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Baseball could be fixed with a salary cap. If owners are willing to endure an extended lock out, like possibly an entire season, it will happen. It needs to happen. The Dodgers outspending the other 29 teams in the off-season combined is not a successful model for long term success for the sport. The NBA is growing because parity and a salary structure that is punishing for exceeding limits. NFL same thing. MLB and specifically the MN Twins situation, is beyond pathetic.
 

Harrymannback77 said:
Baseball could be fixed with a salary cap. If owners are willing to endure an extended lock out, like possibly an entire season, it will happen. It needs to happen. The Dodgers outspending the other 29 teams in the off-season combined is not a successful model for long term success for the sport. The NBA is growing because parity and a salary structure that is punishing for exceeding limits. NFL same thing. MLB and specifically the MN Twins situation, is beyond pathetic.
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This is interesting to me.
Because in principle I agree

But functionally MLB has more parity than the NFL
But that has more to do with the importance of the QB position than the financial structure
 

Idk...on the bright side we didn't trade Joe Ryan but my gosh...we did just dump 10 players. Other than dumping salary we go sooo little in return. We got a career minor league 26 year old pitcher, with a career minor league era over 6 runs for Correa. The other guys in other trades are similar pedigree...the 12th best prospect within somebody's organization was a common description.
People calling Duran the best closer in baseball, under contract at an affordable number for a couple more seasons to the budget conscious Twins....but we get the 5th best prospect from the Phillies....a 170 pound 5'8 catcher. What the heck were we doing other than unloading as much salary as possible?

A prospective new owner...there can't be one...if there is, he is a timid soul or dumb.
 



Some guy said:
This is interesting to me.
Because in principle I agree

But functionally MLB has more parity than the NFL
But that has more to do with the importance of the QB position than the financial structure
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Yeah, it's definitely interesting. I sense a lock out at the end of this CBA, which I think is after next season??? I'll have to look it up, but it feels like it's on the horizon.
 





60's Guy said:
Idk...on the bright side we didn't trade Joe Ryan but my gosh...we did just dump 10 players. Other than dumping salary we go sooo little in return. We got a career minor league 26 year old pitcher, with a career minor league era over 6 runs for Correa. The other guys in other trades are similar pedigree...the 12th best prospect within somebody's organization was a common description.
People calling Duran the best closer in baseball, under contract at an affordable number for a couple more seasons to the budget conscious Twins....but we get the 5th best prospect from the Phillies....a 170 pound 5'8 catcher. What the heck were we doing other than unloading as much salary as possible?

A prospective new owner...there can't be one...if there is, he is a timid soul or dumb.
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That catcher is not 5'8 170. He is 6'0 190 today, and a universal top 50 prospect in Baseball who is raking at high A ball as an 18 year old. I don't expect you or anyone else to know this, so I don't mean to sound condescending, just letting you know.

And since baseball is my thing, and if people are interested, I could give you an HONEST rundown of each guy. The haul was not that bad, could it have been better, yes, but don't forget you need willing partners. I would have preferred Ford from Seattle for catchers, but we also got an outstanding arm in Abel with Tait, so hard to complain. We were never getting Painter from Philly. He is a top 5 prospect, and Minnesota received the second highest prospect traded during the deadline from them in Tait, so again, not bad.

If any of the trades felt like the Pohlads were sticking their fingers directly into your eye socket and laughing, for me, it's Varland. He is a stud, from Minnesota, with 6, count em, 6 years of control left. Costs nothing, FIP under 3.00. Absolutely without question though, we got back a stud in Kendry Rojas. Rojas is in AAA, and really just needs to keep stretching out. He has filthy stuff, and sports a 7:1 k/bb ratio. Yes, he has a slider fastball combo that's ready, he needs to work his third offering into a plus pitch and most importantly, he needs innings. Id send him to AFL this season for sure. He is close.

But for me, the real sleeper is Gallagher, from the Cubs. I have friends in that organization and despite the fact you might see him as the 6-8th prospect for the Cubs, he is much more highly regarded within the organization. He is potentially, Joe Ryan (when we got him originally, not today's version)2.0, almost to a tee. He has a couple more ticks than Joe, and is equally deceptive with his delivery. His changeup is devastating, think Brad Radke/ Johan Santana. He has exceptional control, a whip around 1.00 and has blown away 100 guys in about 80 innings so far this year. As a pitcher myself, I love this guy. He is probably today, a 3-5 in a rotation in another year or so. But his arc keeps going up, he keeps adding velocity, and the Twins are very good at adding a couple mph with guys and probably more important, we are Sweeper University. If you want to learn the secrets of the Sweeper,lol, no team does it better than us. He also has a decent slider that could sharpen up a little, it's not bad by any means, but if he wants to take that Ryan leap from backend to frontline, it needs more depth and I have no doubt they know it, see it, and have a plan in place. Also, to show the depth we have on the farm, this guy is 16th in the Twins organization. That's fucking crazy to me. He is really good and at AA. Great deal for an expiring like Wili.

The trading of all those guys sucks, the Pohlads are Satan and I won't give one cent to this team until they are sold. But we are loaded with pitching and middle infield depth, have minimal long term money other than Lopez and Buxton, who are dirt cheap by the way. And this should be very appealing for the next owner. They'll have tons of prospect capital to play with and clean books, a chance to finally reset the culture within the organization, because it's broke, big time. And me personally, as much as yesterday stung, im looking forward to a clean start, top to bottom. Like the Vikings after McCombs or the Wolves now after Taylor. I'm actually excited when I really think about it. Fingers crossed for that sale.
 

Harrymannback77 said:
Baseball could be fixed with a salary cap. If owners are willing to endure an extended lock out, like possibly an entire season, it will happen. It needs to happen. The Dodgers outspending the other 29 teams in the off-season combined is not a successful model for long term success for the sport. The NBA is growing because parity and a salary structure that is punishing for exceeding limits. NFL same thing. MLB and specifically the MN Twins situation, is beyond pathetic.
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As SG said, I agree with you in principle.

So I'm just wondering, what is your response to European professional soccer leagues? As far as I know, they don't have caps and a few teams dominate the spending. But they remain very popular.

Apples to oranges? I'd probably agree, just want to know your reasoning
 

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