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How did ESPN get almost every bowl?? The only ones not on ESPN are the Sun Bowl, Holiday Bowl and the new Snoop Dog Bowl, to my knowledge.

Assuming $$ is going to be the answer. How did they get all except for those outliers and how'd those few not get engulfed as well?? Is there a master contract up for renewal at some point??

You'd think with the new contract that CBS, Fox and NBC have that they'd want to broadcast more games they have a vested interest in. Is there any hope of breaking up this monopoly??
 
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pharmacygopher said:
How did ESPN get almost every bowl?? The only ones not on ESPN are the Sun Bowl, Holiday Bowl and the new Snoop Dog Bowl, to my knowledge.

Assuming $$ is going to be the answer. How did they get all except for those outliers and how'd those few not get engulfedas well?? Is there a master contract up for renewal at some point??

You'd think with the new contract that CBS, Fox and NBC have that they'd want to broadcast more games they have a vested interest in. Is there any hope of breaking up this monopoly??
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ESPN actually owns a lot of the Bowls.

They are willing to fork out the most dough and use it to fill a lot of their daytime programming schedule in the 2nd half of December. The other networks don't really have that kind of a void that they feel it necessary to throw cash at (other than a few here or there).
 



fmlizard said:
If you wait long enough, Amazon and Apple will own all the bowls
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I don't think the Consolation Bowls are valuable enough commodities for those two entities to bother with.
 



Ope3 said:
I don't think the Consolation Bowls are valuable enough commodities for those two entities to bother with.
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They get good ratings but it’s kind of because they’re “what’s on”

If they were in network, they’d get better ratings. I suspect pinstripe will get a good rating today.

If they are on a hard to find streaming where people have to seek it out, ratings would go down.
 

Maybe a simplification or not quite right but channel conglomerate Disney leans on cable companies to pay large fees to carry ABC/ESPN/name a network

>>cable companies pass on the fees to one and all

>>Disney turns around and contracts with/makes absurd payments to the BIG TEN or SEC or ACC (less)

>>we pay Mark Coyle $1.6M or whatever it is now.

>> Self-reinforcing feedback loop ensues >> everyone is getting fat and loving it

>>I’m forced to watch bromaster Pat Mcafee interact with Saban

>>grandma wonders why cable bill keeps going up every year
 

Some guy said:
They get good ratings but it’s kind of because they’re “what’s on”

If they were in network, they’d get better ratings. I suspect pinstripe will get a good rating today.

If they are on a hard to find streaming where people have to seek it out, ratings would go down.
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"Better" is relative.

For the other Bowls in general, better than regularly scheduled programming that CBS, NBC & Fox (& their affiliates) already have sunken production costs, especially for midweek non-holiday games? Would the Birmingham Bowl get more eyeballs than Entertainment Tonight, General Hospital, Jeopardy!, Wheel of Fortune, Kelly Clarkson reruns & local news? Doubtful.

Will the Pinstripe outrate Chargers-Patriots? Perhaps, given that one has turned into a dud on NFL Network.
 



Ope3 said:
"Better" is relative.

For the other Bowls in general, better than regularly scheduled programming that CBS, NBC & Fox (& their affiliates) already have sunken production costs, especially for midweek non-holiday games? Would the Birmingham Bowl get more eyeballs than Entertainment Tonight, General Hospital, Jeopardy!, Wheel of Fortune, Kelly Clarkson reruns & local news? Doubtful.

Will the Pinstripe outrate Chargers-Patriots? Perhaps, given that one has turned into a dud on NFL Network.
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yes. But it isn’t just eyeballs that matter. It’s costs too
 
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A few years ago the New Orleans bowl on ESPN cited Nevada against Lafayette. It got a 1.6 rating. CBS had basketball the same day that featured Kentucky, UCLA, North Carolina and Ohio State. CBS drew a 1.5 and 1.4.

Football is king and he lifeblood for ESPN
 

Ope3 said:
I don't think the Consolation Bowls are valuable enough commodities for those two entities to bother with.
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It’s about having live sports so people “have” to have their streaming service and be in their ecosystem. Doesn’t matter if they make money directly.
 

Has diversified a little this year with one game on Fox, one on CBS, one on the CW and a few on ABC (same parent company as ESPN).

Not too long ago I wan to say that the Sun Bowl on CBS was the only non ESPN bowl game but could be wrong on that.
 






I was really hoping for an NCAA Monopoly game online.

Worst Christmas ever.
 

mggoph said:
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You best use a private window and ad block lest you have some XXX site popup when accessing methstreams when your kid is in the room. Ask me how I know.

Now I just bought a superbox.
 

fmlizard said:
It’s about having live sports so people “have” to have their streaming service and be in their ecosystem. Doesn’t matter if they make money directly.
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I understand the that's the goal. However, I don't think 1 off Consolation Bowls with non-CFP team's that have lost varying degrees of their roster to the portal and/or part of their coaching staff would provide streamers an increase in subscribers.

If they start buying into some regular season inventory which would result in some infrastructure, then sure some of the Bowls ESPN doesn't own could be in play.
 

disco said:
You best use a private window and ad block lest you have some XXX site popup when accessing methstreams when your kid is in the room. Ask me how I know.

Now I just bought a superbox
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I helped a friend setup his Superbox a few weeks ago and found it very underpowered. It took a while to load each app, which we both found frustrating. He paid over $300 for it and it’s a current model (I think it was an S5). Hopefully, you’re having a better time with yours. I’ve had both Roku Ultra and Apple TV, and like them both much better. Of course I’ve had to pay for most of the programming.
 

pharmacygopher said:
How did ESPN get almost every bowl?? The only ones not on ESPN are the Sun Bowl, Holiday Bowl and the new Snoop Dog Bowl, to my knowledge.
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If you had told me 30 years ago that college football would have a Snoop Dog Bowl one day, I would've told you to cut way back on your hydroponic intake.

What a country!!! 🇺🇸
 




ESPN has a unique ability to deliver ratings guarantees that the streamers currently do not. This allows them to be more aggressive than the streamers because if they fall short on delivering impressions, their core programming still delivers the demo of the original ad buy, so they can make good. The streamers are still using sports for subscriber acquisition, so they have compounding problems if they fail to meet audience guarantees. Some may recall the lackluster ratings of the CFP playoff semis when they were held on NYE. ESPN spent months making up their audience guarantees. https://www.nexttv.com/news/media-buyers-espn-negotiating-20m-bowl-game-ad-makegoods-146777
 



Looking at attendance for the non-CFP Bowls, other than half dozen or less it certainly isn't Ticket Sales that are paying freight in terms of Conference/Team revenue:

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

A look at bowl game attendance heading into the CFP quarterfinals

After a busy weekend of bowl games and in advance of the CFP quarterfinals, here is a roundup of bowl attendance for non-playoff games played so far this bowl season.
www.sportsbusinessjournal.com www.sportsbusinessjournal.com
 

WAGopher said:
I helped a friend setup his Superbox a few weeks ago and found it very underpowered. It took a while to load each app, which we both found frustrating. He paid over $300 for it and it’s a current model (I think it was an S5). Hopefully, you’re having a better time with yours. I’ve had both Roku Ultra and Apple TV, and like them both much better. Of course I’ve had to pay for most of the programming.
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Too many people want the Superbox or VSeeBox to be something they are not. Picture quality is decent, but there's no surround sound or anything for movies. That's why I have mine in our family room, but use a Roku or Google 4k Streamer in the home theater in the basement. As a streaming box for movies etc., the Superbox is a low end device.

The Superbox is basically just for watching sports for me and for TV at the cabin when I bring it back and forth.
 

Ope3 said:
Looking at attendance for the non-CFP Bowls, other than half dozen or less it certainly isn't Ticket Sales that are paying freight in terms of Conference/Team revenue:

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

A look at bowl game attendance heading into the CFP quarterfinals

After a busy weekend of bowl games and in advance of the CFP quarterfinals, here is a roundup of bowl attendance for non-playoff games played so far this bowl season.
www.sportsbusinessjournal.com www.sportsbusinessjournal.com
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This goes for the CFP playoff games as well. Notice TV does not show the entire crowd. Actual crowds are not what one would think. Look at the ticket prices and availability. Lets see what the blimp shows at the Rose Bowl.
 

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