Forget Hayden Fry. Think Gary Patterson.

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Yesterday I wrote my first posts for this message board. They focused on the fact that I'm a Gopher fan who's lived in Iowa for almost forty years and witnessed what Hayden Fry did for the Iowa football program. Jerry Kill reminds me A LOT of Hayden Fry.
But forget about that. The guy we need to learn everything we can about is TCU's great football coach, Gary Patterson. Kill and Patterson are like peas in a pod. Both come from Kansas, grew under the same head coach (Patterson's predecessor at TCU) and believe in the same philosophies. As we all know, the two are so close personally that Kill was the best man in Patterson's wedding. They also talk constantly about coaching in today's every changing enviroment.
So, I encourage everyone here to read all you can about Gary Patterson and why he has been so successful at TCU. What you read is what we'll see with Kill at the University of Minnesota.
 

I think you're dead-on. Not to knock Patterson at all, but Kill is probably an even harder worker.

My new favorite Kill quote: "I'd give my life for this program".
 

His name is "Kill" not "Die". Are you sure he didn't say, "I'd take a life for this program?" :)
 

I wonder if Coach Kill thanked Patterson for 'passing' on the Gopher job.:cool02:
 

Except for the fact that Patterson is in a State that produces a couple hundred Division 1 players a year, it is probably a good comparison.

I really like everything I have read and heard about Kill. It is not going to be as much fun beating the Gophers every year now that Brewster is gone. :)
 


GVBadger said:
It is not going to be as much fun beating the Gophers every year now that Brewster is gone. :)
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It always amazed me how universally despised Brewster was in the conference. Was it just Brewster's bravado that turned people off or was there more to it?
 

highwayman said:
I think you're dead-on. Not to knock Patterson at all, but Kill is probably an even harder worker.My new favorite Kill quote: "I'd give my life for this program".
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How in the world would you know whether one is a harder worker than another?
 

gophmeister said:
It always amazed me how universally despised Brewster was in the conference. Was it just Brewster's bravado that turned people off or was there more to it?
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That was probably most of it. Well, that combined with his lack of success. The bravado probably bugged more folks when he never backed it up.
 

LonelyIowaGopher said:
Yesterday I wrote my first posts for this message board. They focused on the fact that I'm a Gopher fan who's lived in Iowa for almost forty years and witnessed what Hayden Fry did for the Iowa football program. Jerry Kill reminds me A LOT of Hayden Fry.
But forget about that. The guy we need to learn everything we can about is TCU's great football coach, Gary Patterson. Kill and Patterson are like peas in a pod. Both come from Kansas, grew under the same head coach (Patterson's predecessor at TCU) and believe in the same philosophies. As we all know, the two are so close personally that Kill was the best man in Patterson's wedding. They also talk constantly about coaching in today's every changing enviroment.
So, I encourage everyone here to read all you can about Gary Patterson and why he has been so successful at TCU. What you read is what we'll see with Kill at the University of Minnesota.
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I hope you are right!!! Like I have said many times on this board, I would rather the Gophers win a Rose Bowl then the Vikes win a Super Bowl!!!

I was born in 67 so I have never seen a New Year's Day Bowl game let alone a Conference Champ!!! I am behind Coach Kill, I just hope he can get the job done!!! I know it takes a lot of behind the scenes people working together, and I am not just talking Football people either, with a common goal!! Rose Bowl, competitive team year after year, Conference Champs not Chumps! aka Brewster!! Wacker! at least Wacker was a good guy!!! Not a great coach though.

Earlier, I posted that all I want for Christmas and this coaching search is:
1. A coach with Head Coaching experience! Check
2. Asst. coaches that have been with said HC a long time: Check
3. Solid Defense: time will tell, if past experience is an indicator, looks good
4. An Offense with an identity: time will tell, if past experience is an indicator, looks good
5. Graduate players:time will tell, if past experience is an indicator, looks good
6. Prepare players for next level:time will tell, if past experience is an indicator, looks good
7. Be humble: time will tell, if past experience is an indicator, looks good

Go Gophers!! I think the program is a sleeping giant!! After all the Vikes are going to LA in few years!!!
 



Brewster was liked within the Big 10 for many reasons.

Tim Brewster's first appearance at the Big 10 Conference, football pre-season gathering in Chicago before he ever coached a game was not well received by other coaches, to put things mildly. He pointed out coach after coach and predicted that he would beat them all.
I even read in one of the college football magazines that comes out annually that other coaching staffs thought Brewster and his staff were arrogant as can be. Everybody who's saying anything about Jerry Kill is saying that they love the guy.
 

highwayman said:
I think you're dead-on. Not to knock Patterson at all, but Kill is probably an even harder worker.

My new favorite Kill quote: "I'd give my life for this program".
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GopherGod said:
How in the world would you know whether one is a harder worker than another?
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Did you read my post? Read it again. He's gotten a lot out of lesser player talent than Patterson has...
 

highwayman said:
Did you read my post? Read it again. He's gotten a lot out of lesser player talent than Patterson has...
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I just don't get why you would even say that, there is no way that you can even make an educated case about who is the harder worker, that is unless you have spent significant time with both coaches and know their work habits personally. You then follow it up with the bolded statement above. Patterson has also gotten alot out of lesser player talent and it is hard to say who has maximized the talent more. Does Patterson have more talent to work with, yes but he also has achieved greater results against higher level competition, so you cannot say definitively who has maximized the talent more between the two. I give Kill tons of credit for what he has done in the past and hopes to do here, but it doesn't have to come at the expense of Patterson.
 





LonelyIowaGopher said:
Tim Brewster's first appearance at the Big 10 Conference, football pre-season gathering in Chicago before he ever coached a game was not well received by other coaches, to put things mildly. He pointed out coach after coach and predicted that he would beat them all.
I even read in one of the college football magazines that comes out annually that other coaching staffs thought Brewster and his staff were arrogant as can be. Everybody who's saying anything about Jerry Kill is saying that they love the guy.
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In Athlon this year there were anonymous quotes from coaches and none of them were very flattering. I was working a lot of long hours early in the Brewster era and I remember only a handful of things:

  1. Gopher Nation!
  2. Harold Howell
  3. Seeing him skyway in the TCF bank building
  4. Losing
  5. Signing a top 20 class
 

LonelyIowaGopher said:
Tim Brewster's first appearance at the Big 10 Conference, football pre-season gathering in Chicago before he ever coached a game was not well received by other coaches, to put things mildly. He pointed out coach after coach and predicted that he would beat them all.
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What a crock of bullsh*t. There is no way in hell Brewster did or said anything like that. Lonely, you haven't had a good start in GopherHole. Truth and accuracy means everything.
 

UpnorthGo4 said:
What a crock of bullsh*t. There is no way in hell Brewster did or said anything like that. Lonely, you haven't had a good start in GopherHole. Truth and accuracy means everything.
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I specifically remember him bringing up Lloyd Carr and telling him that he (the gophs) were coming for him. Brewster came in like a lion and performed like a lamb. I prefer coaches to take a "speak softly and carry a big stick" philosophy over Brew's sensationalistic approach.
 

MNBadgerGuy said:
I specifically remember him bringing up Lloyd Carr and telling him that he (the gophs) were coming for him. Brewster came in like a lion and performed like a lamb. I prefer coaches to take a "speak softly and carry a big stick" philosophy over Brew's sensationalistic approach.
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I agree with you in how you would like a coach to speak but the problem wasn't Brew's sensationalism. It was not winning. You can be as cocky and loud as you want as long as you bring results (see Rex Ryan). Likewise being humble isn't going to save you if you are getting trounced on the field.
 

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