GopherSports: Leidner's Drive is Unparalleled

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Tackle4loss said:
you are correct. the kid did what coaches asked him to do. one more thing: there is no excuse for anything called leidner island and it got weird how some felt compelled to defend the poor play of a college football player.
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That's not really what is happening. Most everyone agrees he isn't a great QB. He makes mistakes. The point many are trying to make is that he also isn't as bad as some make him out to be. The problem is some think that if you defend anything about him, then that means you think he is a great QB.

You can like a player even if they make many mistakes.
 

GophersInIowa said:
That's not really what is happening. Most everyone agrees he isn't a great QB. He makes mistakes. The point many are trying to make is that he also isn't as bad as some make him out to be. The problem is some think that if you defend anything about him, then that means you think he is a great QB.

You can like a player even if they make many mistakes.
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He is a mediocre player and his play doesn't deserve anything beyond mediocre responses. Tipping it either way always appears like the poster is too condemning or too apologetic.
 

Some guy said:
Well a little over a million people played football last year. So unless you think less than 20% of them gave it their all, then yes, literally hundreds of thousands gave it their all.
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Mitch clearly gave more effort than Phil Nelson, Streveler, McKinzy, Perra, and Croft. You either have to believe that, or acknowledge that Mitch has more natural QB talent than the other guys on the list.
 

Tackle4loss said:
He is a mediocre player and his play doesn't deserve anything beyond mediocre responses. Tipping it either way always appears like the poster is too condemning or too apologetic.
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I don't even know what that means. Are you saying you can't say anything like "that was a great play by Leidner" or "Leidner played well today"?
 

GophersInIowa said:
I don't even know what that means. Are you saying you can't say anything like "that was a great play by Leidner" or "Leidner played well today"?
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i'm indifferent to mediocre players. please allow me to have my own opinion.
 


Tackle4loss said:
He is a mediocre player and his play doesn't deserve anything beyond mediocre responses. Tipping it either way always appears like the poster is too condemning or too apologetic.
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It's interesting that many think the QB is the problem with our offense. Look at Wisconsin in passing offense over the past four years...can't say their QBs have been better performers than Mitch.
 

John Galt said:
Mitch clearly gave more effort than Phil Nelson, Streveler, McKinzy, Perra, and Croft. You either have to believe that, or acknowledge that Mitch has more natural QB talent than the other guys on the list.
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I didn't say he didn't work harder than some guys. I said there are hundreds of thousands of guys who work hard.

He does have more natural talent than at least 4 out of the 5 guys you listed
 

Some guy said:
I didn't say he didn't work harder than some guys. I said there are hundreds of thousands of guys who work hard.

He does have more natural talent than at least 4 out of the 5 guys you listed
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OK, who is the one...?
 











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