Fleck says MN is putting much greater emphasis on recruiting and developing high school athletes than through Portal

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Per Tanick:

Fleck deemed the success of Indiana University, college football’s all-time most losing dormant, as an undefeated national championship this year “the greatest turnaround of an athletic team of all time” and “the greatest sports achievement in our lifetime.”

While the Gophers are “striving” to reach similar heights, Fleck said he is “striving to make it happen in a different way,” referring to a much greater emphasis on recruiting and developing high school athletes, who comprise about 80% of the roster, compared to 20% of players coming through the portal. Fleck de-emphasized the importance of the portal to the team’s fortunes, differentiating the heavy reliance on that device by Indiana whose mature players this season had an average age of 23.5 years old due to periodic portal transfers, a few years older than most other college teams.


Go Gophers!!
 



For this to work, they have to really be good at the evaluation of high school recruits and then keep the best ones in the system, but that may take a lot of cash to do. It works if you can keep a core of players (especially O- and D-linemen) in the system for continuity and then sprinkle in guys through the portal to fill in open spots. But he's really going to have to keep his top-tier of high school recruits in town for their entire eligibility. If he doesn't do that, we'll basically be a farm team.
 




Maybe what they have to do as not enough NIL to get best transfers as well as keep top undergrads. The portal has a lot of mercenaries who wouldn't necessarily care about RTB.
 


I hope I’m wrong. In this climate, saying we are going to suddenly recruit and develop without losing players in great numbers to the portal… well, it sort of feels like the beginning of the end.
We haven't lost a lot of top guys to the portal, maybe 2 a year.
 




This mentality does breed some consistency. I will agree with that. Also it probably limits the ceiling. Regardless if he continues to be around .500 in the B10 and wins 2-3 NC games every year I consider that successful. I think it would be way easier for him to leave and the program to sink into a 3-4 win team than it would be to improve to a perennial 10 win team.
 

I hope I’m wrong. In this climate, saying we are going to suddenly recruit and develop without losing players in great numbers to the portal… well, it sort of feels like the beginning of the end.
Yeah, it's better than saying we can't afford the portal as much as other teams so we have to rely on high school, but that's about it.
 

It's easy to say the Gophers should be mostly transfers, especially with the glow of Indiana's massive turnaround fresh in everyone's minds. Win with a bunch of 23 year olds. Only have proven players.

But...not everyone can get the transfers they want. Even those who get the transfers they want might pick the wrong guys.

Other major CFB programs have been transfer mills, like Deion's Colorado teams, and have not done as well as the Gophers, let alone Indiana.

Relying too much on transfers can turn Gopher Football into something like Gopher Basketball, cycling through a brand new team every season with no continuity.

The core of Cignetti's team was transfers, but ones he recruited as high schoolers to play at James Madison.
 



This is the Gopher hockey model. Playing 18-20 year olds against 23 year olds. Not sure it will work. Still going to need to find about 5 starters in the portal every year.
 

This mentality does breed some consistency. I will agree with that. Also it probably limits the ceiling. Regardless if he continues to be around .500 in the B10 and wins 2-3 NC games every year I consider that successful. I think it would be way easier for him to leave and the program to sink into a 3-4 win team than it would be to improve to a perennial 10 win team.
I agree

I don’t think this is a bad strategy to be running a program that tries to be 8-4 +\- 3 wins every year.

The best strategy for a program who is 15th in money may be different than the program that’s funded 30th
 

More teams may be jumping on the Indiana model and trying to build through the portal, which could possibly leave more talent to be found in at the high school level?
 

I get saying this as we wont get the high quality athlete transfers..... BUT.... Perich is an example of what happens through this approach. I hope it works..... I do think PJ should hsve some contract language towards expectations. I also think more money needs to be thrown towards his Assistant pool after this upcoming year (when we see if there needs to be changes made).
 

I'm not putting a lot of stock into something that somebody I've never heard of claims was said behind closed doors.
 

I actually think this might be a good strategy. If you rely on the portal and you don't have as much NIL money as other places (I am assuming this to be true for football at least), then aren't you fighting a losing battle by competing with those schools for the same top transfers? And if for example Ohio State is going to take 75% of it's roster through the portal, then by definition they are limiting the number of high school recruits that they bring in. That lessens the competition for these same high school recruits. The Gophers could logically see higher ranked recruiting classes each year. PJ could sell his approach by saying to the high schoolers... "hey, if you come here, you are one of our guys. We are NOT going to turn this roster over each year in a significant way. You will compete against the guys here for playing time, but generally not against guys from other schools who we'll bring in every year. We are a development program focused on you. We'll get you ready for the NFL. We do have NIL funds available too. And this is a life program, etc, etc. etc." That is a unique approach in today's environment. And I think it's logical that you wouldn't have to spend as much NIL money to keep a happy player here as you would to lure top players away from somewhere else. I think we have a much better shot with this approach.
 

I think Flecks niche when it comes to getting great athletes is tapping into the parents/grandparents and selling them the life program.
 

As long as he isn't stubborn and goes to the portal more when needed, it should work.

I think last season we could have used more/better transfers.
 

I hope I’m wrong. In this climate, saying we are going to suddenly recruit and develop without losing players in great numbers to the portal… well, it sort of feels like the beginning of the end.

Yeah. Feels like a plan to be a feeder program. It's a risk. Maybe a good risk and only real option as the Gophs won't compete head to head with the big $$ programs. One way to success is having another 2019 or better season to develop a reputation and build from that. However, if Clemson can't do it that way...
 

Maybe that makes the most sense NIL wise. Getting the best transfers is typically more expensive than a highly ranked high schooler. Keeping them is still difficult but having them here for a year or two is better than not at all if you can’t afford the transfer market.
 

I hope I’m wrong. In this climate, saying we are going to suddenly recruit and develop without losing players in great numbers to the portal… well, it sort of feels like the beginning of the end.
We really haven’t lost a ton in the portal. Being able to retain guys like Anthony Smith speaks to getting some loyalty and ability to retain. If Fleck had another $2m for his assistant pool we’d be top 25 every year and at times challenging for CFP.
 

Yeah. Feels like a plan to be a feeder program. It's a risk. Maybe a good risk and only real option as the Gophs won't compete head to head with the big $$ programs. One way to success is having another 2019 or better season to develop a reputation and build from that. However, if Clemson can't do it that way...
So the question is, is this a change in philosophy or just Fleck articulating what our strategy is and has been in regards to high school and the portal?

Because if it is business as usual then to this point it has not made us into a feeder program in fact has been just the opposite. Outside of a couple guys we have managed to keep our top guys around with very few key contributors electing to transfer out.
 

Who knows, at some point, we might find some extremely highly rated players picking the good development programs out of HS to get playing time if the dollars are at least somewhat within range. For example, do you think Oregon shared with their 5-star incoming HS safety before he signed that they would be grabbing a former Freshman All American safety out of the portal to replace the guy headed to the NFL?
 

Maybe what they have to do as not enough NIL to get best transfers as well as keep top undergrads. The portal has a lot of mercenaries who wouldn't necessarily care about RTB.
Because so many top teams now rely on the portal for big numbers each year, a helpful mathematical certainty (for next tier teams) occurs: there will be fewer spots on the top teams for top HS players than there once were. The five stars and highest rated four stars will all still find a place on those teams. But many four stars and higher-rated three stars will have to look one tier below the helmet + nouveau riche schools for a place to land out of HS. {This is actually happening now.} The Gophs are now getting more four stars than they used to (so, of course, are Iowa and some others of our ilk), and that trend should continue. If PJ can smartly farm this opportunity and then apply NIL and revenue sharing efficiently over the years, he should be able to keep many of the best players he develops (e.g., Anthony Smith, Darius Taylor, Drake Lindsay), though he might lose a few with the absolute highest market value (e.g., Koi Perich)--though only after those highest value players have helped the team for a couple of seasons.

A HS development program--one now starting off with higher rated recruits--will form the team's base; PJ will add selectively and efficiently from the transfer portal each year to fill gaps. It is a good strategy, I think, for a school in the Gophers' financial strata to maximize outcomes. A high likelihood design for a national championship team? Probably not. A high likelihood design for consecutive winning seasons with occasions of being ranked and maybe even a sniff at the CFP? Yes. If a financial backer like Phil Knight shows up, the design can change. Until then, folks can complain about not winning national championships, but I'll happily accept a strategy, consistently applied, that aims to maximize outcomes given the actual and relative state of the team's financial resources.

Some think that PJ's strategy is stupid because the helmet schools will simply steal all our good players. Again, I think the math portrays the improbability of this fear. There are 136 Div I football teams and 129 more in Div II (and many more in Div III and junior colleges). If, say, the top 15 Div I teams are the only "predators" the Gophers must fear, those predators will have more than 25,000 players on lesser schools to pick over each year. Yet, even if the top 15 schools turnover a quarter of their roster annually solely in transfer portal players (most actually won't get near this number except in a troubled year), that would cap at about 450 the number of players the top 15 predators will gobble up annually through the portal. And most of these 450 players will be "lateral transfers" from other helmet schools, plus "back fill," "depth" and "upside chance" players; only a few, maybe 75?, will be outright steals of top performing players from schools on the Gophers' and lower tiers.

The Gophers, because of the substantial revenue-sharing and NIL they do have, are in the next financial tier: they, along with 245 other schools, are "prey" to the top 15; they are uneasy roommates with the next 25 or so; and they are a sheer predator as to the remaining, giant flock of prey. It simply cannot be as bad for the Gophers--"we'll just be a farm team"--as the Chicken Little types feel. It is mathematically impossible. There are simply too many other "develppment" schools who are simultaneously prey for the truly few helmet + nouveau riche schools. The Gophers will keep the vast majority of the top players the team develops, but will occasionally lose a tippy-top player whose obscenely high market value rationally outstrips his deep loyalty to the Gophers. And we'll just spread that guy's earmarked payments to other players we want to keep or grab in the portal.

I think PJ is at his best when adapting to situations like this, where he can methodically consult and plan over time, and adopt strategies that are essentially within his own control. He is trying to find the best way for the Gophs to live smartly and prosper within their budget. He might continue to stub his toe on lightning reaction, game day matters--where he isn't always at his best--but I think he and his coaches are maturing in that aspect too. Maybe a little less obsessive micro-managing, more up-tempo play, and let Drake cook? Go Gophers!
 
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I'm waiting for the first major FBS school to completely cease high school recruiting and be very open about it. Will happen soon. Doesn't mean it will work for them but someone's going to try it.
 

Who knows, at some point, we might find some extremely highly rated players picking the good development programs out of HS to get playing time if the dollars are at least somewhat within range. For example, do you think Oregon shared with their 5-star incoming HS safety before he signed that they would be grabbing a former Freshman All American safety out of the portal to replace the guy headed to the NFL?
I don't really bother trying to compare our situation to places like Oregon because they are completely different (this was true before the big chages of the last few years as well).

The reality of college football is that there are going to be the handful of top teams that are competing at a different level then most of the rest. The new landscape has shifted that some and allowed a team like Indiana to join the club but it is still a pretty small group of big spenders and much as we would love to be it is highly unlikely that we ever join that particular club.

We live in that huge jumble of teams in that next tier below the top teams. Trying to figure out a way to assemble a roster good enough to get into the playoff from time to time.
 

I'm waiting for the first major FBS school to completely cease high school recruiting and be very open about it. Will happen soon. Doesn't mean it will work for them but someone's going to try it.
I don't know that anyone will be able to totally drop high school recruiting but Deion Sanders is basically doing this at Colorado. For the upcoming season he has 12 high school commits and 42 transfers.

Last year he had 15 high school guys and 34 transfers.
 




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