Dylan Wright

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MNVCGUY said:
You keep referring to Hayo Carpenter as a can't miss prospect. There is no such thing as a can't miss JC player....even the most highly rated JC guys would fail a lot. Hayo had some gaudy JC stats and was a massive disappointment.

Looks like it is a moot point now since Wright is no longer listed on the roster. I do get your point about transfers being downplayed but in this particular case it really is not a huge loss based on what he has done in his 2 years here. It is only a loss in terms of the potential of what it seems like he could be if he ever figures it out.
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Every player coming in has potential. It's a matter of whether or not they can realize that potential.

Wright has had ample opportunity to live up to his potential here at Minnesota, and has underachieved, by most accounts.

If the WR room is truly a weak point, then surely one way to improve it is to bring in some new players (with potential)... and see if those players (unlike Wright) can actually live up to their potential.
 

Word said:
What are we even talking about anymore??????
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We were at one time talking about DW's probable assessment of his status. He is looking at CAB's return, Jackson's performance, Brockinton's emergence, and Fleck's decision to bring in two established high performers from the portal.

On the other hand he recognizes AK will throw to him as opposed to Morgan targeting five times out of 70 routes.

He is evaluating.
 


Let me offer this thought-

WR Depth is different for a run-first team as opposed to a pass-first team.

when the Gophers were running the ball 60%+ of the time, they didn't need as many WR's because they were rarely featured in the offense.

But, with AK at QB and Mo gone, IF the Gophers are going to feature the pass more heavily in the offense, then WR depth becomes a greater need.

from that viewpoint, you don't want to lose talent. and Wright had talent - but he was inconsistent. It was easy to see the big catches and think "if he could do that all the time." Just like the golfer who nails a long iron 10 feet from the pin and thinks "If I could do that all the time......"

but the point is, Wright didn't do that all the time. just like that golfer who puts his next shot in the trap or in the water.

I personally will take a slightly less talented player who is consistent over a more talented player who is inconsistent, because the inconsistent player will drive you crazy.
 

short ornery norwegian said:
Let me offer this thought-

WR Depth is different for a run-first team as opposed to a pass-first team.

when the Gophers were running the ball 60%+ of the time, they didn't need as many WR's because they were rarely featured in the offense.

But, with AK at QB and Mo gone, IF the Gophers are going to feature the pass more heavily in the offense, then WR depth becomes a greater need.

from that viewpoint, you don't want to lose talent. and Wright had talent - but he was inconsistent. It was easy to see the big catches and think "if he could do that all the time." Just like the golfer who nails a long iron 10 feet from the pin and thinks "If I could do that all the time......"

but the point is, Wright didn't do that all the time. just like that golfer who puts his next shot in the trap or in the water.

I personally will take a slightly less talented player who is consistent over a more talented player who is inconsistent, because the inconsistent player will drive you crazy.
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Wright may or may not be gone.

If he is indeed gone, his actual production is certainly not irreplaceable. Far from it, in my opinion.

Again, all the newcomers have potential, and most have talent as well, I'd wager.
 


Dakota2 said:
We were at one time talking about DW's probable assessment of his status. He is looking at CAB's return, Jackson's performance, Brockinton's emergence, and Fleck's decision to bring in two established high performers from the portal.

On the other hand he recognizes AK will throw to him as opposed to Morgan targeting five times out of 70 routes.

He is evaluating.
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I missed this post. The first paragraph is spot on...

Didn't Fleck once say that he always tells his players that it is his (Fleck's) job to find another player who is better than they are?
 

RememberMurray said:
I missed this post. The first paragraph is spot on...

Didn't Fleck once say that he always tells his players that it is his (Fleck's) job to find another player who is better than they are?
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He has said that with the intention, one presumes, of creating competition and bringing out the best of all.

Fleck has not assured the transfers of certain playing time any more than he would assure Wright or any other returning player his playing time.
 

Here is some “nuance” from March 8th….. 5-days before the news of DW leaving broke.
pharmacygopher said:
Wright (assuming draft/combine eligible) is a guy that if he has the same chemistry with AK over a full season as he showed in a small sample size is a guy I'm sure scouts would love to see in person.
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So, from combine invite to not really needed on our team in less than a week? 🤔
They sure do fall fast.
 

Look, we were all excited when Wright, a 4 star, transferred to us from Texas aTm. He showed some great athleticism at times, but we all saw what we saw. He made a few nice catches and missed some balls that should have been caught, and in the end, he just hadn’t proved that he could be counted on as “the guy”. If Autman-Bell is healthy and can return to his former self, our WR room is better than the end of last season, regardless of whoever joins CRAB every week.

If Wright is off the roster, the writing is on the wall. I never thought he totally bought in to the program (obviously there is no way for me to know, just an observation) and wasn’t a great fit for MN. I hope he gets what he is looking for and can have a productive life, on and off the field.
 



Spoofin said:
Here is some “nuance” from March 8th….. 5-days before the news of DW leaving broke.

So, from combine invite to not really needed on our team in less than a week? 🤔
They sure do fall fast.
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Again, you're making things up.

When did I ever say we didn't need him?? Stop making things up. You are straight up lying. Please quote me.

I called you out for making stuff up. I've barely added an opinion on the topic. Just called out your lying ass.

And I stand by my comments. The dude is athletic, physically gifted and has the tools to be a stud but for some reason could never put it all together. If he did and him and Kaliakmanis had a great year, he would be a combine standout (IMO). BUT he has yet to do so. We have some proven (at lower levels) transfers that I think should easily replace his actual production to date.

Still disappointed in the result as I think he had all the talent in the world. But those are the kinds of calculated risks you take when you're MN and you're not 'stacked' at any position group 😂😂😂😂
 

Spoofin said:
Here is some “nuance” from March 8th….. 5-days before the news of DW leaving broke.

So, from combine invite to not really needed on our team in less than a week? 🤔
They sure do fall fast.
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Maybe the people that don't think DW is a big loss never thought he was that great to begin with?
 


pharmacygopher said:
I called you out for making stuff up. I've barely added an opinion on the topic. Just called out your lying ass.
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You failed. You tried to play the semantics game by ignoring multiple posts that supported what I said by claiming no one used that exact word (which I never claimed they did) - then 2 posts later lectured me about nuance. 🤷‍♂️ You are as transparent as a window…. and just about as bright.
 



Spoofin said:
You failed. You tried to play the semantics game by ignoring multiple posts that supported what I said by claiming no one used that exact word (which I never claimed they did) - then 2 posts later lectured me about nuance. 🤷‍♂️ You are as transparent as a window…. and just about as bright.
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LMAO!! If you think the posts you quoted supported your 'stacked' comment then you are delusional. They refuted you when you read them in totality, not cherry picking parts of quotes.

Your post was fiction. No semantics or nuance. You made things up and are now trying to be a bully.
 

pharmacygopher said:
Again, you're making things up.

When did I ever say we didn't need him?? Stop making things up. You are straight up lying. Please quote me.

I called you out for making stuff up. I've barely added an opinion on the topic. Just called out your lying ass.

And I stand by my comments. The dude is athletic, physically gifted and has the tools to be a stud but for some reason could never put it all together. If he did and him and Kaliakmanis had a great year, he would be a combine standout (IMO). BUT he has yet to do so. We have some proven (at lower levels) transfers that I think should easily replace his actual production to date.

Still disappointed in the result as I think he had all the talent in the world. But those are the kinds of calculated risks you take when you're MN and you're not 'stacked' at any position group 😂😂😂😂
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I'm still waiting.....

Or did you make up MORE things to double down?
 


pharmacygopher said:
LMAO!! If you think the posts you quoted supported your 'stacked' comment then you are delusional. They refuted you when you read them in totality, not cherry picking parts of quotes.

Your post was fiction. No semantics or nuance. You made things up and are now trying to be a bully.
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Is this a joke? Your rebuttal was bolding parts of sentences from paragraphs. Jesus, you are a complete fraud.
 

pharmacygopher said:
I'm still waiting.....

Or did you make up MORE things to double down?
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You will have to pardon me if I somehow took your utter nonsense posts as a defense of what you were arguing for. 🙄
 


Spoofin said:
As I’ve said, I think Wright is an underachiever. I also know some things about him that I don’t like. My point has never been that Wright is some star. My point is that GHers always downplay players leaving. It’s as constant as their thin-skin on here (reference any Ruesse thread). I’m old enough to remember last year and adding a couple transfers to that WR corp is not solid enough to not care about losing a legitimate threat. Whether he is #1 or #4 on the depth chart.

As to your question - I’d put him ahead of either of our transfers at the start. We have all seen can’t miss transfers fail here (Hayo!). Ahead of the Freshman too. Probably 3rd behind Crab (if healthy) and Jackson with the potential to be #2. Or he could continue underachieving and be #6. Again, my point is not that he is a star, my point is that our WR room is not as solid (paraphrasing - no one used that exact word!!!) as some of those just trying to have a “reasoned” discussion claim.
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Shouldn’t it be expected even with a fairly miserable fan base like ours that the majority choose to take an optimistic approach? I think most were/are unhappy we lost guys like MJ Anderson, Ky Thomas, Bucky Irving, Flip Dixon, and Beanie Wells. Not sure we’ve suffered a major impact from anyone other than Bucky so far, so maybe the ones downplaying most of the transfers were actually correct in doing so.
 


btowngopher said:
Interesting how we should be hand wringing over Wright, meanwhile we should be celebrating MBS leaving. Ya’ll do realize they had almost identical production?
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Realistically it sucks in both regards. That's two guys who know the playbook and the system with years of experience in both. Even if they're relegated to role players with the new adds the depth is important.

Either way both dudes wore the maroon and gold, and for all intents and purposes they didn't create issues publicly that put the program in a negative light. We should be thankful for the time they put in here. Both were contributors to numerous victories in ways that don't necessarily show up in the stat column. I'll always feel bad for MBS about that dropped bullseye in the end zone, but that loss didn't fall solely on him and that shouldn't define his career here.
 

btowngopher said:
Interesting how we should be hand wringing over Wright, meanwhile we should be celebrating MBS leaving. Ya’ll do realize they had almost identical production?
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Careful now, no one used the term “hand wringing”.
 

btowngopher said:
Shouldn’t it be expected even with a fairly miserable fan base like ours that the majority choose to take an optimistic approach? I think most were/are unhappy we lost guys like MJ Anderson, Ky Thomas, Bucky Irving, Flip Dixon, and Beanie Wells. Not sure we’ve suffered a major impact from anyone other than Bucky so far, so maybe the ones downplaying most of the transfers were actually correct in doing so.
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Yes, expected - and predictable. That was my point. You should go back and read my original statement that set off this sh!t storm. It was hardly abrasive or offensive.
 


mngg11 said:
Realistically it sucks in both regards. That's two guys who know the playbook and the system with years of experience in both. Even if they're relegated to role players with the new adds the depth is important.

Either way both dudes wore the maroon and gold, and for all intents and purposes they didn't create issues publicly that put the program in a negative light. We should be thankful for the time they put in here. Both were contributors to numerous victories in ways that don't necessarily show up in the stat column. I'll always feel bad for MBS about that dropped bullseye in the end zone, but that loss didn't fall solely on him and that shouldn't define his career here.
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I agree it sucks to lose depth and experience even if it’s guys that might not ever turn into the best talent. Unfortunately with limited roster sizes it’s a give and take.
 



MNVCGUY said:
Honest question...legit curious. Rank our WR depth chart and tell me where you would put Wright.

To me it would go:
CRAB
Spencer - 9 Catches for 157 yards and 1 TD in 2 games against power 5 teams last year
Jackson
Brockington
Crooms - Likely to be our starter in the slot position
Wright
Hoskins

Wright is a gifted athlete, he has not been a great receiver for us. Could he become that....maybe....but at this point he has not put it all together on the field at either school he has attended. I would love to see him breakout and cash in on the obvious talent he has, maybe that happens if he is with the team this fall (he is still on the roster).

And our WR situation is vastly different then it was in 2022 (after the CRAB injury) when the depth chart was:

Jackson
Wright
MBS
Brockington
Geary

So yeah....if we lose Wright I think we will be ok at the WR position as there is a very good chance that he would have found himself behind a number of guys anyway this fall. I hope he stays and figures it out, but if he isn't back it isn't going to kill us at the WR position.
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CAB is known and after the game Brock. and Jackson had against Wisconsin, until proven otherwise those three "should be" the starters. Spencer and Crooms should have to do some really good things in practice and spring to unseat them. Perhaps they will
 

Gophers_4life said:
OK. I've read that in various paraphrasings on here.
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What you think GI people are lurking on here, waiting to bust people for sharing insider info? They might scold someone for doing so but that's it.

I paid for the access for a couple years (didn't re-up this year since Ryan James is an idiot) and shared stuff on Gopherhole all the time. I paid for it and can do whatever I please with the info.
 

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