- Nov 20, 2008
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I mean Illinois is clearly at the bottom and will be bottom 2-3 for the next 3-5The West is going to be a tossup most years as there are a bunch of teams that are all good and have a shot to win it. I would bet if you drilled down deeper into these picks there would be very little separation between the teams.
Not only did he get 1 first place vote but he also got some other votes as well since he ended up with 13 total points. Don't know how the scoring was setup but Morgan also got 1 first place vote and only ended up with 3.5 points total.
JUST TWO FIRST ROUND PICKS, A FIFTH ROUND PICK, AND EIGHT FREE AGENTS. PLUS TRANSFERS TO Auburn, Arizona, UCF, GaTech and Temple. PLUS THEIR LONG TIME HIGHLY REGARDED DEFENSIVE COORDINATO AND AthDir:Although I think Northwestern lost a lot of guys didn't they? Nobody seems to be thinking about that (unless I'm wrong and they didn't lose many guys).
Honestly, I'd take once in a blue moon...Pretty much the general consensus although a small number of media sources are picking them third. Until the Gophers manage to beat Iowa and Wisconsin more often than once in a blue moon, I can't see any media sources picking them higher than third in the division.
Michican't 4th in the East and 1 picked on the list? I hope they are going the way of Nerdbraska. I know these are only preseason and mean next to nothing, but the perception is there.per Johnson:
Here are the results of the Cleveland.com poll:
Big Ten West
1. Wisconsin (29 first-place votes) 233 points
2. Iowa (5) 202
3. Northwestern 160
4. Gophers 146
5. Nebraska 91.5
6. Purdue 72.5
7. Illinois 47
Big Ten East
1. Ohio State (34 first-place votes) 238
2. Penn State 192
3. Indiana 169
4. Michigan 144
5. Maryland 79
6. Rutgers 77.5
7. Michigan State 52.5
Big Ten Championship Game
Ohio State over Wisconsin (29)
Ohio State over Iowa (5)
Preseason Offensive Player of the Year
1. Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State (11 first-place votes) 58 points
2. Michael Penix Jr., QB, Indiana (8) 44.5
3. Mohamed Ibrahim, RB, Gophers (4) 36
4. Tyler Linderbaum, C, Iowa (1) 13
5. Garrett Wilson, WR, Ohio State (1) 12
6. David Bell, WR, Purdue (1) 10
7 (tie). C.J. Stroud, QB, Ohio State (2) 6
7 (tie). Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State (1) 6
7 (tie). Graham Mertz, QB, Wisconsin (1) 6
10. Tyler Goodson, RB, Iowa (1) 5
11. Ty Fryfogle, WR, Indiana (1) 4
12. Tanner Morgan, QB, Gophers (1) 3.5
Preseason Defensive Player of the Year
1. Brandon Joseph, S, Northwestern (11 first-place votes) 49 points
2. George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue (8) 33
3. Haskell Garrett, DT, Ohio State (5) 30.5
4. Micah McFadden, LB, Indiana (6) 28
5. Olakunle Fatukasi, LB, Rutgers (3) 18
6. Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan 11
7 (tie). Jack Sanborn, LB, Wisconsin 7
7 (tie). Tiawan Mullen, CB, Indiana (1) 7
9. Zach Harrison, DE, Ohio State 3.5
10 (tie). Jaquan Brisker, S, Penn State 3
10 (tie). Sevyn Banks, CB, Ohio State 3
12 (tie). Boye Mafe, DE, Gophers 2
12 (tie). Chris Bergin, LB, Northwestern 2
12 (tie). Cam Taylor-Britt, CB, Nebraska 2
12 (tie). Jake Hansen, LB, Illinois 2
16 (tie). JoJo Domann, S/LB, Nebraska 1
16 (tie). Tyshon Fogg, LB, Rutgers 1
16 (tie). Owen Carney, LB, Illinois 1
Minnesota will get a chance to make a statement when it opens the season with a home game against Ohio State on Sept. 2.www.startribune.com
Behind Northwestern, Iowa, Wisconsin.
Not really that surprising, B1G West has a lot of good teams.
Although I think Northwestern lost a lot of guys didn't they? Nobody seems to be thinking about that (unless I'm wrong and they didn't lose many guys).
Hopefully will mean the day trip I'm planning for the Wildcats game will be exciting...for a while...before Gophs pull away.If you look at the vote totals, there isn't much daylight between the totals of the Northwestern and Minnesota votes. There are much bigger differences between the #2 Iowa and #3 Northwestern totals and an even bigger difference between the #4 Gopher total and #5 Nebraska total. It's at least comforting to know that the poll participants are estimating Minnesota to be better than Nebraska by a pretty wide margin. That's a development that took some time in the making.
TYJUST TWO FIRST ROUND PICKS, A FIFTH ROUND PICK, AND EIGHT FREE AGENTS. PLUS TRANSFERS TO Auburn, Arizona, UCF, GaTech and Temple. PLUS THEIR LONG TIME HIGHLY REGARDED DEFENSIVE COORDINATO AND AthDir:
First round picks Rashawn Slater and Greg Newsome only had to wait a few hours to hear their names called in Cleveland, and Earnest Brown IV had to wait until Saturday, as the defensive lineman was selected in the fifth round by the Los Angeles Rams. However, not all of the former Wildcats were lucky enough to receive the call last weekend. Although they did not get selected, eight Northwestern alumni thus far have been signed post-draft and will still have the chance to battle for a roster spot this fall as undrafted free agents.
Paddy Fisher: LB, Carolina PanthersOne of the NU players that was widely predicted to be drafted, the three-year captain surprisingly didn’t hear his name called, and now heads to Carolina.
Blake Gallagher: LB, Baltimore Ravens Northwestern’s team leader in total tackles could find himself on the active roster in September via strong special teams play, but will probably not play linebacker soon.
Riley Lees: WR, Cincinnati BengalsLees saw his yardage and reception numbers both cut in half last season, but his speed and special teams ability drew the interest of the Bengals.
JR Pace: DB, Atlanta FalconsThe senior defensive back is headed back to his hometown team as a UDFA, where he’ll compete for a roster spot among a very young cornerback group.
John Raine: TE, Atlanta FalconsRaine joins the aforementioned Pace in Atlanta, where he has a decent shot at get a chance to carve out a role on special teams or goal-line scenarios.
Peyton Ramsey: QB, Carolina PanthersThe ‘Cats former QB1 faces an uphill battle to land on the Panthers’ roster at the most important position. Carolina traded for the Jets’ Sam Darnold a month ago
Gunnar Vogel: OL, Chicago BearsLastly comes Gunnar Vogel, who will travel only a 15 mile trip down to his new home at Soldier Field.
[UPDATE] Ramaud Chiaokhiao-Bowman: WR, Indianapolis ColtsAfter a couple of days’ worth of tweets were sent by Northwestern faifthful arguing in favor of the team’s top receiver from the 2020 season, RCB has finally been given a shot by an NFL team, earring a minicamp tryout with the Indianapolis Colts today on May 5, 2021.
Yeah I'm ok with being at the bottom of the ... pretty much same vote totals logjam. That means a few plays and you're near the top too.If you look at the vote totals, there isn't much daylight between the totals of the Northwestern and Minnesota votes. There are much bigger differences between the #2 Iowa and #3 Northwestern totals and an even bigger difference between the #4 Gopher total and #5 Nebraska total. It's at least comforting to know that the poll participants are estimating Minnesota to be better than Nebraska by a pretty wide margin. That's a development that took some time in the making.
There has been a general assumption that all teams are going to be in great shape roster wise due to how things have played out but this is a perfect illustration of how things are going to differ by team. That is a lot of talent to replace. On the flip side we lost very little and brought back a significant amount in terms of guys who had opted out or were injured along with transfers.Iowa loses Golston, Nixon and Heflin...three starters off d-line...to NFL
Iowa loses three olinemen: Banwart, Cronk, Alaric Jackson to NFL...OL Fenske to Colorado and OL Kallenberger passed on another year
two good WRs, SmithMarsette and Smith gone to NFL...another transfers to NE
te Beyer leaves to NFL
rb Sargent to NFL
lb Niemann was drafted, lb Wade free agent, another lb, Colbert, called it quits
db Brents to KSU
the really good kicker Duncan is done
13 NFL quality players plus three decent transfers is tough to replace
the legendary strength coach is gone due to the racism...lawsuit still hanging over entire program
good oline coach left for an OC job; good rb coach got an NFL job; no Goph coaches left
Iowa recruiting 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021: 39, 41, 35, 24
Minn recruiting 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021: 38, 45, 38, 38 (in 2021, one year we lagged way behind, we brought in seven high end transfers)
no Minnesota team has ever lost to Iowa seven straight years...
Gophs almost had them beat in Iowa City in 2015 (40-35) when they were top 5, almost beat them in Iowa City in 2017 (17-10) and again in 2019 at Kinnick (23-19); will beat them there in 2021
There has been a general assumption that all teams are going to be in great shape roster wise due to how things have played out but this is a perfect illustration of how things are going to differ by team. That is a lot of talent to replace. On the flip side we lost very little and brought back a significant amount in terms of guys who had opted out or were injured along with transfers.
Don't get me wrong, the two guys we lost were extremely good players, but I would much rather be in our position than what a lot of teams are dealing with.