of how they rank you is what school you go to.....go to ohio state and you are a 4

the exact same guy goes to minnesota and he is a 3
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This is hilarious- and true. Last year a two star guy decommitted from Iowa when he got an OSU offer. The day he committed to OSU, Rivals bumped him up to three stars.

I think the point of my posts in this thread might be that Minnesota does not have a 44-ranked class, or at least that ranking is deceptive. I was originally somewhat down on this class because of the lack of four-star "stars". If you look at it though, not only do we have 13 fewer commits this year, the average guy in the 2009 class is actually higher ranked than the average guy in the 2008 class.

Just look at all the BCS offers our 2009 commits have. Simply amazing considering where we were just two years ago.
 

I do not think there would be anything illegal or against the NCAA for a recruiting site to take cash in order to inflate a particular recruiting class. Not saying it has been done, but don't know why it couldn't be done (which it should not).
 

Ask butt belimic how he likes recruiting against Brew, you punk. Butt is done with recruiting in Mn. and now Brew is picking up top 5 kids from beckyville. Enjoy the NIT this year, if you make it. Enjoy the Motor City bowl next year, that's all you will have to look forward to .
 

Goldy74s said:
I do not think there would be anything illegal or against the NCAA for a recruiting site to take cash in order to inflate a particular recruiting class. Not saying it has been done, but don't know why it couldn't be done (which it should not).
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I think you should take a look at the consumer fraud statutes in this state.
 



GopherGod said:
I can see that and personally don't put a ton of faith in the Rivals rankings. If they wanted to be respected and for us to take them seriously they would tell us what factors they use to evaluate and score a player. Also, if they were reputable they would tell us who the evaluators are and their backgrounds. I question whether or not the evaluators have any background in coaching and player development or if they are all a bunch of overweight journalists who couldn't even make their high school football team.
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I have a document but I'll just give you a high level overview because the class scoring system is quite intricate. When ranking the class they focus on # of commits and average stars. Then they give bonus points for signing a player from the Rivals 100/Juco 50 and for signing the top X number of players at a position (X varies by position, and the # of bonus points vary by the ranking). Taikwon Paige was the #2 Juco corner and one of the top Juco players which is why he gave us so many bonus points.

I'm pretty sure I've heard this rant by Loon but you didn't mention former postal workers yet so I'll give you a break until you do.
 

Also we lost 4* RB Eric Stephens to Texas Tech after our loss to Michigan and Texas Tech's big win over Texas, He was chuggin the kool-aid, punk.
 

Goldy74s said:
I do not think there would be anything illegal or against the NCAA for a recruiting site to take cash in order to inflate a particular recruiting class. Not saying it has been done, but don't know why it couldn't be done (which it should not).
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Go Away Loon
 

GoldenHerbs said:
Also we lost 4* RB Eric Stephens to Texas Tech after our loss to Michigan and Texas Tech's big win over Texas, He was chuggin the kool-aid, punk.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that his departure had a lot less to do with anything we did than what Texas Tech did. He committed to TT after attending a game in which they knocked off the #1 team in the country on the last play of the game to become the new frontrunner for the BCS Championship game. The build up for that game was intense, it was the premier game of the week, on national television, at night, with probably the best crowd that Lubbock has ever known. What recruit that grew up in Texas wouldn't have been moved by what happened in Lubbock. I grew up to bleed Maroon & Gold and but I might have wanted to commit to Texas Tech if I were there that night.
 

grunkiejr said:
I have a document but I'll just give you a high level overview because the class scoring system is quite intricate. When ranking the class they focus on # of commits and average stars. Then they give bonus points for signing a player from the Rivals 100/Juco 50 and for signing the top X number of players at a position (X varies by position, and the # of bonus points vary by the ranking). Taikwon Paige was the #2 Juco corner and one of the top Juco players which is why he gave us so many bonus points.

I'm pretty sure I've heard this rant by Loon but you didn't mention former postal workers yet so I'll give you a break until you do.
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That is a flawed scoring system then because if you are truly evaluating the individual players then they should be evaluated and given a point total and then a schools overall ranking should be done by simply adding together the total number of points for their class and averaging for the number of players in their class. Giving bonus points I think is wrong, if the athlete is good enough to be ranked as one of the best at his position then his average ranking should account for this alone without going back and giving bonus to the school that signs him. Also, I would still like to know specifically what the backgrounds are and the names of the evaluators to determine for myself whether they are credible. I think if the recruiting sites did this it would lend more credibility to the system. I would also like the evaluators to disclose what if any personal relationships they have with various coaches or programs as it has been raised before by college coaches that some of these guys are less than credible and may skew their rankings to benefit friends or programs that they have a personal relationship with(i.e. Tom Lemming and Bill Callahan). You better be careful though grunkiejr(aka RabidGopher) as I don't want you to get in trouble again from the gang at Rivals for revealing to much of their info as one GI poster stated "to make yourself look smart on the GH board."
 


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