Future Gopher Coach Discussion

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At a program like this, this thread doesn't come too early. Even if it gets dusty at some point. I watched what happened to this program when Lucia was allowed to keep his job for two, if not three, extra seasons.

After almost seven full seasons, I have seen enough to know Motzko hockey. I'm out on the entire staff including goaltending coach, the skating coach if they still have one, and even the trainer as they get outworked so often.

Motzko has been too "smart" for the transfer portal, no longer gets any Mr. Hockeys (a big part of U hockey tradition), and too slow to hit up the CHL to start filling massive gaps for next year. He may lose all four first rounders this spring with zero in the pipeline. Of the three big transfers he did get: one did nothing here and then went to SCSU and was great, one sought him out moreso than a strong recruiting push (Wood), and the other was the same with Souliere basically calling him. Had he put in any effort before that, the Gophers would have a true number 1 between the pipes right now.

These Gopher teams have zero grit, play slowly, rely purely on skill, don't hit anybody... Special teams are a disaster and the PP has been poorly structured most seasons under Motzko. Goaltending recruiting and management is unacceptable for a program of this size. Soft teams that pass and pass and pass and then miss the net instead of getting shots on net to create rebounds and crash the net. They can't bury breakways because of lack of tight scoring skill which is reflected in the shootout.

It's a high likelihood Motzko's legacy is choking with the best roster in program history. Maybe the single biggest choke in program history as well.

It's possible they win a game or two this NCAA tourney. I see maybe a first round win. You will get your 20+ win seasons that go nowhere until he decides to retire or is encouraged to do so. Need to go better and younger with the next staff and that would not be hard to do.

As of March 9, 2025, my number one candidate for a clean sweep staff overhaul is Ben Barr and anyone he wants to bring. Better hope to land him before he pulls off a huge underdog program victory and gets Maine a title.
 
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I don't know much about Barr, obviously Maine is back in the national spotlight and having a good season. Other than him, the other coach I'd be interested in who we have no shot at landing would be Carle. Any other potential candidates?
 

I really don't feel like this is the time to be talking about replacing the coach. I've had my share of frustrations with some of his coaching and recruiting. That said, when this year is over, we will have been conference champions in 3 of the last 4 years (including this year where we shared it), won at least one NCAA tournament game in at least four of the last five seasons (this season still pending), and been in the frozen four at least two of the past four seasons (including an appearance in the title game).

Do i wish ihe recruited better goalies? Yes. Do i have some concerns with roster construction? Yes. Do i still blame him cor the way we played in the third period of the nation championship game that we should habe won? Yes. But at the end of the day, i think coaches should be evaluated based on how the sausage tastes, not how it was made. And through that lens, his track record of conference titles and NCAA tourney performance is not the kind of record that should have a coach's seat even starting to warm.

I feel like I'm living in the Twilight zone. I'm arguing here with people who think Motzko should go, and arguing on the basketball board with people that think Johnson should stay, even though the objective performance of both coaches tells me there shouldn't really be an argument on either point.
 

I don't know much about Barr, obviously Maine is back in the national spotlight and having a good season. Other than him, the other coach I'd be interested in who we have no shot at landing would be Carle. Any other potential candidates?
No shot at Carle. You have a shot at Barr.
 


I really don't feel like this is the time to be talking about replacing the coach. I've had my share of frustrations with some of his coaching and recruiting. That said, when this year is over, we will have been conference champions in 3 of the last 4 years (including this year where we shared it), won at least one NCAA tournament game in at least four of the last five seasons (this season still pending), and been in the frozen four at least two of the past four seasons (including an appearance in the title game).

Do i wish ihe recruited better goalies? Yes. Do i have some concerns with roster construction? Yes. Do i still blame him cor the way we played in the third period of the nation championship game that we should habe won? Yes. But at the end of the day, i think coaches should be evaluated based on how the sausage tastes, not how it was made. And through that lens, his track record of conference titles and NCAA tourney performance is not the kind of record that should have a coach's seat even starting to warm.

I feel like I'm living in the Twilight zone. I'm arguing here with people who think Motzko should go, and arguing on the basketball board with people that think Johnson should stay, even though the objective performance of both coaches tells me there shouldn't really be an argument on either point.
We don't care about Big Ten titles. Lucia had plenty. If they go one and done in the NCAA the season will be a disappointment based on the roster. Anyone monitoring the pipeline knows this is the last year of the title window.

Gopher hockey needs to be held to a higher standard and you need to monitor the trends and the future. The trend is teams that don't seem to care far too often. The future looks completely meh. The point is don't hold onto him too long like they did with Lucia.
 


David Carle NYT article

Could he be the kind of coach who stays in one place for decades? Or will he take the next challenge at the NHL, like his predecessors and mentors?

“I don’t think one is cooler or better than the other,” he says.

“He’s in a great city,” Shore says. “He makes a lot of money. I know as a competitor, he wants to win a Stanley Cup. So he’s going to go to the NHL. But he’s put himself in the position where he’s going to go when he thinks it’s right — when the team has a chance to be successful, when the pay is right, when the city is right. It’s almost like he had his best goal-scoring season coming up on his UFA year, right? He put himself in position where he has the luxury to wait and see what’s out there.”
 





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