Fleck Delivers Commencement Speech at CSOM (video)

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University of Minnesota football coach P.J. Fleck delivered two commencement speeches earlier this week to graduates of the Carlson School of Management.

Graduation was held at 3M Arena at Mariucci on Monday and Fleck gave a stirring speech to both graduate and undergraduate students in two separate ceremonies.

You can watch the full undergraduate graduation ceremony here with Coach Fleck's speech beginning near the 26-minute mark.


Go Gophers!!
 

One of the top business schools in the nation and they want a person who scored a 17 and his ACT to offer guidance? Each student paid around 120,000 for that degree. I Hope he inspires them to row the boat.
 

Tommyboy said:
One of the top business schools in the nation and they want a person who scored a 17 and his ACT to offer guidance? Each student paid around 120,000 for that degree. I Hope he inspires them to row the boat.
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Sounds like someone is jealous.
You do realize an ACT score isn't the be-all end-all evaluation of a human being, right? There can be many reasons why someone might get a low score on an ACT. PJ seems to be doing ok.
 




Tommyboy said:
One of the top business schools in the nation and they want a person who scored a 17 and his ACT to offer guidance? Each student paid around 120,000 for that degree. I Hope he inspires them to row the boat.
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The world is filled with successful businessmen and businesswomen that never went to college, let alone took a standardized test. One would have to score pretty low on their own ACT to think otherwise.
 



There are a lot of 80 year old fools. There is a reason why there are standardized testing. It is to eliminate the knuckleheads. I always see the smartest kids in the class getting highest scores. You never see someone say well he is a good WR even though he runs a 5.3 40 yard dash.
 




Tommyboy said:
There are a lot of 80 year old fools. There is a reason why there are standardized testing. It is to eliminate the knuckleheads. I always see the smartest kids in the class getting highest scores. You never see someone say well he is a good WR even though he runs a 5.3 40 yard dash.
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I met quite a few knuckleheads with hight ACT scores in colleges, and quite a few very smart people with low ACT scores. It's been proven that standardized testing really tests your ability to take a test rather than your actual "intelligence" or how well you retained the knowledge you were taught through highschool
 


Tommyboy said:
One of the top business schools in the nation and they want a person who scored a 17 and his ACT to offer guidance? Each student paid around 120,000 for that degree. I Hope he inspires them to row the boat.
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I'd actually argue that's exactly who they need to hear from. They've spent the last few years being around people who have tested well and around professors who did well in academia too. They are going into a business world with people who did, but also didn't. Sounds like he's the perfect person to speak to them.
 



Tommyboy said:
There are a lot of 80 year old fools. There is a reason why there are standardized testing. It is to eliminate the knuckleheads. I always see the smartest kids in the class getting highest scores. You never see someone say well he is a good WR even though he runs a 5.3 40 yard dash.
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This also isn't true. Most colleges don't require the ACT anymore because it didn't prove it's value. It's one data point to be used along with many others.
 

Gopherfan84 said:
I'd actually argue that's exactly who they need to hear from. They've spent the last few years being around people who have tested well and around professors who did well in academia too. They are going into a business world with people who did, but also didn't. Sounds like he's the perfect person to speak to them.
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OH man story time.

I worked with some folks who got their MBA straight out of undergrad (that shouldn't be a thing IMO) and they were quite a collection of ... people.

Absolutely sort of "business-academically minded". They'd explain their idea as if the outcome and logic were obvious and just couldn't understand / work with anyone who didn't operate that way. They just smelled of no experience working with other people. They couldn't handle failure, they couldn't work with other departments / people. They just about died having to work with anyone blue collar-ish / didn't understand how those folks would handle their polices. 100% the kind of folks who would put up a "Is this good for the company?" banner without thinking twice / understanding why it might not have the impact they expect.

It was like they were from some bizzaro world.

 

Tommyboy said:
There are a lot of 80 year old fools. There is a reason why there are standardized testing. It is to eliminate the knuckleheads. I always see the smartest kids in the class getting highest scores. You never see someone say well he is a good WR even though he runs a 5.3 40 yard dash.
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Didn't your kid turn down ivy league offers to play at St Thomas? That doesn't seem very smart...
 

In many ways I don't think that graduation speeches should be taken all that seriously. In Pat Conroy's, My losing season, he wrote something to the effect that, there are few things less memorable than graduation speeches. I've heard my share and I think that he's on to something.
 

denguegopher said:
In many ways I don't think that graduation speeches should be taken all that seriously. In Pat Conroy's, My losing season, he wrote something to the effect that, there are few things less memorable than graduation speeches. I've heard my share and I think that he's on to something.
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Oh god I remember one that someone thought would be a good idea to turn into a history of fabric flammability and safety.

It just wouldn’t end….
 

Gopherfan84 said:
This also isn't true. Most colleges don't require the ACT anymore because it didn't prove it's value. It's one data point to be used along with many others.
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Spot on here. It's a quirky test and basically measures how well you prepared for the exam, not how intelligent you are. One point among many and not to be completely disregarded, though certainly biased toward those with the resources to spend a lot of time and money on preparation.
 

Tommyboy said:
One of the top business schools in the nation and they want a person who scored a 17 and his ACT to offer guidance? Each student paid around 120,000 for that degree. I Hope he inspires them to row the boat.
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Kind of a miserable little douche, aren't you?

I paid $100K+ for my PharmD (plus undergrad) and literally have zero recollection of the speaker for either. I'm doing just fine. I'm guessing at least some of these kids will remember and tell the story of PJ at their commencement. Mission accomplished.
 


A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
Oh god I remember one that someone thought would be a good idea to turn into a history of fabric flammability and safety.

It just wouldn’t end….
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Can't believe you have not extinguished that from your memory...😉
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
OH man story time.

I worked with some folks who got their MBA straight out of undergrad (that shouldn't be a thing IMO) and they were quite a collection of ... people.

Absolutely sort of "business-academically minded". They'd explain their idea as if the outcome and logic were obvious and just couldn't understand / work with anyone who didn't operate that way. They just smelled of no experience working with other people. They couldn't handle failure, they couldn't work with other departments / people. They just about died having to work with anyone blue collar-ish / didn't understand how those folks would handle their polices. 100% the kind of folks who would put up a "Is this good for the company?" banner without thinking twice / understanding why it might not have the impact they expect.

It was like they were from some bizzaro world.

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Back when FedEx had great adds.
 

A_Slab_of_Bacon said:
OH man story time.

I worked with some folks who got their MBA straight out of undergrad (that shouldn't be a thing IMO) and they were quite a collection of ... people.

Absolutely sort of "business-academically minded". They'd explain their idea as if the outcome and logic were obvious and just couldn't understand / work with anyone who didn't operate that way. They just smelled of no experience working with other people. They couldn't handle failure, they couldn't work with other departments / people. They just about died having to work with anyone blue collar-ish / didn't understand how those folks would handle their polices. 100% the kind of folks who would put up a "Is this good for the company?" banner without thinking twice / understanding why it might not have the impact they expect.

It was like they were from some bizzaro world.

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What is also funny about that commercial is the Fred Smith (Founder of FedEx) story is kind of opposite of an academic approach. The guy went to Vegas and won enough to meet payroll in the very early days of the company. The company changed quite a bit after the Flying Tigers acquisition.
 

Tommyboy said:
One of the top business schools in the nation and they want a person who scored a 17 and his ACT to offer guidance? Each student paid around 120,000 for that degree. I Hope he inspires them to row the boat.
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You obviously didn't watch the speech.
 

Tommyboy said:
One of the top business schools in the nation and they want a person who scored a 17 and his ACT to offer guidance? Each student paid around 120,000 for that degree. I Hope he inspires them to row the boat.
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If you expect "guidance" from a graduation speech, you're even dumber than I thought.

And I already thought you were pretty dumb.
 

Unregistered User said:
If you expect "guidance" from a graduation speech, you're even dumber than I thought.

And I already thought you were pretty dumb.
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Good point. You just hope a commencement address is somewhat entertaining.....and that the speaker doesn't bore you to death before you have to sit through the already boring process of listening to everyone get their names called.
 

MNVCGUY said:
Good point. You just hope a commencement address is somewhat entertaining.....and that the speaker doesn't bore you to death before you have to sit through the already boring process of listening to everyone get their names called.
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I always wanted a muppert to do the commencements that I have attended .... no joy on that one yet.
 

My daughter graduated from Carlson. I was there on Monday. It was a great speech. You could tell the kids were pretty fired up and really paid attention to what he was saying. Not some yawner going through the motions. Was interesting to learn why he does/wears some of the things he does.
 

GopherGerty said:
My daughter graduated from Carlson. I was there on Monday. It was a great speech. You could tell the kids were pretty fired up and really paid attention to what he was saying. Not some yawner going through the motions. Was interesting to learn why he does/wears some of the things he does.
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sounds good
 

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