Gophers are #1 in the country in assists

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That is a nice stat and worthy of a slap on the back. Also, look at where we land in rebounding so that we are brought back to earth... And we've been playing a few scrubs as of late...what's gonna happen when we take on the "athletic" teams? We've got to improve our rebounding stat.

Sorry for changing the topic, however.

Back to the assists...Great job!!!
 

Thought it would be interesting to compare the assist numbers broken down by the quality of the opponents.

Total assists/games = 197/10 = 19.7 apg

Assists per game vs. the 6 non-Power 6 opponents = 23.3
Assists per game vs. the 4 Power 6 opponents (Louisville, Saint John's, Georgia, Wake Forest) = 14.25
 

SelectionSunday said:
Thought it would be interesting to compare the assist numbers broken down by the quality of the opponents.

Total assists/games = 197/10 = 19.7 apg

Assists per game vs. the 6 non-Power 6 opponents = 23.3
Assists per game vs. the 4 Power 6 opponents (Louisville, Saint John's, Georgia, Wake Forest) = 14.25
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I know you're not trivializing it, but that kind of analysis would only be relevant if you compared it to everyone else under the same pretenses.

Power 6 v Power 6 where are we ranked?
Power 6 vs non Power 6 where are we ranked?

Also...

We are #2 in Steals per game, which i think is equally important.

These will be the building blocks that Pitino will run this program on. Assists, Steals, 3 Pointers
 

Winasota Gopher said:
I know you're not trivializing it, but that kind of analysis would only be relevant if you compared it to everyone else under the same pretenses.

Power 6 v Power 6 where are we ranked?
Power 6 vs non Power 6 where are we ranked?

Also...

We are #2 in Steals per game, which i think is equally important.

These will be the building blocks that Pitino will run this program on. Assists, Steals, 3 Pointers
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Good points. The bottom line is that we are leading the country in assists which means we are moving the ball and sharing it. Louisville and St Johns were two teams that just wouldn't let you get in the paint without blocking your shot or fouling you- two really athletic squads that play above the rim- so we had trouble getting the scoring and the assists.

Right now- our home schedule has been terrible, just awful SS is right on that. But our overall schedule is not that bad and everyone is playing patsies right now so to lead the country in that category, while not an indicator that we are going to the final four, is an indicator that things are going in the right direction in terms of playing as a team.
 


tinyarch said:
That is a nice stat and worthy of a slap on the back. Also, look at where we land in rebounding so that we are brought back to earth... And we've been playing a few scrubs as of late...what's gonna happen when we take on the "athletic" teams? We've got to improve our rebounding stat.

Sorry for changing the topic, however.

Back to the assists...Great job!!!
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Athletically, St Johns and Louisville are superior to any team we will see in the Big10 outside of Ohio State. Those two teams were bad match ups for us.
 

bga1 said:
Right now- our home schedule has been terrible, just awful SS is right on that.
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Prior to the season, I can't imagine that I would have thought this, but I'm glad we have six weak teams in a row. It gives the coach a chance to experiment with different lineups on the floor and it gives Bakary and Buggs (and even Shell) more minutes without much risk. I hope there are a couple of these games left if and when Gaston joins the team.

At this point, the non-conference schedule is irrelevant (unless we would lose one of those last three games). This season it's always been about how well the team can perform in conference play. Based on the vulnerability of some conference teams displayed in pre-conference play, I'm a little less concerned than I was two weeks ago. We might be playing patsies but at least we're not losing to them at home.
 

Also we're:

3rd in the nation for field goals
2nd in the nation for steals
6th in the nation for total points scored in the season
 

bga1 said:
. ... and everyone is playing patsies right now. ...
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Respectfully BGA, that sounds really nice & everything, as long as it doesn't have to be backed up with facts. Here are some of the opponents other Big Ten teams have played/will play, post ACC Challenge (the Gophers played @ Wake on Dec. 2, their last notable non-conference game):

Illinois -- Villanova, Oregon, Mizzou
Indiana -- Louisville, Butler
Iowa -- Iowa State, Northern Iowa
Maryland -- Oklahoma State
Michigan -- Arizona, SMU
Michigan State --
Nebraska -- Creighton, Cincinnati, likely some combination of Wichita State/Colorado/DePaul/George Washington
Northwestern -- Butler
Ohio State -- North Carolina
Penn State -- George Washington
Purdue -- Vanderbilt, Notre Dame
Rutgers -- Seton Hall
Wisconsin -- Marquette, Cal

Ironically, it could be argued only Sparty is challenging itself less post-ACC Challenge than the Gophers.

So I would argue, no, not everyone is playing all patsies for pretty much the entire month of December.
 



SelectionSunday said:
Respectfully BGA, that sounds really nice & everything, as long as it doesn't have to be backed up with facts. Here are some of the opponents other Big Ten teams have played/will play, post ACC Challenge (the Gophers played @ Wake on Dec. 2, their last notable non-conference game):

Illinois -- Villanova, Oregon, Mizzou
Indiana -- Louisville, Butler
Iowa -- Iowa State, Northern Iowa
Maryland -- Oklahoma State
Michigan -- Arizona, SMU
Michigan State --
Nebraska -- Creighton, Cincinnati, likely some combination of Wichita State/Colorado/DePaul/George Washington
Northwestern -- Butler
Ohio State -- North Carolina
Penn State -- George Washington
Purdue -- Vanderbilt, Notre Dame
Rutgers -- Seton Hall
Wisconsin -- Marquette, Cal

Ironically, it could be argued only Sparty is challenging itself less post-ACC Challenge than the Gophers.

So I would argue, no, not everyone is playing all patsies for pretty much the entire month of December.
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BGA

Don't phuck with SS and scheduling, he's dialed in on this one. DIALED IN.
 


SelectionSunday said:
So I would argue, no, not everyone is playing all patsies for pretty much the entire month of December.
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Agreed, but when Michigan loses to NJIT and Eastern Michigan, I'm not sure that a possible win against SMU and another loss to Arizona will help them that much. I could easily see Nebraska losing at least one more game in non-conference and that would give them four losses. We haven't lost to any mid-majors yet which is something that Indiana, Michigan, Nebraska, and Purdue can't say.

As long as we do fairly well in the conference, we should be fine. The Gophers beat one power conference team during the non-conference schedule last year and they've beaten two this year. Instead of being obsessed about our weak non-conference schedule, you should be optimistic about Michigan and Nebraska looking more vulnerable than expected and Indiana not looking much better than last year.
 

SelectionSunday said:
Respectfully BGA, that sounds really nice & everything, as long as it doesn't have to be backed up with facts. Here are some of the opponents other Big Ten teams have played/will play, post ACC Challenge (the Gophers played @ Wake on Dec. 2, their last notable non-conference game):

Illinois -- Villanova, Oregon, Mizzou
Indiana -- Louisville, Butler
Iowa -- Iowa State, Northern Iowa
Maryland -- Oklahoma State
Michigan -- Arizona, SMU
Michigan State --
Nebraska -- Creighton, Cincinnati, likely some combination of Wichita State/Colorado/DePaul/George Washington
Northwestern -- Butler
Ohio State -- North Carolina
Penn State -- George Washington
Purdue -- Vanderbilt, Notre Dame
Rutgers -- Seton Hall
Wisconsin -- Marquette, Cal

Ironically, it could be argued only Sparty is challenging itself less post-ACC Challenge than the Gophers.

So I would argue, no, not everyone is playing all patsies for pretty much the entire month of December.
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Got it- but I didn't say everyone was playing ALL patsies, I said everyone is playing patsies. But you get my point. Meanwhile if we are playing patsies and we are- I am very happy that we are leading or near the top in statistical categories. The players can only beat the team that is in front of them. I think the program is making some progress, but I am with you - I need more and I need it against better competition. Like you, I am paying good money for some really bad games.
 



SelectionSunday said:
Respectfully BGA, that sounds really nice & everything, as long as it doesn't have to be backed up with facts. Here are some of the opponents other Big Ten teams have played/will play, post ACC Challenge (the Gophers played @ Wake on Dec. 2, their last notable non-conference game):

Illinois -- Villanova, Oregon, Mizzou
Indiana -- Louisville, Butler
Iowa -- Iowa State, Northern Iowa
Maryland -- Oklahoma State
Michigan -- Arizona, SMU
Michigan State --
Nebraska -- Creighton, Cincinnati, likely some combination of Wichita State/Colorado/DePaul/George Washington
Northwestern -- Butler
Ohio State -- North Carolina
Penn State -- George Washington
Purdue -- Vanderbilt, Notre Dame
Rutgers -- Seton Hall
Wisconsin -- Marquette, Cal

Ironically, it could be argued only Sparty is challenging itself less post-ACC Challenge than the Gophers.

So I would argue, no, not everyone is playing all patsies for pretty much the entire month of December.
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You forgot NJIT...
 




cjbfbp said:
Instead of being obsessed about our weak non-conference schedule. ...
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Non-conference home schedule. That's my thing. I'm pretty clear about that as a season-ticket holder, I know it's a drum I beat too loudly. Not the overall non-conference schedule. ... I haven't been harping on that. There's a difference between the two things. One involves season-ticket holders (home NC schedule), the other one does not (overall NC schedule).

In this thread I simply pointed out what BGA said ("everyone is playing patsies right now") was factually incorrect. That may not have been what he meant, but it's right there in black & white. And certainly no ill will to BGA, I like him, he's a good man.
 

SelectionSunday said:
And Incarnate Word.
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You just don't want to lose to Incarnate Word for heavens sake! (pun intended) I can't imagine what this board would have looked like if we had done that (or lost to NJIT for that matter).
 

SelectionSunday said:
Non-conference home schedule. That's my thing. I'm pretty clear about that as a season-ticket holder, I know it's a drum I beat too loudly. Not the overall non-conference schedule. ... I haven't been harping on that. There's a difference between the two things. One involves season-ticket holders (home NC schedule), the other one does not (overall NC schedule).

In this thread I simply pointed out what BGA said ("everyone is playing patsies right now") was factually incorrect. That may not have been what he meant, but it's right there in black & white. And certainly no ill will to BGA, I like him, he's a good man.
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No problem here. I appreciate all your stuff- love it. It's okay to complain about the schedule. It's true.
 

If there's a Jesus, Mary & Joseph University out there, I don't think a Big Ten team would want to play them right now.
 

SelectionSunday said:
Non-conference home schedule. That's my thing. I'm pretty clear about that as a season-ticket holder,
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That I can understand. Most of the December non-conference home games are hardly worth attending. However, for this year, I think this slate works for the coaches' and the team's player development needs.
 

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