FSN: Mankato West QB Nelson goes against family tradition

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That's an interesting tone to take in the article. I think Nelson has the potential to be a great QB for Minnesota, but that article makes it sound like he spurned scholarship offers from Iowa, Iowa State, Michigan State, Nebraska and, of course, Wisconsin in favor of Minnesota.
 

It doesn't even hint at that.

It says that he was being recruited by those schools when he decided that he liked Minnesota the best and he liked Minnesota more than Wisconsin.

Would WI have offered? I'm not sure, they have a pretty good QB in their class out of California. Had they not be able to land Bart Houston, i'm sure they would have liked Nelson as a safety blanket, but this is all completely speculative (to think WI would or would not have offered).

Offers are a strange thing though when you are looking at a recruit. Guys like Tommy Olson, Phil Nelson, or Nick Toon can't be judged by their offers because they committed so early and didn't look around after their commitments. None of us think that not another BCS conference team wouldn't have been extremely interested in any of these guys. My point...teams don't usually offer players that are 100% committed elsewhere.


But as to your original point, the writer didn't insinuate that at all. She wrote that he was being recruited by those schools. I should have guessed that a Badger fan living on a Gopher board would be ultra paranoid. It wasn't a shot to your program, she never hinted that WI offered, she simply stated that while being recruited by those schools (including WI) he decided he liked MN the best....that part seems pretty clear.
 

I recently saw highlights of this guy and he is well suited to run Kill's offense.
 

4four4 said:
I recently saw highlights of this guy and he is well suited to run Kill's offense.
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Yep, he's pretty ideal. I have no idea if he will turn out or not, it's a crap shoot with these young guys, but he is precisely the kind of QB that Chandler Harnish is (good runner, fairly athletic, but a natural passer).
 


Best of luck to the kid. We need to start making Minnesota / Wisconsin a rivalry again and the only way that happens if Minnesota gets better. But I had to chuckle when he said he liked Minnesota's offense better than Wisconsin's because it's more QB friendly.

You can pick a school for alot of reasons, but he couldn't play in a better offense than Wisconsin's for QBs. It's the same offense you see in the pro's.
 

Jdogg0821 said:
Best of luck to the kid. We need to start making Minnesota / Wisconsin a rivalry again and the only way that happens if Minnesota gets better. But I had to chuckle when he said he liked Minnesota's offense better than Wisconsin's because it's more QB friendly.

You can pick a school for alot of reasons, but he couldn't play in a better offense than Wisconsin's for QBs. It's the same offense you see in the pro's.
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What???!!! You should watch more football.
 

Jdogg0821 said:
Best of luck to the kid. We need to start making Minnesota / Wisconsin a rivalry again and the only way that happens if Minnesota gets better. But I had to chuckle when he said he liked Minnesota's offense better than Wisconsin's because it's more QB friendly.

You can pick a school for alot of reasons, but he couldn't play in a better offense than Wisconsin's for QBs. It's the same offense you see in the pro's.
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sconnie=QB U. What a joke!
 

If anyone has noticed Wisconsin commit Bart Houston's stats, they are God awful terrible. So bad that they have anounced a new 2013 recruit that is more like Russel Wilson. Nelson is 10 times better than Houston and will bring the ability to make PLAYs, something we desparately are looking for. The only question is if Kill can afford to redshirt him. And yes, Minnesota's offense is much different than Wisconsin's and is much better suited for Nelson.
 



Bob_Loblaw said:
It doesn't even hint at that.
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So when the picture's headline says that his father accepts his decision to choose Minnesota over Wisconsin, that doesn't hint that he turned down the opportunity to play at UW? Or multiple quotes in the story itself from him and his family saying they are happy he choose Minnesota over UW? To me that definitely sounds like a hint.

But whatever, like I said I think he's a very good player and could do very good things at Minnesota. I know Wisconsin evaluated him, but they had a few QBs higher on their board. Houston's stats have been very sub par this season. DeLaSalle runs a power triple option type offense, so that could be hurting the numbers, but many reports had him as a top 5 performer at the national Elite 11 camp. And if Chryst likes him that's good enough for me.
 

MNGopher3409 said:
If anyone has noticed Wisconsin commit Bart Houston's stats, they are God awful terrible. So bad that they have anounced a new 2013 recruit that is more like Russel Wilson. Nelson is 10 times better than Houston and will bring the ability to make PLAYs, something we desparately are looking for.
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So you are surprised that the Badger's would recruit a 2013 QB? Houston and Nelson are 2012 recruits, which has zero baring on what either team will do with their 2013 QB recruits. As for Nelson being 10 times better than Houston, you're entitled to your opinion.
 

MNGopher3409 said:
If anyone has noticed Wisconsin commit Bart Houston's stats, they are God awful terrible. So bad that they have anounced a new 2013 recruit that is more like Russel Wilson. Nelson is 10 times better than Houston and will bring the ability to make PLAYs, something we desparately are looking for. The only question is if Kill can afford to redshirt him. And yes, Minnesota's offense is much different than Wisconsin's and is much better suited for Nelson.
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Someone didn't do his homework.

He plays in a veer offense. Look that up and it will explain his statistics.

Then look at his game tape. You will see why he's ranked higher than Phillip Nelson, who I think is a great QB, btw.

Then look at 247sports, Rivals, Scout and ESPN, all of which have him ranked higher than Phillip Nelson....by a lot. There is a reason for it.
 

Houston is 41% accuracy, 3 TDs against 5 INTs. Sounds like a great fit for Wisconsin. And there is a reason as to ranking, its unfortunate.
 



Absolutely amazing....

Badger fans on this board during a Gopher bye week, during one of the worst seasons in history. I know it's tough living in Wisconsin but really?....

Your team is ranked in the top-10 with a schedule custom-made for a run at the BT title and you're hanging around on a message board of one of the worst teams in the conference.

There are literally no words that can accurately or adequately describe that mentality....
 

MNBadgerGuy said:
So when the picture's headline says that his father accepts his decision to choose Minnesota over Wisconsin, that doesn't hint that he turned down the opportunity to play at UW? Or multiple quotes in the story itself from him and his family saying they are happy he choose Minnesota over UW? To me that definitely sounds like a hint.

But whatever, like I said I think he's a very good player and could do very good things at Minnesota. I know Wisconsin evaluated him, but they had a few QBs higher on their board. Houston's stats have been very sub par this season. DeLaSalle runs a power triple option type offense, so that could be hurting the numbers, but many reports had him as a top 5 performer at the national Elite 11 camp. And if Chryst likes him that's good enough for me.
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I think you are reading a little bit too much into the headline. He was being recruited by Wisconsin (talking, mail, whatever...but no offer), he comes from a family of Badger fans so just the fact that he chose Minnesota without really pushing for the Badger offer, in his families eyes, means he chose Minnesota over the Badgers. The article is written from his families perspective so that's the way you have to look at it see the context of the quotes.

Also do you really think that if he hadn't committed to Minnesota and had gone to all the Badger camps, all the home games and with the way Russell Wilson has played this year (more of a dual threat QB like Nelson) that the Badgers wouldn't have offered?
 

MNBadgerGuy said:
So when the picture's headline says that his father accepts his decision to choose Minnesota over Wisconsin, that doesn't hint that he turned down the opportunity to play at UW? Or multiple quotes in the story itself from him and his family saying they are happy he choose Minnesota over UW? To me that definitely sounds like a hint.

But whatever, like I said I think he's a very good player and could do very good things at Minnesota. I know Wisconsin evaluated him, but they had a few QBs higher on their board. Houston's stats have been very sub par this season. DeLaSalle runs a power triple option type offense, so that could be hurting the numbers, but many reports had him as a top 5 performer at the national Elite 11 camp. And if Chryst likes him that's good enough for me.
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How would you know this, are you on the BADgers coaching staff? For all you know Nelson was their #1 choice and he turned them down.
 

John Galt said:
How would you know this, are you on the BADgers coaching staff? For all you know Nelson was their #1 choice and he turned them down.
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If that was the case, don't you think he would have received a Wisconsin offer? It's well documented that he never received an offer. Nelson said as much.
 

Ogee Oglethorpe said:
Absolutely amazing....

Badger fans on this board during a Gopher bye week, during one of the worst seasons in history. I know it's tough living in Wisconsin but really?....

Your team is ranked in the top-10 with a schedule custom-made for a run at the BT title and you're hanging around on a message board of one of the worst teams in the conference.

There are literally no words that can accurately or adequately describe that mentality....
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I'm a Badger fan from Minnesota, specifically Edina. I graduated from EHS in 2006. I know players on the Minnesota roster, I know former players who are in the NFL, and I know former players who left when Brewster was hired. I also know some Gopher recruits.

There is a reason I'm here. Not the least of which is that you are our main rival and knowing as much as I can about your program is an interest of mine. If that doesn't seem like a good enough reason for me to be here then I can't help you, but I'm not flaming the Gophers, I'm not doing anything wrong, and I'm not leaving.
 

Badger2010 said:
I'm a Badger fan from Minnesota, specifically Edina. I graduated from EHS in 2006. I know players on the Minnesota roster, I know former players who are in the NFL, and I know former players who left when Brewster was hired. I also know some Gopher recruits.

There is a reason I'm here. Not the least of which is that you are our main rival and knowing as much as I can about your program is an interest of mine for that reason. If that doesn't seem like a good enough reason for me to be here then I can't help you, but I'm not flaming the Gophers, I'm not doing anything wrong, and I'm not leaving.
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Another Edina kid going to Wisconsin. I never understood that growing up.
 

Badger2010 said:
If that was the case, don't you think he would have received a Wisconsin offer? It's well documented that he never received an offer. Nelson said as much.
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No. He committed to the Gophers in February and most offers haven't gone out that early. Bielema may have still been crying over the loss to TCU...

My point is this, I've never seen either of them play and have no idea who will be better. Neither do 95% of the posters on this board. I also have no idea how either team has ranked potential recruits, and I'm betting you don't either.
 

4four4 said:
Another Edina kid going to Wisconsin. I never understood that growing up.
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My dad went to UW. Been a lifelong Badger sports fan. I also liked the campus more. Wisconsin also has a better undergrad marketing program, which is what I majored in and I knew I wanted to do so before I left high school.
 

John Galt said:
No. He committed to the Gophers in February and most offers haven't gone out that early. Bielema may have still been crying over the loss to TCU...

My point is this, I've never seen either of them play and have no idea who will be better. Neither do 95% of the posters on this board. I also have no idea how either team has ranked potential recruits, and I'm betting you don't either.
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Wisconsin had already offered Gunner Keil, Zeke Pike and Bart Houston prior to Nelson's commitment to Wisconsin. Nelson was never offered by Wisconsin. Given the previous to facts, I think it's safe to say Nelson was not UW's top QB recruit.
 


Zeke Pike and Gunner Keil were offered, Houston was not even approached until Nelson committed to Minnesota. Nelson was very high on the list but was not willing to wait especially when he met Kill and got excited over the offense to be installed in Minnesota. He has a better opportunity to play much earlier at Minnesota. From previous articles on the subject, Wisconsin wasn't the top choice, it was actually Iowa, Michigan State, then Wisconsin before Kill came in the picture.
 

Badger2010 said:
My dad went to UW. Been a lifelong Badger sports fan. I also liked the campus more. Wisconsin also has a better undergrad marketing program, which is what I majored in and I knew I wanted to do so before I left high school.
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If you live in Minnesota now you are the typical sconnie fan we don't like. You grow up in Minnesota, think sconnie is such a great school and return here to work and live.

This whole QB conversation reeks of typical BADger talk "we cooled on him". "He doesn't fit in our system"
 

My fault. I could care less about the Badgers and haven't wasted any time looking to see when they offered QBs. I don't really put any stock in the scouting services, since it seems that most of the information they have isn't accurate to begin with.
 

It shows the insecurity of their fans. They have to come on to our board to justify the decision.
 

May as well give it up Badger2010. Many Gophers fans can't understand why anyone would be interested in the Gophers, let alone the fan of another team. There is no sense trying to explain it, just enjoy the comedy.

As for Nelson, if people want to think the Gophers stole him from Wisconsin, that is great. He could have waited for a Wisconsin offer and chose not to. Maybe it would have come, maybe not. Who knows. Maybe his feelings were hurt when he was not their first choice. I hope he has a great career for the Gophers.
 

GVBadger said:
May as well give it up Badger2010. Many Gophers fans can't understand why anyone would be interested in the Gophers, let alone the fan of another team. There is no sense trying to explain it, just enjoy the comedy.

As for Nelson, if people want to think the Gophers stole him from Wisconsin, that is great. He could have waited for a Wisconsin offer and chose not to. Maybe it would have come, maybe not. Who knows. Maybe his feelings were hurt when he was not their first choice. I hope he has a great career for the Gophers.
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That is precisely what everyone has been saying in this entire thread. You Badger fans that live on this board are so paranoid that someone might make dig at the Badgers that you start composing strawman arguments. It's not shocking with the kind of person that trolls at your age, but whatever.

Was Nelson WI's first choice? Nope, you'd have to think those were Kiel and the other QB they offered.

Was Nelson in their second group of potential choices? Sure looks like it. Bart was in that group as well, and like I said in my original posting, WI very well could have Bart anyway or they might not have, it's impossible really for any of us to say.

All the writer said was that he preferred MN to WI and he was ready to commit. It appeared that Nelson had a decent chance to get a WI offer when he commited here, but like you we've all said the entire time, who knows?

Again, it's not shocking that a grown man still trolling internet message boards would take an implied shot at a HS kid, but I highley doubt Nelson was hurt over not being anyone's first choice. The kid has handled the Gophers signing another QB without any hiccups. That's just not really indicative behavior of someone who would want to go to WI and be so upset that he wasn't the first offered that he'd choose to go to MN. Pretty big differences between the programs.
 

GVBadger said:
May as well give it up Badger2010. Many Gophers fans can't understand why anyone would be interested in the Gophers, let alone the fan of another team. There is no sense trying to explain it, just enjoy the comedy.
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Ummm.... there's a difference between being "interested in the Gophers" and immediately bolting to this board to defend your team whenever there's even the most remote sniff of disrespect dealt Bucky's way. Face it, it's absolutely laughable. It's really kind of hard to paint it any other way.

You're not the only ones. I even give Doogie crap for feeling the need to defend himself when people jump on him. The difference is, Doogie is a journalist who is tasked with covering the team.

Like I said, I've got nothing wrong with Bucky fan who has that kind of time on their hands, to be visiting this board, there's plenty of good information floating around and yes, some serious entertainment at times. More power to you. But when a post that slights the Badgers can't go up on this board for more than 30 minutes before Bucky Badger fan is on here refuting it, that's absolutely pathetic. Good grief, grow some thicker skin...
 

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