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Dubay may have just had one of the worst takes in the history of Minnesota sports...in talking with Spencer about last nights game he said he would like to see Rodney's minutes cut back and give them to Oto as he is very athletic and can shoot. WTF! Spencer told him it was time for him to stick to hockey.

Who in their right mind could honestly say this...Oto fouled himself last night. I would rather see them give any minutes Rodney is not on the floor to Wally over Oto
 

Dubay is the worst of all time. He he he t t talks all all t t t the time and aa aa annd s s s s sounds llll ll ll line c c c c crap.
 

Sid Hartman said:
Dubay may have just had one of the worst takes in the history of Minnesota sports...in talking with Spencer about last nights game he said he would like to see Rodney's minutes cut back and give them to Oto as he is very athletic and can shoot. WTF! Spencer told him it was time for him to stick to hockey.

Who in their right mind could honestly say this...Oto fouled himself last night. I would rather see them give any minutes Rodney is not on the floor to Wally over Oto
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Agreed with the bold. My mind is blown that those words could have come out of someone's mouth. Wow.
 

Oto has post up and inside scoring skills that Rodney doesn't have, not that athletic, certainly not a perimeter player, not great in the open court, another of Tubby's recruits that is is being utilised way out of position, never really know how effective he can be.
 

While we are on absurd ideas, I think we should move Dre to center and let Mo run the point.
 


Every time Oto touches the ball there is a turnover or near turnover. He's shooting like 5% from 3 on the year and he looked lost when trying to play a zone defense last night. But he's right, we should bench our senior leader for that.
 

One of the funniest moments of the game was late in the game when they came back from a timeout the announcer made it sound like the second coming of Michael Jordan was on the court when he said Oto was back in the game. Had a nice chuckle
 

did anything else come out of that segment with Spencer? I had to walk away after the preposterous statement of the year because I felt I was getting more stupider the more I listened.
 




@jeffdubay: you can call it a preposterous statement but you tell me what you get from Rodney that you will be missing if you limit his minutes,

Go Gophers!!
 


BleedGopher said:
@jeffdubay: you can call it a preposterous statement but you tell me what you get from Rodney that you will be missing if you limit his minutes,

Go Gophers!!
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Yes I can. It is the turnovers and horrible shots and lack of court awareness we would get by putting Oto in that would disturb me more than what we would lose with Rodney out.
 

I think Tubby ought to go into the Illinois game with:

A 1-2-2 offensive set, and if our guy has the ball past mid-court, he shoots. The rest rebound for put backs.

PG...Mav
Wings...Otto, Wally
Block...EE, Mo.


Now that would shake up the world.

I make about as much sense as Just Drugs Dubay.
 



Dr.Don said:
I think Tubby ought to go into the Illinois game with:

A 1-2-2 offensive set, and if our guy has the ball past mid-court, he shoots. The rest rebound for put backs.

PG...Mav
Wings...Otto, Wally
Block...EE, Mo.


Now that would shake up the world.

I make about as much sense as Just Drugs Dubay.
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You're definitely improving.:)
 

Dubay is not going to go down without a fight! Bring it on

Jeff Dubay ‏@JeffDubay
you can call it a preposterous statement but you tell me what you get from Rodney that you will be missing if you limit his minutes,

Not Sid Hartman ‏@Not_Sid_Hartman
@JeffDubay Rodney has the ability to block and alter shots...Oto stumbles over his own two feet

Jeff Dubay ‏@JeffDubay
@Not_Sid_Hartman bad argument. Rodney doesn't earn playing time with his defense.

Not Sid Hartman ‏@Not_Sid_Hartman
@JeffDubay On a team that can't score defense is at a premium...Tubby can't coach offense so why are we surprised Rodney struggles on O?
 

I actually have been impressed with the tone of the board today. Not seeing the complete meltdown that we usually get after a loss. It's been rather refreshing.

For the most part folks have been civil with their frustrations/comments, with nothing too outlandish other than what Dubay said. Spencer was right. ... Dubay needs to stick with puck.
 

BleedGopher said:
@jeffdubay: you can call it a preposterous statement but you tell me what you get from Rodney that you will be missing if you limit his minutes,

Go Gophers!!
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Geez, I hate to bash Oto, but I can't think of one single thing that Oto does better on the floor than Rodney. Maybe free throws? I don't know the last time Oto shot one. It should be shooting, but they're both just awful.
 

SelectionSunday said:
I actually have been impressed with the tone of the board today. Not seeing the complete meltdown that we usually get after a loss. It's been rather refreshing.

For the most part folks have been civil with their frustrations/comments, with nothing too outlandish other than what Dubay said. Spencer was right. ... Dubay needs to stick with puck.
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is that because of the stage we are at?
Default Elisabeth Kubler-Ross and Basketball

My reactions to the past five losses:

Indiana- inspired by the second half while realizing that Indiana was just lights out in the first half (denial)
Michigan- The refs were against us and Dre picked up early fouls. We need the refs to call a fair game (bargaining)
Northwestern- just p1ssed off that we again were not able to solve the 1-3-1 zone (anger)
Wisconsin- Just a deflating loss from the shot clock violation that wasn't and the missed FT at the end (depression)
Michigan State- I just rolled my eyes at some of the things that occurred tonight and was more annoyed than anything (acceptance)
 

Breakin' The Plane said:
Geez, I hate to bash Oto, but I can't think of one single thing that Oto does better on the floor than Rodney. Maybe free throws? I don't know the last time Oto shot one. It should be shooting, but they're both just awful.
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Just to refresh everyone's memory, I picked Oto as my break-out player of the year.....oops.
 

SelectionSunday said:
I actually have been impressed with the tone of the board today. Not seeing the complete meltdown that we usually get after a loss. It's been rather refreshing.

For the most part folks have been civil with their frustrations/comments, with nothing too outlandish other than what Dubay said. Spencer was right. ... Dubay needs to stick with puck.
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SS I agree about the tone but I'm worried that says more about complacency or reality setting in than trolls disappearing.

I for one have now tempered my expectations and unfortunately see anything above .500 in conference play a bonus.
 

I'm new to this site, but in the last 5 minutes I've seen two hilarious suggestions: Run the offense through Elliot Eliason and Bench Williams in favor of Oto Osienicks. I'm just chuckling at the notion of those two guys leading the Gophers to glory....:cool02:
 

Oto can't make an entry pass in to the post...
 

If I'm cutting Rodney's minutes (which I would not, never a good idea to alienate your seniors when they're in a rough patch), I'm putting in more Eliason, not Oto. Roll with Dre, Coleman, Austin, Mbakwe (can play more PF then), and Eliason. That lineup I can see. But Oto? C'mon dude.....
 


I'm not going to totally agree with Dubay here, but I'll still have to duck all the tomatoes tossed at me after this. When Dubay says "cut back Rodney's miniutes and play Oto more," I'm not sure how he defines "more." But I would do the same on a limited basis. Five minutes?

Rodney isn't doing much. I'm sorry to be the one to say it. What would we lose without Rodney's 29 minutes last night? Five shots and four rebounds. He is offensively challenged in the half court offense against good teams, and since we can't run anymore as a team, that part of his game doesn't help.

I'm not really promoting Oto here. But it's not as if Rodney is all-Big Ten. We hoped he would be. He's not. It's hard for the subs to get much going in two minutes at a time. I like Oto as a rebounder, and who really knows what he could do if he was given some time to get comfortable? Plus, who plays in that spot next year? Someone has to be ready to go from an overall program standpoint. I don't even care if it's Oto who gives Rodney five more minutes on the bench, but I'd love to see what happens if someone (other than Andre Ingram) does.
 


Hates Monikers said:
I'm not going to totally agree with Dubay here, but I'll still have to duck all the tomatoes tossed at me after this. When Dubay says "cut back Rodney's miniutes and play Oto more," I'm not sure how he defines "more." But I would do the same on a limited basis. Five minutes?

Rodney isn't doing much. I'm sorry to be the one to say it. What would we lose without Rodney's 29 minutes last night? Five shots and four rebounds. He is offensively challenged in the half court offense against good teams, and since we can't run anymore as a team, that part of his game doesn't help.

I'm not really promoting Oto here. But it's not as if Rodney is all-Big Ten. We hoped he would be. He's not. It's hard for the subs to get much going in two minutes at a time. I like Oto as a rebounder, and who really knows what he could do if he was given some time to get comfortable? Plus, who plays in that spot next year? Someone has to be ready to go from an overall program standpoint. I don't even care if it's Oto who gives Rodney five more minutes on the bench, but I'd love to see what happens if someone (other than Andre Ingram) does.
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No one is arguing that Rodney is playing great, the argument is that even if he isn't doing much he is still better than Oto. I hate to be negative, but Oto provides nothing when he's on the floor. Even at Rodney's worst he is at least a good shot blocker, better defender than Oto, and more reliable with the ball. Why would you increase Oto's minutes? What exactly would be the benefit?
 

Hates Monikers said:
I'm not going to totally agree with Dubay here, but I'll still have to duck all the tomatoes tossed at me after this. When Dubay says "cut back Rodney's miniutes and play Oto more," I'm not sure how he defines "more." But I would do the same on a limited basis. Five minutes?

Rodney isn't doing much. I'm sorry to be the one to say it. What would we lose without Rodney's 29 minutes last night? Five shots and four rebounds. He is offensively challenged in the half court offense against good teams, and since we can't run anymore as a team, that part of his game doesn't help.

I'm not really promoting Oto here. But it's not as if Rodney is all-Big Ten. We hoped he would be. He's not. It's hard for the subs to get much going in two minutes at a time. I like Oto as a rebounder, and who really knows what he could do if he was given some time to get comfortable? Plus, who plays in that spot next year? Someone has to be ready to go from an overall program standpoint. I don't even care if it's Oto who gives Rodney five more minutes on the bench, but I'd love to see what happens if someone (other than Andre Ingram) does.
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Like Oto as a rebounder? Anyone but Ingram. Ingram is a better rebounder than Oto. A terrible take. Rodney is a role type player. He can't drive,shooot orhandle and Tubby decided he can. He can run the court, play d, and rebound. Put in the right situations to succeed he is a good player. If we had a few decent guards with Rodney he would be fine. Two years ago Tubby had him playing the two. He's basically a four. Now if you had a four who could shoot then you could play him at three. The chemistry on this team is awful. Nothing fits together like a true team should.
 

SelectionSunday said:
I actually have been impressed with the tone of the board today. Not seeing the complete meltdown that we usually get after a loss. It's been rather refreshing.

For the most part folks have been civil with their frustrations/comments, with nothing too outlandish other than what Dubay said. Spencer was right. ... Dubay needs to stick with puck.
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In fairness, the same thing can probably be said about me.
 

I don't necessarily agree with Dubay, but Rodney Williams is awful against any team that has decent athleticism but plays with discipline (MSU, Wisconsin, Indiana, etc.). He has no clue how to play in a half court game. Absolutely none. On either end of the floor. Because of this, he gets frustrated, and then the mistakes become glaring......I would have benched him last night when he made those half-hearted cuts to catch passes, which resulted in easy Spartan baskets. It was easy to see at that point that he was mentally defeated. ....I've seen enough of him. It's become old to see the same mistakes over and over.
 

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