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With UCLA's run rule victory over Florida, all SEC teams have been eliminated. I would hope that the selection committee would take notice. But, that would assume that they had a scintilla of intelligence.
Yes, or assume that they're immune to undue pressure from the SEC.
 

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On a semi related note, St. Thomas is proposing a 1,000-seat softball stadium in the former Ford plant property that would probably make the Jane the second nicest softball stadium in MN. Could we see a future arms race for stadium venues that could lead to upgrades at the Jane?

Gophers stadium pretty squeezed in for space with baseball field, football facility, and rec fields. Best to do would be make add a few more rows of permanent bleachers
 

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With UCLA's run rule victory over Florida, all SEC teams have been eliminated. I would hope that the selection committee would take notice. But, that would assume that they had a scintilla of intelligence.
I don't think it as much about intelligence as it is about integrity. The system is biased and maybe corrupt toward the SEC.
 



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Gophers stadium pretty squeezed in for space with baseball field, football facility, and rec fields. Best to do would be make add a few more rows of permanent bleachers

I've always thought the bleacher and seating arrangement at the Gophers ballpark was very inefficient. The bleachers set back behind the main lower seating seem like a bad afterthought. Just improving those bleachers would improve the place.
 

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I don't think it as much about intelligence as it is about integrity. The system is biased and maybe corrupt toward the SEC.
that's true in all the sports. They've established a feedback loop of rank the bottom half of SEC high -> weigh by SOS and top 25/50 wins -> keep SEC ranked based on those metrics
 

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I don't think it as much about intelligence as it is about integrity. The system is biased and maybe corrupt toward the SEC.
I agree. I don't think I expressed myself very well. The bias all starts with the early season home game advantage inherent in the SEC scheduling. After building impressive W/L records against visiting teams, they have a hefty resume. Then, they play each other and further bolster their 'credentials'. Unless the selection committee recognizes this advantage, the SEC will continue to get the higher seeds. Of course, the visiting teams could help themselves by winning some of their games as visitors. Northwestern did it this year. Other BIG teams need to do the same.
 

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1.25M Texas/Oklahoma Saturday abc
1.06M UCLA/Florida Sunday abc
1.03M Arizona/Texas Sunday espn2
959K OklahomaSt/Florida Saturday espn2

Some comps for weekend - 297K wnba, 341k highest baseball regional, 11.9M NBA finals game 2, 1.94M wwe Smackdown, 1.29M espn Sunday night baseball, 866K USA soccer friendly
 



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Monday cable:

Avalanche/Oilers, TNT: 1.992M

College Softball World Series, ESPN:

Texas/Oklahoma St 9:36P: 1.304M
Oklahoma St/Texas 7P: 1.256M
Oklahoma/UCLA 3:13P: 1.039M
UCLA/Oklahoma, Noon: 703K
 

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Went to twins/Yankees game and the pace of play compared to watching WCWS is horrendous
 


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I don't think there's any team capable of stopping Oklahoma from winning at least 4 straight titles and losing less than 5 games in each of next 2 years. Expecting they'll bring in Addison from Wichita and they have #1 recruit signed, plus Jennings and Bahl to win national player and pitcher next 2 years.
 



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I don't think there's any team capable of stopping Oklahoma from winning at least 4 straight titles and losing less than 5 games in each of next 2 years. Expecting they'll bring in Addison from Wichita and they have #1 recruit signed, plus Jennings and Bahl to win national player and pitcher next 2 years.
Plus essentially a home field advantage for the whole NCAA playoffs.
 


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And if I was one of the two freshman pitchers coming in next year, I would be looking elsewhere
 

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And if I was one of the two freshman pitchers coming in next year, I would be looking elsewhere
What does that mean? Also... student athletes can't transfer after they sign their national letter of intent. They would have to sit out the 2023 season as they wouldn't be eligible elsewhere. The only exception would be a hardship case like family illness or if the coach that they signed to play with was dismissed or left for a different position.
 


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What does that mean? Also... student athletes can't transfer after they sign their national letter of intent. They would have to sit out the 2023 season as they wouldn't be eligible elsewhere. The only exception would be a hardship case like family illness or if the coach that they signed to play with was dismissed or left for a different position.
It means the #1 recruit will not play much her freshman year. Behind Storoko and Jordy. She might be looking at the portal as soon as she can. Also the # 10 recruit. They all want to play and when they don’t get on the field they usually transfer
 

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Is anyone in big ten going to be good? Hard to see anyone getting a top 16 seed. Widra committed to auburn from Michigan, Danielle Williams has covid year to use but was awful in postseason
 

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Is anyone in big ten going to be good? Hard to see anyone getting a top 16 seed. Widra committed to auburn from Michigan, Danielle Williams has covid year to use but was awful in postseason

There's such a clear divide between northern and southern schools in NCAA diamond sports opportunities, I'm afraid the loose portal rules are going to push northern teams further into minor league "feeder" program status.

Northern weather in late Spring to early Fall is so superior compared to the south, it's a shame NCAA softball and baseball are essentially winter sports for a big chunk of the season.
 
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School is basically in session all year. Why not move the ball & bat sports into mainly a summer sport?

Oh, I can tell you... The SEC, Pac-12, Big 12 and ACC. But mainly the SEC.
And why does the NCAA, the governing body so-called, choose to keep it as it is? Oh, there wouldn't be a substantial financial lobby somewhere, would there?
 

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School is basically in session all year. Why not move the ball & bat sports into mainly a summer sport?

Oh, I can tell you... The SEC, Pac-12, Big 12 and ACC. But mainly the SEC.

If softball and baseball were fully funded scholarship sports, the argument for a summer season would get much stronger. However, with only up to 12 scholarships allowed in D1, it's probably an issue for the partial and non-scholarship athletes that work. A full summer session would be almost undoable in D2 and D3.

That said, the WCWS happens about 1 month after most schools' spring semesters end and the WCS is a good 1.5 months. Many students take summer terms in May/June already. It wouldn't be much of a stretch to start diamond sports in mid-March and end the regular seasons the end of May and post season going into June/July for the handful of remaining top teams.

I'd love to be watching a Gopher game in the Jane or Siebert Field right now.
 




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With a lot of players leaving, i'm starting to think that this is a coaching problem. Same thing going on at Alabama. Sad to see all of these great players leave the program but they have to do what is best for them. Would love to hear what everyone else thinks the reason for each player leaving.
 

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With a lot of players leaving, i'm starting to think that this is a coaching problem. Same thing going on at Alabama. Sad to see all of these great players leave the program but they have to do what is best for them. Would love to hear what everyone else thinks the reason for each player leaving.
I think it's multiple causality. There are likely several problematic elements that haven't been addressed by the right person(s). Repeating what I've said before: The 2022 Gophers would've won the BIG championship with a strong pitching staff, but they haven't attracted a strong power pitcher since Fiser was a high school senior in 2016. Take away long-term continuity in coaching, onfield player personnel, and above all pitching and things will crumble. The portal adds to the complications. The present fall-off has been in effect since 2020. It can be fixed with the right additions, but someone needs to be there who's able to affect those additions.
 

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With a lot of players leaving, i'm starting to think that this is a coaching problem. Same thing going on at Alabama. Sad to see all of these great players leave the program but they have to do what is best for them. Would love to hear what everyone else thinks the reason for each player leaving.
I agree with this take as I’ve said before.
It sounded to me (through my conversations that I mentioned before) that the girls were not treated well through the whole COVID ordeal and mental health was not addressed at all. Jenna Beckstrom’s post on Twitter is telling……
 




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