Glen Mason as Hoosiers coach?

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On both the Rivals "coaching carousel" page and on IU's Scout forum, Glen Mason is listed as a possibility at IU.

Love him or hate him, I would think that Mason would be a big step up from Bill Lynch.

I don't think this is a very likely outcome, but it would sure make for interesting discussion once every few years when we might face him.
 

Indiana's been playing Mason-like defense for years, so I think it could be a natural fit. Plus he's right next to Ohio, so recruiting the 3rd tier players wouldn't even cut into his offseason whateverthehell he does instead of recruiting and promoting the program.

It almost makes too much sense.
 

Mason At IU

Go Gophers Rah said:
On both the Rivals "coaching carousel" page and on IU's Scout forum, Glen Mason is listed as a possibility at IU.

Love him or hate him, I would think that Mason would be a big step up from Bill Lynch.

I don't think this is a very likely outcome, but it would sure make for interesting discussion once every few years when we might face him.
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He'd be perfect! (see below)

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Go Gophers Rah said:
On both the Rivals "coaching carousel" page and on IU's Scout forum, Glen Mason is listed as a possibility at IU.

Love him or hate him, I would think that Mason would be a big step up from Bill Lynch.

I don't think this is a very likely outcome, but it would sure make for interesting discussion once every few years when we might face him.
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Mason's wife has an established Dental practice in Minneapolis and I"m pretty sure he's happy with what he is doing....otherwise I think they would have left town long ago....interesting but don't see it happening...
 

I can't remember where I saw (or heard) the Mason quote that pretty much went "My wife's business is here. Our kids are here. I like what I'm doing. Etc." Maybe he has the itch to get back into it, but I doubt he'd want to get back into coaching so badly that he'd head to Indiana to try and resurrect that program. Hedging a bet, I'd say he'd do the Frank Solich "MAC rebound" if he were going to get back into it.
 


I'd need lots of professional help if Mason got Indiana to a New Years Day bowl game before we make one.
 

50PoundHead said:
I can't remember where I saw (or heard) the Mason quote that pretty much went "My wife's business is here. Our kids are here. I like what I'm doing. Etc." Maybe he has the itch to get back into it, but I doubt he'd want to get back into coaching so badly that he'd head to Indiana to try and resurrect that program. Hedging a bet, I'd say he'd do the Frank Solich "MAC rebound" if he were going to get back into it.
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I realize Indiana's no prize, but why is a Mac rebound better?
 

Glen Mason was 1-7 in Big Ten games played in the state of Indiana.
His record was abysmal against Purdue.

I would think those two things would be key in his non-hiring at IU.
 

I don't think Glen and his wife want to leave Minnesota, really. If there were another
coaching gig within driving distance, I think he might do it, kinda like when Herb commuted
each day to coach St. Cloud.

Other than St. Cloud going Division I, I think he's happy doing what he's doing.
 



why does anyone in the state of Minnesota other than this *&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#*&^!#s' wife give a crap what he does next year. Shouldn't have even been posted on this site.
 

Am I the only one who thinks with Mason, Indiana would regain respect? Think what you want, but he took Kansas from nowhere to bowl games, and he did the same for Minnesota. I hope he gets the job. Show the guy a little appreciation for what he did here.
 

I think Indiana would do well with Mason.
They would go 4-0 non-conference every year.
They would beat Purdue...okay maybe not.
They would beat Illinois
THey would beat Wisconsin 1 of every 4 attempts.
They would beat Penn State 1 of every 3 attempts.
THey would never beat ohio state.


They would finish between 5-8 wins just about every year depending on who they catch in the conference schedule.
 




Much rather it be Mason than Jerry Kill, who also has been linked to the IU job. If we're not going to go after the Killah, then I'd just as soon not see one of our conference competitors land him.
 

At least we know we could score 35+ points against Indiana every time we play them. But I think Mase is gonna stay with the BTN. I sure as hell would if I were him. It's a good gig with tons of job security and he's still really involved with what he loves (besides coaching teams to lower tier bowl games).
 

drunkenMNgopher said:
At least we know we could score 35+ points against Indiana every time we play them. But I think Mase is gonna stay with the BTN. I sure as hell would if I were him. It's a good gig with tons of job security and he's still really involved with what he loves (besides coaching teams to lower tier bowl games).
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I agree. He does have a very sweet gig. Any studio job like that is a plum for an older fella and ex-coach: no traveling, no recruiting, and not having to deal with the voluminous headaches that a college football coach has to deal with every single day on the job. And he still keeps his face and name out there front and center, so he gets exposure without having to deal with any difficulties.

He was getting progressively lazier here and now he's even older, so in my opinion he should probably just stick with the sweet and easy gig and just relax and ride off into the sunset like that.
 

Seany said:
I agree. He does have a very sweet gig. Any studio job like that is a plum for an older fella and ex-coach: no traveling, no recruiting, and not having to deal with the voluminous headaches that a college football coach has to deal with every single day on the job. And he still keeps his face and name out there front and center, so he gets exposure without having to deal with any difficulties.

He was getting progressively lazier here and now he's even older, so in my opinion he should probably just stick with the sweet and easy gig and just relax and ride off into the sunset like that.
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As one ex-coach commentator (I think it was Madden) once said: "I never lost a game in the booth"
 


heck i was hoping out next coach would hire Maze as our OL coach
 

IU can have Masonball.

I just hope they don't hire Jerry Kill.
 

That Big Ten Network job is safe and cushy. It depends on if he really wants to get back into coaching. He could bring them up to being a so-so team - our legendary 2003 team was only 5-3 in the Big Ten, it was the NC schedule that puffed it up.
 

It really is amusing the way some have no realization or understanding of just how tough it is to win "big" at the University of Minnesota. This is one mighty tough job. I would be willing to wager that it will be quite a while until anyone coaching the U of M Football Program manages a 5-3 Big Ten record. And, most likely, fairly soon, there will be a 9 game conference schedule. A 5-3 Big Ten equates to a .625 Big Ten winning percentage. A 6-3 Big Ten record would equate to a .667 Big Ten winning percentage.

Too many people underestimate just how difficult it is going to be to rise above .500 in Big Ten play. And, with the addition of Nebraska it just became even more difficult.

Just wait...just watch...and I'll keep track of the number of Big Ten wins vs Big Ten losses the new coach will bring us. Starting with season number one. It is NOT so easy winning Big Ten Games...not so easy as some would try to have us think.

I've been around too long and have seen too much Big Ten Football to buy into this "next level stuff. There are a lot of very good football programs in the Big Ten. I know that anything above .500 in Big Ten play is a pretty good accomplishment at the University of Minnesota. Especially since the conference became more competetive than the Big Two...little eight Conference from back in the 70's and 80's and prior to the PSU addition.
 

imthewalrus said:
It really is amusing the way some have no realization or understanding of just how tough it is to win "big" at the University of Minnesota. This is one mighty tough job. I would be willing to wager that it will be quite a while until anyone coaching the U of M Football Program manages a 5-3 Big Ten record. And, most likely, fairly soon, there will be a 9 game conference schedule. A 5-3 Big Ten equates to a .625 Big Ten winning percentage. A 6-3 Big Ten record would equate to a .667 Big Ten winning percentage.

Too many people underestimate just how difficult it is going to be to rise above .500 in Big Ten play. And, with the addition of Nebraska it just became even more difficult.

Just wait...just watch...and I'll keep track of the number of Big Ten wins vs Big Ten losses the new coach will bring us. Starting with season number one. It is NOT so easy winning Big Ten Games...not so easy as some would try to have us think.

I've been around too long and have seen too much Big Ten Football to buy into this "next level stuff. There are a lot of very good football programs in the Big Ten. I know that anything above .500 in Big Ten play is a pretty good accomplishment at the University of Minnesota. Especially since the conference became more competetive than the Big Two...little eight Conferencefrom back in the 70's and 80's and prior to the PSU addition.
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I agree with the main point that it isn't easy, but then how have D'Antonio, Alvarez/Bielema and Ferentz managed to elevate their programs? It can be done.
 

I didn't say impossible: I said difficult. And, you have to be a bit lucky. And, the "outright" championship happens very seldom.

Alvarez and Ferentz have had administrations that have dedicated themselves to having good, competetive programs. (iowa has done this since back in Haydon's day.)

It is going to be a while until the U of M breaks above the 5-3 "level" of having a good, solid program and having a little bit of luck to go with it. It's going to be a long, hard pull. It will be worth the effort. There is the possibility that someday it may happen IF the new prexy brings in a top-notch AD who realizes that the Football Program needs the most attention and will be essential to all the other programs supported by the athletic department.

Obtaining a new football coach can bring hope...but...it also DEMANDS a great athletic director and a strong enough prexy to keep the committment to the football program to mean more than just "talking about" having a committment to provide a strong football program for the players, coaches, fans and the state of Minnesota. To do that, the level of committment will need to go WAY beyond what prexy b and maturi have done. WAY beyond...

It takes a LOT more than having an on campus stadium and bringing in a new coach every 4 or 5 years. And, when you get a coach who improves things, the administration needs to improve things on their end too. The new stadium probably kept brewster from being any worse than he was. He was over-matched and under-experienced and too much talk and not enough coaching. The new coach will have the stadium in place but, he will need a lot more committment from the administration than just that. After only two years, the thrill of the new stadium is gone. Now it it time for the administration to dig deeply. The administration MUST be upgraded from what we have had.

And, it still will be tough to climb above 5-3 in Big Ten play.
 

Please check Oregon on their level of success before rich Brooks arrival and then check his first seven years.
Does their state produce a lot of Football players? Also they share their state with another Div. 1 school.
 

Just curious Wren what you think "the level of committment will need to go WAY beyond what prexy b and maturi have done. WAY beyond..." will require.

A few of my comments about that.

We all know that the Admin. added TCF which is one of the keys to success. Existing football facilities appear to be adequate. Maturi reportedly has an armored car in tow to hand out $$$$ in a qualified coach. Steps have been taken to increase asst. coaching salaries.

A lot of people would like to see more $$$ available for the program. Easier said than done considering the limited revenue from ticket sales/exc compared to Wisky, Iowa, OSU, PSU, Michigan and MSU to a lesser degree. Cutting non-revenue sports may be necessary.

One other area the Admin. must address is the booze sales in the suites and work with the legislature to get it done. $1-$1.5M is hard to ignore. It seems odd that I can grab a beer at the Mac Center but its not available at TCF in the suites which was the plan B4 the legislature got involved.

Admin. cut the General College Program a few years back. Will they or should they lessen admission requirements and other easier degrees?

Now that we have TCF, Admin. needs to work on taking steps to create a better game-day atmosphere. Parking lots close to to TCF are under used and way over priced. New traditions need to be established. We don't compare to the Bucky game day atmosphere so we have a long way to go.

So what are your thoughts to support your statement??
 

imthewalrus said:
It really is amusing the way some have no realization or understanding of just how tough it is to win "big" at the University of Minnesota. This is one mighty tough job. I would be willing to wager that it will be quite a while until anyone coaching the U of M Football Program manages a 5-3 Big Ten record. And, most likely, fairly soon, there will be a 9 game conference schedule. A 5-3 Big Ten equates to a .625 Big Ten winning percentage. A 6-3 Big Ten record would equate to a .667 Big Ten winning percentage.

Too many people underestimate just how difficult it is going to be to rise above .500 in Big Ten play. And, with the addition of Nebraska it just became even more difficult.

Just wait...just watch...and I'll keep track of the number of Big Ten wins vs Big Ten losses the new coach will bring us. Starting with season number one. It is NOT so easy winning Big Ten Games...not so easy as some would try to have us think.

I've been around too long and have seen too much Big Ten Football to buy into this "next level stuff. There are a lot of very good football programs in the Big Ten. I know that anything above .500 in Big Ten play is a pretty good accomplishment at the University of Minnesota. Especially since the conference became more competetive than the Big Two...little eight Conference from back in the 70's and 80's and prior to the PSU addition.
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I don't know why I can't refrain from responding to this idiot. Call it a sickness.

1) Wayne, what does any of this rambling nonsense about Minnesota and Big Ten Wins have to do with Glen Mason and the Indiana job? Thanks in advance.

2) Also, who are these people that have "no realization or understanding of just how tough it is to win 'big' at the University of Minnesota"? They don't exist. And no, your alternate personalities discussing it among themselves don't count. Anyone who has been following Minnesota for more than 1-2 years is fully aware. I bet you're sure proud of yourself for being able to tell all of us something we've known for decades. Good job.
 

Hypothetically we hire Brew part 2 and Indiana hires Mason. Mason would beat us every time.

The amount of hatred for Mason on this board astounds me. Before Mason we had been nothing for years. With Mason we became respectable. I know 5/6 of other G-Holers will disagree and say Mason was a chump, couldn't win the big game, etc, but you cannot argue the fact that he brought us to a level that we are not currently at.
 

RodentRampage said:
That Big Ten Network job is safe and cushy. It depends on if he really wants to get back into coaching. He could bring them up to being a so-so team - our legendary 2003 team was only 5-3 in the Big Ten, it was the NC schedule that puffed it up.
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It comes down to money and opportunity for Mase. If IU would offer him a 5-year deal at $1.5 million per, then he'd be a fool not to jump at it. I would guess it would take him 2 seconds to accept an offer like that.

The BTN gig might be safe and cushy, but it doesn't pay $1.5 million+ per year. His wife may have a nice dentist biz, but how could they turn down a $7-$10 million package to send them off into their sunset years? No brainer, he takes it.

Clearly, the bigger question is whether IU would ever offer the job to a 60-year old middle of the road coach.
 

I think people get angry when there is a perception that a person is not working as hard as he can at his job

Glenn Mason final years, Dave Lee etc.
 

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