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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/NateMason_2">@NateMason_2</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshMartin_206">@JoshMartin_206</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/Carlos_Morris11">@Carlos_Morris11</a> all officially signed today. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Gophers&src=hash">#Gophers</a> to have <a href="https://twitter.com/MNCoachPitino">@MNCoachPitino</a> talk about his class at 3:30</p>— Marcus R. Fuller (@GophersNow) <a href="https://twitter.com/GophersNow/statuses/400729733802905600">November 13, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Pitino addresses the media on the recruiting class <a href="http://t.co/iAXeExadYN">pic.twitter.com/iAXeExadYN</a></p>— Minnesota Basketball (@GopherBBall) <a href="https://twitter.com/GopherBBall/statuses/400738452435505153">November 13, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Pitino said <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshMartin_206">@JoshMartin_206</a> will start off playing the power forward spot with the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Gophers&src=hash">#Gophers</a> but ultimately wants to be a small forward.</p>— Marcus R. Fuller (@GophersNow) <a href="https://twitter.com/GophersNow/statuses/400738478100463616">November 13, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Pitino said: "Everybody says this is my first recruiting class -- it's really not." <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Gophers&src=hash">#Gophers</a></p>— Marcus R. Fuller (@GophersNow) <a href="https://twitter.com/GophersNow/statuses/400740137329373184">November 13, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Pitino talked about that they are still going to recruit for this year. "We're not done." <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Gophers&src=hash">#Gophers</a></p>— Marcus R. Fuller (@GophersNow) <a href="https://twitter.com/GophersNow/statuses/400740297837002752">November 13, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SkiUMah&src=hash">#SkiUMah</a> <a href="http://t.co/5wy0UjmuEJ">http://t.co/5wy0UjmuEJ</a></p>— Josh CHOPPER Martin (@JoshMartin_206) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshMartin_206/statuses/400709056316575744">November 13, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Just signed to Minnesota &#55356;&#57280; Gopher Nation squaadd <a href="http://t.co/jjFd1YdpAC">pic.twitter.com/jjFd1YdpAC</a></p>— Carlos Morris (@Carlos_Morris11) <a href="https://twitter.com/Carlos_Morris11/statuses/400732488806330368">November 13, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>SkiUMah</p>— Nate Mason (@NateMason_2) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateMason_2/statuses/400710275781128193">November 13, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Just signed to Minnesota �� Gopher Nation squaadd <a href="http://t.co/jjFd1YdpAC">pic.twitter.com/jjFd1YdpAC</a></p>— Carlos Morris (@Carlos_Morris11) <a href="https://twitter.com/Carlos_Morris11/statuses/400732488806330368">November 13, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Already got the hat he needs I see lol
 

A squirrel, a hulk and an assassin walk into a room. Stop me if you've heard this one...

Welcome, recruits!
 


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Gopher fans please give a Minnesota welcome to <a href="https://twitter.com/Carlos_Morris11">@Carlos_Morris11</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/NateMason_2">@NateMason_2</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshMartin_206">@JoshMartin_206</a> We are excited about them!</p>— Richard Pitino (@MNCoachPitino) <a href="https://twitter.com/MNCoachPitino/statuses/400803172391743488">November 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Go Gophers!!
 



FSN: Richard Pitino’s first recruiting class includes pair of three-star preps

“All three I think fill specific needs that we wanted to address when losing guys like Mav (Ahanmisi), Austin (Hollins) and Malik (Smith),” Pitino said Wednesday. “I think all three bring different things to the table, so we’re excited about them.”

Pitino said Martin eventually wants to play the small forward position, but will begin at Minnesota as a power forward.

“I told him, I said, ‘Josh, by all means, if you want to become a four who can shoot the basketball and dribble the basketball with your athleticism and how hard you play, we both benefit from it,’” Pitino said. “We’re going to try to continue to try to develop him into that type of player. He’s got an unbelievable motor on the court, and it never stops. It starts at warm-ups and it doesn’t end until the final buzzer sounds.”

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Go Gophers!!
 

Sounds like Pitino has known about Carlos Morris for a while. He also seems to be genuinely excited about Martin and Mason.

 


Ok, I'm going to post this question: (not trolling - just want to hear opinions)

If Tubby had signed the same class, how would fans have reacted? My gut tells me people (including some of the regulars on this board) would have been ripping Tubby for not landing any of the "Big 3" and signing another crop of mid-level recruits.

Look - I'm no recruiting guru. I really have no idea how good these players are, or how good they might become. I'm just saying that Pitino seems to be getting at least a neutral reaction to this class, but if Tubby had signed the same class, I think the perception would have been very different.

This is NOT a rip on Pitino - it's more about perception than reality.
 



short ornery norwegian said:
Ok, I'm going to post this question: (not trolling - just want to hear opinions)

If Tubby had signed the same class, how would fans have reacted? My gut tells me people (including some of the regulars on this board) would have been ripping Tubby for not landing any of the "Big 3" and signing another crop of mid-level recruits.

Look - I'm no recruiting guru. I really have no idea how good these players are, or how good they might become. I'm just saying that Pitino seems to be getting at least a neutral reaction to this class, but if Tubby had signed the same class, I think the perception would have been very different.

This is NOT a rip on Pitino - it's more about perception than reality.
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The big difference is that this is essentially Pitino's first class and he had limited time to recruit players in this class. He's been on the job for what, 7 months only?
 

This is a good class not a great class. I'd feel the same way about this class under Pitino as I would with Tubby. Leaving out the Big 3 factor though, since Tubby would have had years to recruit them.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
Ok, I'm going to post this question: (not trolling - just want to hear opinions)

If Tubby had signed the same class, how would fans have reacted? My gut tells me people (including some of the regulars on this board) would have been ripping Tubby for not landing any of the "Big 3" and signing another crop of mid-level recruits.

Look - I'm no recruiting guru. I really have no idea how good these players are, or how good they might become. I'm just saying that Pitino seems to be getting at least a neutral reaction to this class, but if Tubby had signed the same class, I think the perception would have been very different.

This is NOT a rip on Pitino - it's more about perception than reality.
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Not a fair comparison at all. Pitino had like 6 months to recruit these guys. If he gets the same type of class next year that would be different.
 

I think it's a good class, if we can land studs such as Jarvis, and Big Al next year and Amir in 2016. When Mason and Martin are Juniors and seniors, we could have some special teams. I do think this year and next year will be years where we are hovering between 8 and 10 wins in the big ten.
 

GophersOnTheRise said:
Not a fair comparison at all. Pitino had like 6 months to recruit these guys. If he gets the same type of class next year that would be different.
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Essentially Pitino had 6 months to recruit two classes, all before really coaching one game at MN.

I think the fact that he has no track record at MN(and FIU is a major step down) is a bigger factor than the limited time to cultivate relationships.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
Ok, I'm going to post this question: (not trolling - just want to hear opinions)

If Tubby had signed the same class, how would fans have reacted? My gut tells me people (including some of the regulars on this board) would have been ripping Tubby for not landing any of the "Big 3" and signing another crop of mid-level recruits.

Look - I'm no recruiting guru. I really have no idea how good these players are, or how good they might become. I'm just saying that Pitino seems to be getting at least a neutral reaction to this class, but if Tubby had signed the same class, I think the perception would have been very different.

This is NOT a rip on Pitino - it's more about perception than reality.
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I get what you are saying. Only thing I'd add is that it isn't over yet. Pitino made that as clear as can be when talking about the 3M's. I've mentioned this before, he seems like the kind of guy who looks for every avenue to get a player. Almost more like a GM/Coach. I think he wants to win and win now. He's young, unproven and he's hungry.
 

station19 said:
Essentially Pitino had 6 months to recruit two classes, all before really coaching one game at MN.

I think the fact that he has no track record at MN(and FIU is a major step down) is a bigger factor than the limited time to cultivate relationships.
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+1
 

station19 said:
Essentially Pitino had 6 months to recruit two classes, all before really coaching one game at MN.

I think the fact that he has no track record at MN(and FIU is a major step down) is a bigger factor than the limited time to cultivate relationships.
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Yup! And under those circumstances I'd say these are two really good classes. But to ascend the program to greater heights next year needs to be better than this year. And/or we need a significant spring addition to this year, which would change all this to great.
 

I think Pitino's first class was better than Tubby's last class (pre-diaspora).
 

From the Barn said:
I think Pitino's first class was better than Tubby's last class (pre-diaspora).
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Hard to say. I'd take Martin over Foster, but Ellis over Morris. I do think Mason will be very good, so I would guess he would be better than Orlando's final scholarship.
 

Hey, rookies. Not a one of us knows more about what Coach Pitino is hustling after more than Coach Pitino. But, if I were Coach Pitino, I would pay more attention to GopherHole for expert advice.

GO GOPHERS!!!

GO GOPHERHOLE!!!
 

Not sure where people are claiming to be experts. I highly doubt you would read this board as often as you do if nobody ever gave their opinions/predictions. You do realize that's largely what these types of forums are for, right? You're easily the biggest control freak on here and you're even more repetitive than dpodoll. You love to provoke people and then act like you're above them by not engaging in debates.

Dr.Don said:
Hey, rookies. Not a one of us knows more about what Coach Pitino is hustling after more than Coach Pitino. But, if I were Coach Pitino, I would pay more attention to GopherHole for expert advice.

GO GOPHERS!!!

GO GOPHERHOLE!!!
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short ornery norwegian said:
Ok, I'm going to post this question: (not trolling - just want to hear opinions)

If Tubby had signed the same class, how would fans have reacted? My gut tells me people (including some of the regulars on this board) would have been ripping Tubby for not landing any of the "Big 3" and signing another crop of mid-level recruits.

Look - I'm no recruiting guru. I really have no idea how good these players are, or how good they might become. I'm just saying that Pitino seems to be getting at least a neutral reaction to this class, but if Tubby had signed the same class, I think the perception would have been very different.

This is NOT a rip on Pitino - it's more about perception than reality.
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I think that's a fair question, but it is apples to oranges in some key respects, especially when it comes to the Big Three. As I was with all of Tubby's classes, I'm optimistic that these guys can play and look forward to seeing them on the court. If Tubby had recruited these exact same guys, I would be just as impressed with their game tapes because above all else I believe my eyes. Most importantly, I would be shocked and pleasantly surprised that he was in on so many four and five star players, even if he didn't reel any in. I'd consider that an encouraging development for the coming years.
 

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