Football Strategy Discussion - Jacksonville going for 2 last night

WHB Brewer

Active member
Joined
Jan 11, 2009
Messages
732
Reaction score
134
Points
43
Not just to evert team, but by in game situations. The games are played on a field not on a spreadsheet. The analytics should be a tool, not the final decision. I want my coach to know what the analytics say, but also to know their limitations. If the chart says go for 2, but it's a close call, and your go to 2 point conversion play leans on your right guard winning a battle, but your right guard has been getting beat all night, may want to consider kicking. I think I heard Fleck say once that a decision to go for it or punt came down to how amped up and confident the players were in the huddle when he asked if they should go for it.

People say things like "if it works the coach is a genius, if he doesn't, he's any idiot" as though that is an unfair way to evaluate coaching decisions. On the contrary, that is why coaches get the big bucks. The decision needs to factor in countless considerations, most of which fans don't have insight into. Nuances of data, what the data does and doesn't factor in, personnel, game conditions, how each individual player is doing. At the end of the day, the coach needs to make a call on whether, in light of that, they think they can get it. Seems obvious, but going for 2 never pays off it you don't get it, and it's always worth it if you do.
I agree with this . Would also add that Jax was playing with house money at that point after being down 27-0. They were not expected to win, why not be more of the win in regulation mindset and not take chances in OT. They had LA on the ropes and a near certain 2pt play from the 1yd line. I thought it was a good call
 

Ope3

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 12, 2008
Messages
5,291
Reaction score
3,232
Points
113
I agree with this . Would also add that Jax was playing with house money at that point after being down 27-0. They were not expected to win, why not be more of the win in regulation mindset and not take chances in OT. They had LA on the ropes and a near certain 2pt play from the 1yd line. I thought it was a good call
Yeah, with ball moved to the 1 yd line, I liked the call to go for 2.
 

bleedsmaroonandgold

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 5, 2011
Messages
6,245
Reaction score
736
Points
113
I agree with this . Would also add that Jax was playing with house money at that point after being down 27-0. They were not expected to win, why not be more of the win in regulation mindset and not take chances in OT. They had LA on the ropes and a near certain 2pt play from the 1yd line. I thought it was a good call
Also loved the way Detroit handled the end of the game that knocked Green Bay out. It is amazing how much better coaches coach when they feel like they are playing with house money and have nothing to lose.
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 21, 2015
Messages
20,960
Reaction score
8,958
Points
113
Also loved the way Detroit handled the end of the game that knocked Green Bay out. It is amazing how much better coaches coach when they feel like they are playing with house money and have nothing to lose.
I think Detroit went for two and made it vs the Vikings… last year? They almost won but the Vikings made a field goal.

I liked the call.
 

Bob_Loblaw

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 23, 2009
Messages
17,800
Reaction score
10,264
Points
113
Yeah, with ball moved to the 1 yd line, I liked the call to go for 2.
I think with the ball at the 1 the 2 PT actually is the better bet than the extra point. It's over 50%.
 



MNVCGUY

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 8, 2011
Messages
15,729
Reaction score
12,501
Points
113
I think with the ball at the 1 the 2 PT actually is the better bet than the extra point. It's over 50%.
The craziest part about that 2PT play was that SD had almost nobody in the middle of the field to try and stop Lawrence from doing exactly what he did. Lawrence was probably grinning from ear to ear knowing there was no way that D would be able to stop him from just reaching his arm out for the conversion.

From the 1 I do agree that it was probably much easier to make that call and it very well may have been less risky than a kick at that point. Their coach said if the penalty wasn't called he probably would have kicked the extra point.
 




Top Bottom