GHole Journalist/Media Turkey of Year

GHole Media Turkey of Year

  • Reusse

    Votes: 40 45.5%

  • Souhan

    Votes: 17 19.3%

  • Doogie

    Votes: 17 19.3%

  • Sid

    Votes: 11 12.5%

  • Lee

    Votes: 3 3.4%
  • Total voters
    88
  • Poll closed .
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Voting for Doogie is similar to Reusse picking Brewster. Neither matters enough to be turkey. Since Doogie is on the list why not the kids writng for the Daily? They have about the same influence.

I am voting for Souhan. Reusse is Reusse but Souhan seems particularly bitter as of late.
 

how the hell isnt barrerio on that list?

goofy looking, pompous, and hard to listen too........and doesnt talk sports on a sports radio show

oh wait, he will today, the gophers lost
 

Goldteam said:
how the hell isnt barrerio on that list?

goofy looking, pompous, and hard to listen too........and doesnt talk sports on a sports radio show

oh wait, he will today, the gophers lost
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Obvious mistake...you can tell I'm not a local guy, except in GG spirit.

You might want to start Version II of this poll with more additions if appropriate...no pride of authorship on my part, just the board's chance to balance out some of the biased wackiness from the media world.
 



Ruesse is the ring leader. nobody with the balls to go their own way in this town. he set's the tone. Doogie is disappointing because he follows and is supposedly one of our own, but without Ruesse this thread doesn't exist.
 

I'm ... not .... sure .... who ... I ... would .... pick....I ... need ... to ... dot ... on ... it ... some .... more........
 


Schnoodler said:
Ruesse is the ring leader. nobody with the balls to go their own way in this town. he set's the tone. Doogie is disappointing because he follows and is supposedly one of our own, but without Ruesse this thread doesn't exist.
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What does one of our own mean? I am realist who has expectations ... the Big Ten is in a down period ... is expecting an occasional trip to the Outback Bowl wrong? Why can't the "U" achieve to be like OSU, Mich., etc. ?
 



Doogie said:
What does one of our own mean? I am realist who has expectations ... the Big Ten is in a down period ... is expecting an occasional trip to the Outback Bowl wrong? Why can't the "U" achieve to be like OSU, Mich., etc. ?
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Being a now realist with expectations based on current data, what does this mean?
 


All on the list

Have done damage to the progam. I can understand the Fat a$$ from Fulda leading, but I personally think the damage Dave Lee does every Saturday during the season is beyond compare. He can take an unwatchable or listenable game and make it more painful. He can make the simple seem confounding. Only he can make every listener respond with, WHAT?!! If you can listen to more than 10 minutes you should get a medal from the Univeristy. Talk about taking one for the team, I just cannot do it.

The bottom line, the University cannot do anything about any of the top choices but they can pull the plug on Dave Lee. My father in law used to say, if you wonder why something is the way it its? Its because its just the way someone wants it. I for the life of me, cannot figure who thinks Dave Lee is the way to go. Even if he is paying to do the broadcast, it just isn't worth it.:mad:

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Doogie said:
What does one of our own mean? I am realist who has expectations ... the Big Ten is in a down period ... is expecting an occasional trip to the Outback Bowl wrong? Why can't the "U" achieve to be like OSU, Mich., etc. ?
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It most certainly can. You should be more interested in the process than the fact that we haven't arrived. The sport is much more interesting than the incessant whining from the local media. Somewhere along the line the local media decided they were more important than the sports they covered. I could care less what you think, I want a pro that can tell me what Brew thinks. I want coverage that gives me insight into just wtf Fisch is trying to achieve. Lastly I want decent perspective. We are doing just what Mason did, in a growing program. The difference is we now are playing good Defense and ST's while playing lousy offensive football. We finished just where this program should have finished. Nowhere close to where I hoped we'd finish. But right on lines with the strength of the talent and the schedules.

The internet provides me with all the whining I can handle, I sure as hell don't need it from you and the rest of you hacks. Journalists my ass. Too scared to even talk to the folks you want to bash constantly. i don't blame you, because then you'd have to actually provide some real insight and you'd be exposed for your shallow skill set.
 



Yho Doogie

can't the "U" achieve to be like OSU, Mich., etc. ?
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Michigan? Are you up to date Doogie? Michigan finished 1-7, tied for last.
 

College football, so Brewster is no different than most, is extremely secretive ... media is allowed to watch players stretch during practice and a few minutes of individual drills ... 90% of the time in press conference settings, coaches will say what they want to say and not answer direct questions ... catching up with someone at the Dome yesterday who knows many inside the program, the positive stuff Brewster spews on Tuesdays and on CCO, is different from what he'll tell those closest to him ... so, like every reporter in town, we will never get the full truth.
 


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Schnoodler said:
It most certainly can. You should be more interested in the process than the fact that we haven't arrived. The sport is much more interesting than the incessant whining from the local media. Somewhere along the line the local media decided they were more important than the sports they covered. I could care less what you think, I want a pro that can tell me what Brew thinks. I want coverage that gives me insight into just wtf Fisch is trying to achieve. Lastly I want decent perspective. We are doing just what Mason did, in a growing program. The difference is we now are playing good Defense and ST's while playing lousy offensive football. We finished just where this program should have finished. Nowhere close to where I hoped we'd finish. But right on lines with the strength of the talent and the schedules.

The internet provides me with all the whining I can handle, I sure as hell don't need it from you and the rest of you hacks. Journalists my ass. Too scared to even talk to the folks you want to bash constantly. i don't blame you, because then you'd have to actually provide some real insight and you'd be exposed for your shallow skill set.
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+1
 

Doogie said:
The glory days of Michigan ... still considered an elite program overall.
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And Brew is ripped by the media incessantly for trying to bring the Gs back to the glory years?

Michigan still considered elite? On current data, no.

Highly debatable going forward.

As it unfolds, the Michigan situation might actually be another Charlie W/ND snafu.

Possibly a serious hiring mistake as more BT teams figure out how to stuff the spread.

As with Brew and his O, time will tell.
 

Do you think that if anyone asked Brewster a direct question they'd get a direct answer? F no!

Ask Bewster what's wrong with Weber. Ask why he holds the ball and makes poor decisions. Ask why he seems to have regressed severly under Fisch. Ask why he seemed to get worse down the stretch, when you think the opposite would be true.

What kind of an answer do you think you'd get? A bunch of spin and BS. Brewster is anything but a straight shooter. If he gave real answers to real questions he might not get crushed in the media so much.

He deserves what he gets.
 

Doogie said:
College football, so Brewster is no different than most, is extremely secretive ... media is allowed to watch players stretch during practice and a few minutes of individual drills ... 90% of the time in press conference settings, coaches will say what they want to say and not answer direct questions ... catching up with someone at the Dome yesterday who knows many inside the program, the positive stuff Brewster spews on Tuesdays and on CCO, is different from what he'll tell those closest to him ... so, like every reporter in town, we will never get the full truth.
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How come your stuff is always I know someone who knows someone. Or I heard from an insider close to the program, or Ruesse said it and he makes big bucks so I guess I'll say it too. Are you even a journalist? Call Maturi. Call Brewster. Call Fisch. Do your damn job.
 

I'm curious how you can play both sides of the coin. In one post you say Brewster said this (insert some quote). And in another you say well I know for a fact Brewster doesn't tell the media the full truth.

Kind of hard to use quotes as truth then, huh? Or do you get to just pick and choose what things you want to be truth?
 

I went to the first few Brewster press conferences and provided the board with his quotes ... then was able to sift through the BS, and stopped going ... and maybe I'm being too strong because it's not all BS by the way ... and in many ways, he is better than many coaches.
 

Schnoodler said:
How come your stuff is always I know someone who knows someone. Or I heard from an insider close to the program, or Ruesse said it and he makes big bucks so I guess I'll say it too. Are you even a journalist? Call Maturi. Call Brewster. Call Fisch. Do your damn job.
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I've talked to Joel plenty, and when covering spring practice talked with Brewster. Fisch, etc. ... also have had Brewster on CH 9 & KFAN with me a couple times ... often times reporters get their best stuff when talking to someone on background ... I've talked to a handful of former players who are very upset, but do you think any want to go on the record?
 

Doogie

Doogie said:
I went to the first few Brewster press conferences and provided the board with his quotes ... then was able to sift through the BS, and stopped going ... and maybe I'm being too strong because it's not all BS by the way ... and in many ways, he is better than many coaches.
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#1 - Serious journalists just don't stop going because they have a personal distaste for the persona of their source. They perserve to get at the "truth", keep asking questioins, digging and report it without personal bias.

#2 - Some balance is beginning to creep into your view of Brewster, that's encouraging for you if you expect to get any serious respect for your talents on this board.

#3 - Btw, I'm among the Holers who like your witty writing style and use of "dots".
 

Former players? Mason's players? You don't think there is a loyalty question there? Sour grapes. Why don't you ask them how come this team looks so bad but is getting the same results you guys got. Then ask them, how does it feel to know you guys were just as crappy as this team?? I'd be interested to know what Brewer has to say about that? Oops, I mean some former players you talk to...all the time...in the midst of your frequent dialogues with Brewster and Maturi.

Go ask your buddies these tough questions. I want to see what Brewster has to say about these concerns you have. And maybe a little skill, ask a follow up question or two if you don't feel he answers your question. And then if you're not satisfied still, tell him exactly what you think it looks like he's saying and how it's going to look when you write the story.
 

Schnoodler said:
Former players? Mason's players? You don't think there is a loyalty question there? Sour grapes. Why don't you ask them how come this team looks so bad but is getting the same results you guys got. Then ask them, how does it feel to know you guys were just as crappy as this team?? I'd be interested to know what Brewer has to say about that? Oops, I mean some former players you talk to...all the time...in the midst of your frequent dialogues with Brewster and Maturi.

Go ask your buddies these tough questions. I want to see what Brewster has to say about these concerns you have. And maybe a little skill, ask a follow up question or two if you don't feel he answers your question. And then if you're not satisfied still, tell him exactly what you think it looks like he's saying and how it's going to look when you write the story.
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Shame on you Schnoo, a lowly Holer poster, for telling Doogie how to function as a professional journalist.
 

Actually I am not the type to pile on (this is my first time ever) but the more Doogie posts the less I intelligent I think he is.

There. I did it. Hopefully never again.
 

NewEngland_Gold -- Journalist is a loose term, especially in this day-and-age of journalism ... When I was at KFAN, I was encouraged to give my opinion ... when I was at Rivals in the spring, that was more from the beat reporter angle ... beat reporters are supposed to be, for the most part, unbiased ... Marcus Fuller's game story on Sunday was different, but very well delivered I thought ... when I am on CHs 4 & 9, they want my opinion, same w/ AM 1500 KSTP and my Star Tribune blog ... more often than not, I am asked to state my opinion, and not take the beat reporter angle.
 


Doogie

Doogie said:
NewEngland_Gold -- Journalist is a loose term, especially in this day-and-age of journalism ... When I was at KFAN, I was encouraged to give my opinion ... when I was at Rivals in the spring, that was more from the beat reporter angle ... beat reporters are supposed to be, for the most part, unbiased ... Marcus Fuller's game story on Sunday was different, but very well delivered I thought ... when I am on CHs 4 & 9, they want my opinion, same w/ AM 1500 KSTP and my Star Tribune blog ... more often than not, I am asked to state my opinion, and not take the beat reporter angle.
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Fair enough.

As long as you are just stating your opinions here and elsewhere, you'll be on an equal footing with every other poster on the board.

No need, necessarily, to look too deeply for facts or reality in evaluating your opinions.
 

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