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fmlizard said:
Indiana and Northwestern(???) ahead of the Gophers?

It's a top 25 with 8 B1G teams. Not having a chance to lose a game must have a lifting effect.
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Yeah, maybe we will get all 14 Big Ten teams in the top 25 over the next month.:p
 

How do they even come up with something like this? Our projected win total is 4.8-4.2. They have Wisconsin with a 78.7% chance to win the division. And their projected win total is 7.3-1.7.

They basically have no data to base anything off.
 




stocker08 said:
How do they even come up with something like this? Our projected win total is 4.8-4.2. They have Wisconsin with a 78.7% chance to win the division. And their projected win total is 7.3-1.7.

They basically have no data to base anything off.
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It’s based on returning production on offense and defense
 


Some guy said:
It’s based on returning production on offense and defense
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That's still basically trash. With our projected total....they at least had a range (even though they are wrong). But with Wisconsin? Projected wins between 7.3-1.7? Basically a worthless ranking at this point.
 



stocker08 said:
That's still basically trash. With our projected total....they at least had a range (even though they are wrong). But with Wisconsin? Projected wins between 7.3-1.7? Basically a worthless ranking at this point.
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I agree with you that it’s a worthless rating. I’m just explaining it
 


I haven’t read it closely, but since 4.8 + 4.2 = 9, and 7.3 + 1.7 = 9, I’m guessing they’re predicting not just wins, but wins and losses for the season. On the other hand, who knows with those folks?
 

pk2 said:
I haven’t read it closely, but since 4.8 + 4.2 = 9, and 7.3 + 1.7 = 9, I’m guessing they’re predicting not just wins, but wins and losses for the season. On the other hand, who knows with those folks?
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That’s exactly what it means
 



pk2 said:
I haven’t read it closely, but since 4.8 + 4.2 = 9, and 7.3 + 1.7 = 9, I’m guessing they’re predicting not just wins, but wins and losses for the season. On the other hand, who knows with those folks?
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That makes way more sense. Probably should have noticed that....but I was too preoccupied with how bad their rankings were. :mad:
 

stocker08 said:
How do they even come up with something like this? Our projected win total is 4.8-4.2. They have Wisconsin with a 78.7% chance to win the division. And their projected win total is 7.3-1.7.

They basically have no data to base anything off.
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Anytime you read date like this which is not only based on speculation but the calculations were based using in this case two significant figures and see that the answers are given in multiple significant figures ignore it.
247 does the same math malpractice in rating recruits.
The answer must not contain more significant figures that the least number of significant figures used in the calculation.
 

Plato said:
Anytime you read date like this which is not only based on speculation but the calculations were based using in this case two significant figures and see that the answers are given in multiple significant figures ignore it.
247 does the same math malpractice in rating recruits.
The answer must not contain more significant figures that the least number of significant figures used in the calculation.
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I can see that you're not for it....but I cannot make heads or tails of your post otherwise. That first sentence is a frankenstein.
 

apnews.com

NCAA College Football Rankings: AP Top 25 Football Poll

The official page for the AP Top 25 college football poll, a tradition since 1936. Keep up to date and view the latest ranking updates each week.
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Big Ten back in the AP rankings, but we're not. If that's not enough motivation to go out and pound the Wolverines on Oct. 24, I'm not sure what is.
 

stocker08 said:
I can see that you're not for it....but I cannot make heads or tails of your post otherwise. That first sentence is a frankenstein.
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i could have used pictures to help you understand the rules for significant figures.
 

stocker08 said:
I can see that you're not for it....but I cannot make heads or tails of your post otherwise. That first sentence is a frankenstein.
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Basically he's saying that you shouldn't report numbers to that many decimal places when the data used to make said calculations is not that precise.
 

Jimbo Slice said:
apnews.com

NCAA College Football Rankings: AP Top 25 Football Poll

The official page for the AP Top 25 college football poll, a tradition since 1936. Keep up to date and view the latest ranking updates each week.
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Big Ten back in the AP rankings, but we're not. If that's not enough motivation to go out and pound the Wolverines on Oct. 24, I'm not sure what is.
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All the polls are a bit wonky right now.

Big Ten and Pac-12 return to most unusual college football poll
 

Opinion bias and past results often find their way into power rankings and polls. If you were from a different planet but knew football, flew to Earth and looked at results from last year and the Gophers results against Penn State/Auburn coupled with the amount of returning players from the three teams - you'd likely assume they would be ranked in the same neighborhood. But, there is Auburn and Penn State safely inside the top 10, while the Gophers are sent to the back end of the top 25 in most polls and power rankings.
 

Schnauzer said:
Opinion bias and past results often find their way into power rankings and polls. If you were from a different planet but knew football, flew to Earth and looked at results from last year and the Gophers results against Penn State/Auburn coupled with the amount of returning players from the three teams - you'd likely assume they would be ranked in the same neighborhood. But, there is Auburn and Penn State safely inside the top 10, while the Gophers are sent to the back end of the top 25 in most polls and power rankings.
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I'd argue it's not opinion bias and past results, more just recruiting rankings and PSU and Auburn usually get 10 classes while ours are in the 30-50 range so those teams get the benefit of the doubt because they just plug in a 4 or 5 star when they lose a guy to the NFL, we plug in a 3 star.

If the gophers had 5 straight top 15 classes and PSU and Auburn went 5 straight years having a class outside the top 30, it would be the opposite even with having less history.
 

Jimbo Slice said:
apnews.com

NCAA College Football Rankings: AP Top 25 Football Poll

The official page for the AP Top 25 college football poll, a tradition since 1936. Keep up to date and view the latest ranking updates each week.
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Big Ten back in the AP rankings, but we're not. If that's not enough motivation to go out and pound the Wolverines on Oct. 24, I'm not sure what is.
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Don't worry, I'm sure a sound beating of Michigan will move Minnesota ahead of Louisiana Lafayette in the "Others Receiving Votes" category, while Michigan will vault 2 or 3 spots for the valiant effort in defeat.
 

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