Gophers new co-DC’s: Kevin Cosgrove and Ronnie Lee – how would YOU rate this hire?

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sonnygarcia said:
parkinglotgopher said:
Plus, he possesses a long track record of developing outstanding defenses.QUOTE]

He is obviously aware of what happened in Nebraska........ how do you think one could look past that and say the aforementioned quote with a straight face??????

I'm not just saying this either, I would like someone to respond with some thoughts......
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Sonny, judging from the fact that UNC hired Withers after he was DC for a defense that finished dead last out of 119, it looks like some coaches can look at the facts behind the statistics and make a decision. I don't think UNC is unhappy with their hire.
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GophersInIowa said:
Wow, now that was funny!

Do this for me, click on the link you just provided, go to 2001 statistics, then total defense. Look at the column that is the 4th farthest from the right. That is the column for "Ydspgm" which stands for yards per game. Now look down that column. Does it look like a pattern there? It goes down from the lowest to highest which means the "overall/total defense" rankings uses, you guessed it, yardage allowed!!! Man was that tough.
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Ha! Classic. The much-vaunted GopherGod currently taking his ball and going home.
 

GophersInIowa said:
haha, and he was acting like I was stupid.
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I did misinterpret the data as I was looking at it to quickly. We all make mistakes after all, just look at your wife in the bathroom at the metrodome during the Iowa game.
 

dpodoll68 said:
I bought season tickets last year for the first time since I was an undergrad, solely so I could be guaranteed seats in the new stadium. The sad part is that now I'm not even sure whether I'm going to get season tix for 2009. I hate to have such a defeatist attitude, but I mean, c'mon. Look at the guy's track record...
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Vote on the worst post of the day!

Candidates:

1) dpodoll68: saying he might drop his tickets for the new stadium because of the Cosgrove hire (see above quote)

2) GopherGod: "I see now why you live in Iowa, the rankings that I provided were OVERALL/TOTAL defensive rankings and not just yardage allowed."
 


Hey, D-bagtowner, why don't you play a lengthy game of hide and go f**k yourself?

Seriously, what the hell is your problem?
 

GopherGod said:
I did misinterpret the data as I was looking at it to quickly. We all make mistakes after all, just look at your wife in the bathroom at the metrodome during the Iowa game.
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Yep, we all do make mistakes but I wouldn't start calling me out for being wrong about the stats if you're "looking at it quickly."

You do realize that I am a Gophers fan, don't you? Was born and raised in MN and just moved down here last year for a job.
 

GophersInIowa said:
Yep, we all do make mistakes but I wouldn't start calling me out for being wrong about the stats if you're "looking at it quickly."

You do realize that I am a Gophers fan, don't you? Was born and raised in MN and just moved down here last year for a job.
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You are 100% correct and I apologize for the comment it was uncalled for and a classless act on my part. At the end of the day I need to remember that while we may disagree on minor points we all just want the best for the gopher program. My sincere apologies.
 

Geez Gopher God. The guys got it tough enough having to live amongst Hawkeye fans and you take a shot at his wife. Well it was awfully big of you to apologize. Kudos on that.
 





Kevin Cosgrove in Maroon and Gold. I like it.

parkinglotgopher said:
It's been officially announced that Kevin Cosgrove is the new co-defensive coordinator.

As rumored, there has also been an internal promotion. Some thought it would be Tim Cross, but it is actually Ronnie Lee who has been promoted to co-defensive coordinator, joining Cosgrove at the top of the defensive coaching staff.

Official (canned / press release) quotes from Brewster:

“We are very excited to announce Kevin Cosgrove as our new co-defensive coordinator,” Brewster said. “Coach Cosgrove brings a wealth of experience in the Big Ten as both a coach and recruiter. Plus, he possesses a long track record of developing outstanding defenses. But, perhaps more importantly, Kevin is a great person and an outstanding fit on our staff.

“Ronnie Lee has done a tremendous job since joining our staff here at Minnesota,” Brewster added. “I’m very pleased to reward him with this promotion. Ronnie has proven himself to be an excellent coach and recruiter. I look forward to him having an expanded role on our defensive staff.”

http://www.forums.gopherhole.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=930
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I am OK with Kevin Cosgrove. I couldn't stand Kevin when ESPN / ABC would pan him on the sidelines during battles for the Axe. He personified everything I did not like about Wisconsin. Good to have him on our side now. May he coach for the Golden Gopher Football Team for many decades to come! Welcome aboard Mr. Cosgrove!
 

A 1 year contract

I see that he was signed to just a one-year contract according to the startribune. Maybe Brewster and Maturi aren't exactly sold on him either, talk about a resounding show of confidence from your new boss.


"I know very well what Kevin brings to the plate," Brewster said Friday after signing Cosgrove to a one-year, $300,000 contract.
 



GopherGod said:
I see that he was signed to just a one-year contract according to the startribune. Maybe Brewster and Maturi aren't exactly sold on him either, talk about a resounding show of confidence from your new boss.


"I know very well what Kevin brings to the plate," Brewster said Friday after signing Cosgrove to a one-year, $300,000 contract.
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Does it really matter? No matter how long the contract was, people would complain about it. If we gave him a 4-year contract instead you and others would be complaining that it's too long of a contract and that Brewster should see how Cosgrove does this year before giving him a long-term contact.

I understand you're are not really thrilled with the hire. Personally, I'm neutral right now; I'll give him a chance this next year before I get too excited or disappointed with the hire. But you're just trying to find every little thing you can to use against him. You could do that with every coach that has ever been hired.
 

I think you can read into the one year a bit. The two points that I think are important are, can he succeed against the spread. And is this an interim job? Is it a stop gap hire while the solidify the O and develop Ronnie Lee, with the win for Cosgrove a chance for redemption.

It could also be that the agreement is for a better contract once he proves he is a fit and can succeed against the spread. It may be his doing and not ours.


Or it could simply be that they wanted to announce as quickly as they could and a one year deal was the fastest way to do that.


So it probably does have meaning. But what? it's not so clear.
 

Schnoodler said:
I think you can read into the one year a bit. The two points that I think are important are, can he succeed against the spread. And is this an interim job? Is it a stop gap hire while the solidify the O and develop Ronnie Lee, with the win for Cosgrove a chance for redemption.

It could also be that the agreement is for a better contract once he proves he is a fit and can succeed against the spread. It may be his doing and not ours.


Or it could simply be that they wanted to announce as quickly as they could and a one year deal was the fastest way to do that.


So it probably does have meaning. But what? it's not so clear.
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Exactly, you can't assume it's because Brewster doesn't have a lot of confidence in him. There could be a lot of reasons why it was only a one year contract.
 

It seems like any disgust over the Cosgrove hire is based almost entirely on Nebraska's disasterous 2007 season (and the reaction of their fans).

Also, some Gopher fans freak out if there is a perception that we may be getting sloppy-seconds from the Badgers. But I still don't understand why he left UW. It sounds like he an BB just didn't get along as well as he got along with BA.

I would have prefered that a DC who was let go from NE and/or WI put in a few years as a positions coach with MN before being considered for a larger role. But there is a lack of evidence that suggests he has had a bad career.

If you forget Nebraska's impolsion in 2007, he has been a decent DC elsewhere. We all had high expectations. Perhaps too high. Especially considering that we want someone who will stay for multiple seasons. If he had come here directly from the Badgers (instead of going to NE) we all would have felt like we stole the guy.
 



Dear God, kevin cosgrove ?

Here I was going to buy Gophers FB Season Tickets. DODGED THAT BULLET !

I live in MN and go to every home game that doesn't conflict with NE's schedule.

(I played FB for Nebraska, still have Cornhusker season tickets and rarely miss a game)

kevin cosgrove almost ruined the entire sport for me with his absolutely HORRIFIC coaching; I'm talking preparation, schemes, lack of adjustments - the whole package.

WORST DEFENSE IN NEBRASKA FOOTBALL HISTORY !

He should be jailed for crimes against Football.

Good luck Gophers, you're going to need it. Maybe it will work out in the big 11.
 

I live in Big XII Country and Cosgrove was a joke against anything other than the "straight T," "winged T" or "Single Wing." The press (and even the players after the games - see Chase McDaniel at Mizzou) down here seemed to always comment that (apparently his ego was so large) he never made changes at the half. Therefore his defense always performed worse in the second half. I am afraid we are in for a rough ride if he is REALLY in charge of the D. The good news is that no one in the Big 10 run the Spread like they do in the Big XII!
 

Average career at best - having friends is better than performing @ the highest level

But there is a lack of evidence that suggests he has had a bad career.


cosgrove's defenses consistently are bottom 70 througout his career
 

GopherGod said:
“I’m thrilled to be back in the Big Ten,” Cosgrove said. “I’m definitely excited about the opportunity to work with Tim Brewster and an outstanding A.D. in Joel Maturi at the University of Minnesota. I’m very familiar with Minnesota. I always felt that this program had great potential and I’m glad to have the opportunity to work here.”

Translates to thanks buddies for giving me a job when no other BCS program would give me the time of time.
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Without coz' buddies he wouldn't be coaching above the HS level.

How the Viking's were ever tempted proves to me that something is not quite right in the MN sports scene.
 

MN Corn Nation said:
Here I was going to buy Gophers FB Season Tickets. DODGED THAT BULLET !

I live in MN and go to every home game that doesn't conflict with NE's schedule.

(I played FB for Nebraska, still have Cornhusker season tickets and rarely miss a game)

kevin cosgrove almost ruined the entire sport for me with his absolutely HORRIFIC coaching; I'm talking preparation, schemes, lack of adjustments - the whole package.

WORST DEFENSE IN NEBRASKA FOOTBALL HISTORY !

He should be jailed for crimes against Football.

Good luck Gophers, you're going to need it. Maybe it will work out in the big 11.
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Do you seriously live in a corn field or something? You're about a month late.
 

Hmmm...I used to think Dinkytowner was a little paranoid with his attempts to tie new posters to existing posters (he could have called it pin the tail on the troll). But a month after this thread was actually in use 2 brand new posters from Big 12 country put all of their first new posts in this thread. And look at this:

MN Corn Nation said:
Here I was going to buy Gophers FB Season Tickets. DODGED THAT BULLET !

I live in MN and go to every home game that doesn't conflict with NE's schedule.

(I played FB for Nebraska, still have Cornhusker season tickets and rarely miss a game)

kevin cosgrove almost ruined the entire sport for me with his absolutely HORRIFIC coaching; I'm talking preparation, schemes, lack of adjustments - the whole package.

WORST DEFENSE IN NEBRASKA FOOTBALL HISTORY !

He should be jailed for crimes against Football.

Good luck Gophers, you're going to need it. Maybe it will work out in the big 11.
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TexasGopher said:
I live in Big XII Country and Cosgrove was a joke against anything other than the "straight T," "winged T" or "Single Wing." The press (and even the players after the games - see Chase McDaniel at Mizzou) down here seemed to always comment that (apparently his ego was so large) he never made changes at the half. Therefore his defense always performed worse in the second half. I am afraid we are in for a rough ride if he is REALLY in charge of the D. The good news is that no one in the Big 10 run the Spread like they do in the Big XII!
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These two FIRST POSTS from anti-Cosgrove posters came just 2 minutes apart. I'm LMAO at the silly trollishness on display here. What are the chances of a Nebraska lurker and a Texas lurker dropping in for their 1st posts just 2 minutes apart? Yea... :p :p :p
 

GoAUpher said:
Hmmm...I used to think Dinkytowner was a little paranoid with his attempts to tie new posters to existing posters (he could have called it pin the tail on the troll). But a month after this thread was actually in use 2 brand new posters from Big 12 country put all of their first new posts in this thread. And look at this:





These two FIRST POSTS from anti-Cosgrove posters came just 2 minutes apart. I'm LMAO at the silly trollishness on display here. What are the chances of a Nebraska lurker and a Texas lurker dropping in for their 1st posts just 2 minutes apart? Yea... :p :p :p
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It's not that unusual - this message board was just linked from the Huskerpedia.com main site because Cosgrove finally spoke about his time at Nebraska.

I'm a California Husker that witnessed BC and Cosgrove dismantle the Nebraska program, and I can tell you that while Cosgrove might be an improvement for your program, he is not a championship caliber coach. I'm not talking about winning the Little 11, but a true title.

Nebraska's defense in 2007 looked lost on the field. Cosgrove routinely threw his players under the bus, and he, to this day, refuses to take any responsibility for the travesty that was the 2007 Nebraska defense. The Husker defenders talk about how much more they like the schemes of Pelini and how much better prepared they are under Pelini's coaching as compared to Cosgrove's and BC's.

As far as Cosgrove saying he never experienced negativity while at Wisconsin - he's just flat-out lying. When Nebraska hired Cosgrove, my Badger buddy thanked me for getting him out of Wisconsin and warned me that it would be bad. He'll probably do okay in the tradition-rich (read: slow and not innovative) Little 11 with its power rush offenses. I fear for your team when they play a spread offense, though.
 

SacramentoHusker said:
I'm not talking about winning the Little 11, but a true title.

He'll probably do okay in the tradition-rich (read: slow and not innovative) Little 11 with its power rush offenses. I fear for your team when they play a spread offense, though.
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FWIW... You have precisely ZERO credibility with ANYONE here if you refer to the conference as the 'Little 11'. Do you honestly think someone will read that and take you seriously? Even a little? You might as well put an "auto-ignore" button on your post.

Free clues! Come get yours!
 

MilesTones said:
FWIW... You have precisely ZERO credibility with ANYONE here if you refer to the conference as the 'Little 11'. Do you honestly think someone will read that and take you seriously? Even a little? You might as well put an "auto-ignore" button on your post.

Free clues! Come get yours!
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FWIW, you can't a joke. Your conference can't count, and, last I checked, it's pretty little when it comes to making a splash in college football. Hence, it's the Little 11. It's not my fault that three individual Big 12 teams have won more titles in the last 40 years than the entire Little 11 combined.
 

Flush SacramentoHusker...in fact double flush!!!!!!! See ya, big turd.
 

Dr.Don said:
Flush SacramentoHusker...in fact double flush!!!!!!! See ya, big turd.
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No skin off my nose. Don't shoot the messenger - I'm just telling you how it is. I would think you Gopher fans would want to hear the truth rather than burying your heads in the sand. No biggie, though. I'll be back when you fire him and see what you say then.
 

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