First Four Loss vs NIT Run

Which will be better for the Program

  • First Four Loss

    Votes: 51 68.0%

  • NIT Run

    Votes: 24 32.0%
  • Total voters
    75
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Always take a NCAA appearance for recruiting and historical purposes.
 


First four loss. There's no guarantee the team I watched yesterday wouldn't lay an egg against High Point in the first round of the NIT. Imagine how damaging that would be.
 




NCAA's. Plus the chances we win a 1st Four game is ~50%. The chances we win multiple NIT games is <50%
 

Hey! Our yearly "Is it better to lose quick in the tournament or win the NIT" thread. I was starting to think we had forgotten :rolleyes:
 







I can't believe this is even a topic, again.

A program can't become a perennial NCAA Tournament team by making a deep run in the NIT.

We've only gone to back-to-back NCAA Tournaments twice since 1990.

Very few recruits dream of cutting down the nets after an NIT title.

Go Gophers!!
 



I don't even consider play in games to be part of the tourney at all. I consider them to be if you win them then you get an opportunity to play in the tourney.
 

BleedGopher said:
I can't believe this is even a topic, again.

A program can't become a perennial NCAA Tournament team by making a deep run in the NIT.

We've only gone to back-to-back NCAA Tournaments twice since 1990.

Very few recruits dream of cutting down the nets after an NIT title.

Go Gophers!!
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very few dream of getting bounced in a play in game as well.
 

die hard gopher said:
I don't even consider play in games to be part of the tourney at all. I consider them to be if you win them then you get an opportunity to play in the tourney.
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Well OK then, you have spoken. We'll agree not to refer to it as an NCAA appearance if you can convince DPO and co. to allow us to reference 1997 without re-hashing the same fight for the 999th time.
 

die hard gopher said:
I don't even consider play in games to be part of the tourney at all. I consider them to be if you win them then you get an opportunity to play in the tourney.
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So you would prefer to go to the NIT than have the opportunity to play "into" the tournament.
 

die hard gopher said:
I don't even consider play in games to be part of the tourney at all. I consider them to be if you win them then you get an opportunity to play in the tourney.
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Fortunately for those teams in the play-in game, the NCAA does recognize it as a part of the tourney. This is like when Doogie used to tweet that the Gophers were XX-XX (and always subtracted two wins from us for the time we beat Iowa a few seasons ago). We really may be the only fan base that chooses to cherry pick data that negatively impacts our record.

Go Gophers!!
 

I'll confess, there are years where I've thought a deep NIT run is better. I admit it. Usually it's when you have a young team full of freshmen, etc

This is not one of those years. This is a team loaded with upperclassmen, coming off an NCAA appearance last year. An NCAA appearance would be best for this team, albeit unlikely at this point
 

die hard gopher said:
I don't even consider play in games to be part of the tourney at all. I consider them to be if you win them then you get an opportunity to play in the tourney.
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the NCAA acknowledges these play in games as part of their tourney but you don't? don't think I have ever heard that one before.
 

scools12 said:
the NCAA acknowledges these play in games as part of their tourney but you don't? don't think I have ever heard that one before.
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Right. Then why have them, and let's go back to the field of 64.

BTW, if our Gophers do not get to the Dance, do you really think our boys have such lack of class that they would tank in the NIT?

It's our "super fans" that tank it, not the TEAM.
 

The post season NIT should go away. When the NCAA had a small field, yeah it was OK. Now they should run a super pre-season tournament. It the Big Dance or Nothing, Baby!
 

Big Dance every time. Please stop these threads. NIT = losersville.

Playing teams equivalent to the bottom 8+ of the Big Ten (or worse) does not help a program jump into the top half of the Big Ten.

Ugh.
 

Anyone who votes NIT run is either trolling, very new to college basketball, or very stupid. There are no other alternatives.
 


I feel like we are a broken record with this debate. Cannot understand the suggestion that it would somehow be better to play in the tournament of losers. When I play beer-league softball, I don't prefer the losers bracket either, even if I think my team has a better chance to make a run. We play this sport to win Big Ten, BTT, and NCAA championships. If we were a mid-major team, maybe I could get excited about NIT.
 

BleedGopher said:
I can't believe this is even a topic, again. A program can't become a perennial NCAA Tournament team by making a deep run in the NIT. We've only gone to back-to-back NCAA Tournaments twice since 1990. Very few recruits dream of cutting down the nets after an NIT title. Go Gophers!!
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+infinity
 

scools12 said:
the NCAA acknowledges these play in games as part of their tourney but you don't? don't think I have ever heard that one before.
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It just doesn't make sense that there would be 8 teams that play in the "first round" and then the other 60 teams that get a first round bye, I just don't get that. What kind of tourney would have more teams in first round byes then teams that actually play in those games. 64 is the perfect playoff number, not 68.
 

The addition of the 4 to make it 68 teams keeps 4 legitimate NIT teams out of the NIT. It's another conspiracy.
 

BleedGopher said:
We really may be the only fan base that chooses to cherry pick data that negatively impacts our record.
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+1 - lots of "fans" here more or less declare last season's Tournament win meaningless because we were playing a "disinterested" team who was "decimated" by injury.
 

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