East vs West in 2021: 32-31

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The aggregate records of the divisions in 2021 was East 32, West 31 - or as even as possible given an odd number of games. Crossover games were East 11, West 10. Play on.
 

fmlizard said:
The aggregate records of the divisions in 2021 was East 32, West 31 - or as even as possible given an odd number of games. Crossover games were East 11, West 10. Play on.
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The truth is that for as much as people say East is stronger than the West, the only real difference over the last few years is Ohio State and everyone else.
 

They are not as disparate as the wonks make it out to be. Ohio State is in a league of their own. Michigan and Penn State are really no better than Wisconsin and Iowa on average. It's just that Michigan and Penn State are perceived as better based on historical results.
 


MNVCGUY said:
East is top heavy, West is balanced.
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East isn't even really anymore top heavy than the West other than Ohio State.

Michigan (16-6), Penn State (14-9), Iowa (15-7) and Wisconsin (14-8) all have almost the exact same cross over records. Even those numbers are slighted skewed because some of those West losses were to Ohio State. No one in this group is beating Ohio State (until this year), so it's not a superficial exception.

It's really Ohio State, a huge gap, and then these four programs.
 


Over the eight seasons of the East-West split, the East has won 77 regular season crossover games, the West 70. Take away OSU’s 18-2 record in crossover games, and the West has a decided advantage. The only year there was a difference of more than one in wins was 2017, when the East won 13 of 21 crossover games.

Of course, the East has won all seven championship games so far, reflecting it’s edge at the top of the divisions. OSU has five of those wins.
 

Part of the reason Ohio State has done so well is they had a very easy cross-over in Nebraska.

It's like a bye week.
That's unfair to PSU and Michigan who had Wisconsin and Iowa. Two respectable teams.
 

On one hand, I agree with all of the points regarding Ohio State. Trade Ohio State for any team in the West and suddenly the West looks better than the East overall.

But, assuming Michigan beats Iowa next week, the East can boast four different teams winning the conference vs non since it went from leaders and legends to east and west, correct? Wisconsin won their conf championship games before it was east/west.
 

Face The Facts said:
Part of the reason Ohio State has done so well is they had a very easy cross-over in Nebraska.

It's like a bye week.
That's unfair to PSU and Michigan who had Wisconsin and Iowa. Two respectable teams.
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Correct
 



The bigger point is, if it was an 8 or 13 team playoff, no divisions in the big ten.

Michigan and Ohio state would be paying again this week and it would 100% be worse for the big ten to not have divisions. As first or second place would be guaranteed another extra loss. And it would’ve rendered last weeks game Ohio state vs Michigan meaningless
 

DarrenTheGreek said:
I think you're missing an OSU game. I have them as 19-2 in cross-over games. Here is what I think the standings are since the start of 2014.

Ohio State
19​
2​
0.905​
Michigan
16​
5​
0.762​
Wisconsin
12​
6​
0.667​
Penn State
14​
8​
0.636​
Iowa
11​
7​
0.611​
Nebraska
10​
9​
0.526​
Michigan State
10​
11​
0.476​
Northwestern
9​
10​
0.474​
Indiana
8​
12​
0.400​
Minnesota
7​
11​
0.389​
Illinois
7​
12​
0.368​
Maryland
7​
14​
0.333​
Purdue
4​
13​
0.235​
Rutgers
4​
18​
0.182​

2014: Split 7-7
2015: Split 7-7
2016: West 11-10
2017: East 13-8
2018: East 11-10
2019: East 11-10
2020: East 8-7
2021: East 11-10
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You are correct if you include the 2020 championship game against NW (I was not). The only 2020 crossover game they had during the regular season was against NE. Their game against Illinois was a COVID casualty.
 

DarrenTheGreek said:
TEAMSIllinoisIowaMinnesotaNebraskaNorthwesternPurdueWisconsin
Indiana1-00-40-21-11-14-31-18-12
Maryland2-01-33-30-20-21-10-37-14
Michigan2-01-13-12-04-01-03-316-5
Michigan State0-21-11-02-23-33-10-210-11
Ohio State3-00-14-06-03-01-12-019-2
Penn State3-24-21-11-11-22-02-014-8
Rutgers2-40-20-20-40-22-00-44-18
7-1211-77-1110-99-104-1312-6
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Holy shit. Look how few games Iowa had against Ohio State (1) and Michigan (2). F'cking Fadgers have only played OSU twice.

Great chart.
 

GopherVotary said:
You are correct if you include the 2020 championship game against NW (I was not). The only 2020 crossover game they had during the regular season was against NE. Their game against Illinois was a COVID casualty.
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I think you're right. I had the championship game listed in my spdsheet for some reason...which is odd since I don't count those. I'm going to update my sheet.
 



Previous chart was riddled with a bunch of mistakes. Updating now.
 

TEAMSIllinoisIowaMinnesotaNebraskaNorthwesternPurdueWisconsin
Indiana1-00-40-21-11-14-31-18-12
Maryland2-01-33-30-20-21-10-37-14
Michigan2-01-13-12-04-01-03-316-5
Michigan State0-21-11-02-23-33-10-210-11
Ohio State3-00-14-06-02-01-12-018-2
Penn State3-24-21-11-11-22-02-014-8
Rutgers2-40-20-20-40-22-00-44-18
8-1314-79-1210-1210-116-1413-8

I think this is correct.
 

Had there been one division this year, we likely are watching Michigan and Ohio State again this week. If the B1G goes back to 8 conference games and one division, it will be interesting to see how they schedule it.
 

Ohio State
18​
2​
0.900​
Michigan
16​
5​
0.762​
Iowa
14​
7​
0.667​
Penn State
14​
8​
0.636​
Wisconsin
13​
8​
0.619​
Michigan State
10​
11​
0.476​
Northwestern
10​
11​
0.476​
Nebraska
10​
12​
0.455​
Minnesota
9​
12​
0.429​
Indiana
8​
12​
0.400​
Illinois
8​
13​
0.381​
Maryland
7​
14​
0.333​
Purdue
6​
14​
0.300​
Rutgers
4​
18​
0.182​
 

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