Final Field of 68 Projection (March 15, 2:25 a.m.)

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UCLA and Texas in. Wonder if OSU will still get in.
 

A10 had 6 teams in last year. That was a joke.


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Gophers would have got in last year with this criteria for sure. Ok St???


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UCLA over Colorado State is a joke
 



No idea how UCLA got in. Hope wisconsin has to face North Carolina in the sweet 16 I'd take UNC in that matchup.
 


Looking at the bracket I think Kansas will be the highest seed to go out on the 1st weekend I can see them losing to either Wichita or Indiana.
 



WanderingGopher said:
UCLA, Texas, Indiana all safely in. SMH. This is what drives me nuts about NCAA tourney selection ... every year there's some different criteria emphasized. This year clearly power conf bubble teams are getting in. Road record not emphasized.

The Gophers would have made the field last year with this selection committee.
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That's why you should never pay much attention to the criteria they describe and pay more attention to what they do. I believed UCLA, Texas, and Indiana would be in all along. Why? Because they are power programs in power conferences and their veteran coaches are expected to make the NCAA tournament. Never, ever, ever discount politics and special interests. I know that sometimes difficult for you northern midwest types. For those from further south - like Illinois - that type of thing is expected.

If one paid attention to the last 30 years, none of those choices should be a surprise.

I don't agree that the Gophers would have made the field if they had the same record as last year - not enough influence from a 32 year old coach.
 

Is Cliff Alexander still out for Kansas? If so, Kentucky got by far the easiest path to the Final Four. By FAR, in my opinion.
 

So WI would have been a #1 seed over Arizona even if they lost today? What are these guys smoking?
 

cjbfbp said:
Never, ever, ever discount politics and special interests. I know that sometimes difficult for you northern midwest types.
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That's pretty funny, considering where I actually live. No special interests here! hahahahahahahaha
 



And he mentioned that UCLA was playing well down the stretch. In their last seven games, they went 3-4 with losses to Arizona St and USC. Again, what are these guys smoking?
 

GophersInIowa said:
And he mentioned that UCLA was playing well down the stretch. In their last seven games, they went 3-4 with losses to Arizona St and USC. Again, what are these guys smoking?
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This has me questioning how the Gophers didn't make it this year?
 

When is the last time a team got the only #1 seed from their conference, without winning either the regular season or conference tournament?
 

GophersInIowa said:
And he mentioned that UCLA was playing well down the stretch. In their last seven games, they went 3-4 with losses to Arizona St and USC. Again, what are these guys smoking?
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Why are you still trying to decipher logical inconsistencies in what spokespersons say? They made it because they are UCLA, had a good record in the PAC12, and they will take a minimum number from the PAC12 anyway.
 

Missed 3

I missed 3.

BYU, Indiana, UCLA in.

I had Colorado State, Old Dominion, Temple.

No grave injustices, though UCLA getting in is one I can't figure out. Bruins don't deserve a bid.
 

cjbfbp said:
Why are you still trying to decipher logical inconsistencies in what spokespersons say? They made it because they are UCLA, had a good record in the PAC12, and they will take a minimum number from the PAC12 anyway.
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I think it is the fact that they are comfortably in that makes no sense. They should at least be in a play in game.
 

SelectionSunday said:
I missed 3.

BYU, Indiana, UCLA in.

I had Colorado State, Old Dominion, Temple.

No grave injustices, though UCLA getting in is one I can't figure out. Bruins don't deserve a bid.
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None of this should be a surprise to you if you've been watching this as long as you claim to have been. Indiana and UCLA are Indiana and UCLA. They will get in if they are meet reasonably acceptable benchmarks. BYU had a good year and they have a national dedicated fan base. It's not all RPI and road record. Get some cynicism for God sakes.
 

GophersInIowa said:
I think it is the fact that they are comfortably in that makes no sense. They should at least be in a play in game.
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They made it in because their RPI was 49, and they selected 4 teams with worse RPI's below them to fill out the bracket.

RPI is almost all that matters for big schools.
You really need to have an unusual schedule / results to not make it.

Last year the American conference had 4 bids.
This year I believe only one??

So that means you can go below RPI #48 like they did last year to accomodate more big conference teams.
 

cjbfbp said:
None of this should be a surprise to you if you've been watching this as long as you claim to have been. Indiana and UCLA are Indiana and UCLA. They will get in if they are meet reasonably acceptable benchmarks. BYU had a good year and they have a national dedicated fan base. It's not all RPI and road record. Get some cynicism for God sakes.
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UCLA had an RPI of 49.
Easily in.
Indiana was the lowest ranked RPI team at 61.
Only Sanford was above them and not making it from the big conference schools.
 


cjbfbp said:
None of this should be a surprise to you if you've been watching this as long as you claim to have been. Indiana and UCLA are Indiana and UCLA. They will get in if they are meet reasonably acceptable benchmarks. BYU had a good year and they have a national dedicated fan base. It's not all RPI and road record. Get some cynicism for God sakes.
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How do you explain Kentucky two years ago? They were on the bubble following a national championship season and they didn't get a bid.

If you've been paying attention at all you'd know that I don't think RPI is the be all and end all when it comes to selecting teams.
 

Palm and Lunardi

Jerry Palm misses one. He had Colorado State in, UCLA made it instead.

Joe Lunardi misses 2. He had Colorado State and Temple in, Indiana and UCLA made it instead.
 

SelectionSunday said:
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How do you explain Kentucky two years ago? They were on the bubble following a national championship season and they didn't get a bid.

If you've been paying attention at all you'd know that I don't think RPI is the be all and end all when it comes to selecting teams.
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I think the RPI has been pretty consistent for Big Conference Teams.
Kentucky didn't get in that year because their RPI was not in the top 50.
It's not hard to see that you can rank teams by RPI for big conference and fill out a bracket that way and be pretty darn close.

Last year with the new American conference, more teams made it from that conference which stole bids from the Big Ten / ACC, etc and they only got down to RPI 48.
This year however, American only got one bid, and we're in the 50's and 60's for RPI.

These committee members use RPI until they are down to the last 3-4 spots. Then they take the last 5-8 teams and compare them. In this case they ruled out Stanford at #59 and took Indiana at 61. Probably because a better top 100 record.
 



SelectionSunday said:
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How do you explain Kentucky two years ago? They were on the bubble following a national championship season and they didn't get a bid.

If you've been paying attention at all you'd know that I don't think RPI is the be all and end all when it comes to selecting teams.
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OK, there are exceptions occasionally, but it hasn't been that unusual for defending national champions to miss the tournament the following year.

Tried to tell you that they would never leave out a storied power conference team with a good enough record for the likes of ODU from Conference USA but you wouldn't listen.
 

SelectionSunday said:
I missed 3.

BYU, Indiana, UCLA in.

I had Colorado State, Old Dominion, Temple.

No grave injustices, though UCLA getting in is one I can't figure out. Bruins don't deserve a bid.
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I liked your bracket better.
 

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