Perhaps yes but the rope is shorter and it's on fire. These things take time and that large injection you mention isnt usually sustainable. Yes Oregon is a good example but how many could we name on the other side of the fence who failed.
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Perhaps yes but the rope is shorter and it's on fire. These things take time and that large injection you mention isnt usually sustainable. Yes Oregon is a good example but how many could we name on the other side of the fence who failed.
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Oregon's rise to the top wasn't as fast as you think. Under Rich Brooks they had twelve consecutive years of futility ('77 to '88), with a maximum of 6 wins per year. Then he took them to 4 Bowls the next 6 years, including the Rose Bowl in '94. They really weren't competitive until the early 90's. Once they were competitive Nike started throwing the money at them and they were able to establish and maintain their excellence. It is a good success story, however, and shows the effect money can have on a program. It's interesting to note, however, that all their other sports, except track, still suck.
Oregon's rise to the top wasn't as fast as you think. Under Rich Brooks they had twelve consecutive years of futility ('77 to '88), with a maximum of 6 wins per year. Then he took them to 4 Bowls the next 6 years, including the Rose Bowl in '94. They really weren't competitive until the early 90's. Once they were competitive Nike started throwing the money at them and they were able to establish and maintain their excellence. It is a good success story, however, and shows the effect money can have on a program. It's interesting to note, however, that all their other sports, except track, still suck.
MsplHawk - google can get you to the TUlsa World's Article on July 25, 2010, complete with database, which has, among other things, figures for avg. recruiting budgets for football from 2005-2009. If you type in USA Today 2009 Football Coaches Contracts, you get to a database of 2009 salaries paid to head and assistant D-1 football coaches.
Jeshurun - When Dunbar was hired he was given a 3-year contract, quite unusual by Big Ten standards, with the 3rd year at $270,000. When Brew figured out after year 2 that he wasn't a spread guy, though Dunbar was, Dunbar was let go/reassigned in the athletic dept, and still got his $270,000.
Jeshurun - When Dunbar was hired he was given a 3-year contract, quite unusual by Big Ten standards, with the 3rd year at $270,000. When Brew figured out after year 2 that he wasn't a spread guy, though Dunbar was, Dunbar was let go/reassigned in the athletic dept, and still got his $270,000.
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It just seems to me that we need to look at the other schools and see what they are doing with the money. If it's just more for the head coaches that's one thing, if they have a bigger staff, or meaningful facility upgrades, or prorgram upgrades, i think that's really relevant.
I think there's a real lack of looking at football like a business. If they did, I think they'd see a business that underperforms it's peers (wiscy and Iowa) in a bigger market. Once they looked at it in that light, a business plan with investment would obviously follow.
We should be able to replicate the more successful programs with confidence that we will have better revenues when we do.
I think there's a real lack of looking at football like a business. If they did, I think they'd see a business that underperforms it's peers (wiscy and Iowa) in a bigger market. Once they looked at it in that light, a business plan with investment would obviously follow.
We should be able to replicate the more successful programs with confidence that we will have better revenues when we do.
Looking at it like a business would have meant not firing Mason with his $2.2 million buyout, and not firing Mike Dunbar with his $270K salary. Dunbar's 270K would have covered an extra assistant strength coach for 4 years.
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No that's incorrect. Mason and Dunbar are akin to money losing divisions. You don't continue operating them in the red just because you formed the divisions and spent capital on them. The fact that you spent the money already doens't justify losing even more. You recognize their negative impact on the bottom line and cut the losses and search for better revenue results. Those were good business moves, as was the stadium. The U is getting it, but slowly. It's time to make the full committement.