Fort Worth, TX WR Nnamdi Adim-Madumere commits to the Gophers

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Could this guy be Eric Decker 2.0?

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short ornery norwegian said:
Beating a dead horse here, but this, to me, is further proof the Star system is flawed. The consensus on this board is that the Gophers have a future star - who just happens to be a 3-star player. If he was a 4-star player, how much more hype would he be worth?

If I was running the universe, I would just eliminate the stars completely. Just give players a numerical grade, and we can say the Gophers signed a WR with a grade of .8817. that is clear and definite. no need to talk about a "low 3-star" or a "high 3-star." the grade is the grade.

on signing day, you add up the grades of all the recruits, divide, and have a team score. again, clear and definite. easy to rank and compare.
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The star system isn't perfect. For rubes like us??? It's a popular selling point for the rating sites. We can't evaluate every player. It's a projection. Doesn't mean that it should be discarded.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
Beating a dead horse here, but this, to me, is further proof the Star system is flawed. The consensus on this board is that the Gophers have a future star - who just happens to be a 3-star player. If he was a 4-star player, how much more hype would he be worth?

If I was running the universe, I would just eliminate the stars completely. Just give players a numerical grade, and we can say the Gophers signed a WR with a grade of .8817. that is clear and definite. no need to talk about a "low 3-star" or a "high 3-star." the grade is the grade.

on signing day, you add up the grades of all the recruits, divide, and have a team score. again, clear and definite. easy to rank and compare.
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But...but....8817 University just doesn't have the same ring to it as 3 [emoji294] University. [emoji56]
 

stocker08 said:
The star system isn't perfect. For rubes like us??? It's a popular selling point for the rating sites. We can't evaluate every player. It's a projection. Doesn't mean that it should be discarded.
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I’d feel more informed if in lieu of stars or numbers the agencies made a comparison to a current or former player. Hyperbole is more than welcome.
 


Okay, year three looks promising.

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short ornery norwegian said:
Beating a dead horse here, but this, to me, is further proof the Star system is flawed. The consensus on this board is that the Gophers have a future star - who just happens to be a 3-star player. If he was a 4-star player, how much more hype would he be worth?

If I was running the universe, I would just eliminate the stars completely. Just give players a numerical grade, and we can say the Gophers signed a WR with a grade of .8817. that is clear and definite. no need to talk about a "low 3-star" or a "high 3-star." the grade is the grade.

on signing day, you add up the grades of all the recruits, divide, and have a team score. again, clear and definite. easy to rank and compare.
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You are assuming that their is a true quantitative method of measuring talent. A number assigned to a player may make you feel like there is a definitive ranking, but it is just a made up number. Even as crude as the star system is where players are grouped together by the thousands, it doesn’t get it right.
 

alchemy2u said:
You are assuming that their is a true quantitative method of measuring talent. A number assigned to a player may make you feel like there is a definitive ranking, but it is just a made up number. Even as crude as the star system is where players are grouped together by the thousands, it doesn’t get it right.
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Fake numbers huh?
 

per Sid:

• P.J. Fleck continues to get commitments. The latest is Nnamdi Adim-Madumere of Fort Worth, Texas. He was sought by Baylor, Alabama, Boise State, Texas Tech and Texas A&M. Adim-Madumere has 34 receptions for 985 yards and 13 touchdowns in his high school career. The Gophers now have the second-best recruiting class in the Big Ten, according to 247Sports.

http://www.startribune.com/vikings-face-challenge-of-high-expectations-as-camp-nears/486363661/

Go Gophers!!
 



Ewert86PC said:
Okay, year three looks promising.

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But that's 4 years away!

JK.

This kid is definitely impressive from film. It'll be interesting to see where he ends up. Fleck's offenses at WMU didn't really feature a TE, but with recruits like Adim-Madumere and Spann-Ford, maybe it'll be different here. Both of those guys are absolutely massive for 17/18 year old WRs (not that it's a bad thing).

Our WR position is really starting to look promising.
 

BleedGopher said:
per Sid:

• P.J. Fleck continues to get commitments. The latest is Nnamdi Adim-Madumere of Fort Worth, Texas. He was sought by Baylor, Alabama, Boise State, Texas Tech and Texas A&M. Adim-Madumere has 34 receptions for 985 yards and 13 touchdowns in his high school career. The Gophers now have the second-best recruiting class in the Big Ten, according to 247Sports.

http://www.startribune.com/vikings-face-challenge-of-high-expectations-as-camp-nears/486363661/

Go Gophers!!
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Like this commit. Large guys that can run and catch well do not grow on trees. Hopefully he ends up helping the QB s when he get here.

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Bob_Loblaw said:
But that's 4 years away!

JK.

This kid is definitely impressive from film. It'll be interesting to see where he ends up. Fleck's offenses at WMU didn't really feature a TE, but with recruits like Adim-Madumere and Spann-Ford, maybe it'll be different here. Both of those guys are absolutely massive for 17/18 year old WRs (not that it's a bad thing).

Our WR position is really starting to look promising.
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4 years? It could be even 5 or 6 the way Fleck counts.
 




short ornery norwegian said:
Beating a dead horse here, but this, to me, is further proof the Star system is flawed. The consensus on this board is that the Gophers have a future star - who just happens to be a 3-star player. If he was a 4-star player, how much more hype would he be worth?

If I was running the universe, I would just eliminate the stars completely. Just give players a numerical grade, and we can say the Gophers signed a WR with a grade of .8817. that is clear and definite. no need to talk about a "low 3-star" or a "high 3-star." the grade is the grade.

on signing day, you add up the grades of all the recruits, divide, and have a team score. again, clear and definite. easy to rank and compare.
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I get what you are saying. I think I like your route or something more so, if you have 4 division 1 scholarship options you are 1 star, 5-8 scholarships 2 star, etc. Use whatever numbers you want, but let the college coaches dictate the number of stars a kid is.
 

MNfootballfan said:
I get what you are saying. I think I like your route or something more so, if you have 4 division 1 scholarship options you are 1 star, 5-8 scholarships 2 star, etc. Use whatever numbers you want, but let the college coaches dictate the number of stars a kid is.
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I don't think that is what he is saying. He is saying drop the stars and just use the grade numbers.
 

MNfootballfan said:
I get what you are saying. I think I like your route or something more so, if you have 4 division 1 scholarship options you are 1 star, 5-8 scholarships 2 star, etc. Use whatever numbers you want, but let the college coaches dictate the number of stars a kid is.
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A. That isn't what he's saying.

B. Your proposed rating system is terrible. Let's say you have two prospects. One has offers from every school in the MAC, Sun Belt, and C-USA (so 35-40 offers) - but no Power 5 offers. The other has 10 offers, and 7 of them are from Power 5 schools. I know which one I'd want - but the first one would be way more highly rated under your proposed system.
 

dpodoll68 said:
A. That isn't what he's saying.

B. Your proposed rating system is terrible. Let's say you have two prospects. One has offers from every school in the MAC, Sun Belt, and C-USA (so 35-40 offers) - but no Power 5 offers. The other has 10 offers, and 7 of them are from Power 5 schools. I know which one I'd want - but the first one would be way more highly rated under your proposed system.
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Yep, and guys who commit early or don't entertain schools interest wouldn't have nearly the quality or quantity of offers compared to guys who waits it out.

Also a player with poor grades or character won't have the number of offers that he should have given his talent level. That wouldn't affect his star rating and would be a more accurate indication of his talent level than offers would be in that case.
 

dpodoll68 said:
A. That isn't what he's saying.

B. Your proposed rating system is terrible. Let's say you have two prospects. One has offers from every school in the MAC, Sun Belt, and C-USA (so 35-40 offers) - but no Power 5 offers. The other has 10 offers, and 7 of them are from Power 5 schools. I know which one I'd want - but the first one would be way more highly rated under your proposed system.
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I know both of us weren't saying the same thing. I said I like his idea and another, but separate idea, I like was that. Obviously, you could weight the scholarship offers where a P5 is higher rated than a lower level.

I really don't care about the star rating at all. I would rather have a recruiting class of all 4 and 5 stars, but I would also want an Eric Decker over Hayo Carpenter. It is like the NFL Draft, you can think a player is going to be good, but no one in the world will know how good he will be until he is on the field. Look at David Cobb - he went from not being able to get on the field to being one of top 5-10 running backs in school history once he got a chance.
 

Remember when this thread was about Nnamdi Adim-Madumere?

Good times.
 







This forum needs a moderator like the Gophers need a QB.

On topic, what are the odds of Adim-Madumere moving to TE? He has a similar size to Maxx Williams. Could be a beast the same way Maxx was.
 

magpie said:
This forum needs a moderator like the Gophers need a QB.

On topic, what are the odds of Adim-Madumere moving to TE? He has a similar size to Maxx Williams. Could be a beast the same way Maxx was.
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That hinges on how the Gopher's offense plans to use the TE? Under Kill, the TE got a lot of targets. (helps to have players like Lingen and Williams). Supposedly, Fleck's offense at WMU - which is presumably similar to what they're running at MN - did not use the TE as a top pass-catching option - but was more of a blocker and safety-valve receiver.

So, if NA-M is really a top receiver, would he be used to his full potential at TE? Labels are all relatively, anyway. There are schemes that put the TE out in space a lot, where the position functions like another WR. If he can catch the ball, throw him the ball.
 




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