Doogie's 2011 Predictions

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Doogie predicts that somehow Dan Berezowitz will continue to berate local reporters. Did he make a habit of this? I know Marcus Fuller tweeted something about being told to leave the football building by a member of the coaching staff when he was trying to get comment from Brewster after being fired or else the cops would be called. Was Berezowitz know for getting testy with the local media? This might explain why he's looking for a new job.


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Can anyone explain this one?

• A prominent local sports anchor will plagiarize verbatim Jon Krawczynski's work again.
 

First off, I don't get the prediction on the football team part of his predictions.

He said that he expects us to win a more meaningful victory this coming year than in year's prior, and then he points to Wisconsin, Iowa, and Nebraska being on our schedule as possible sources of that more meaningful victory. Iowa? Really? We haven't beaten Iowa in TCF in a whopping 2 months.

Second, the MN sports media in general needs thicker skins. I like Doogie, but c'mon. The MN sports media gets so whiney when someone isn't polite to them. I understand, it's a rude thing to do and Berezowitz sounds like a real Ace. When you do your job as media members and are critical of certain people (rightfully so), there is going to be a backlash but the whining has to stop. In my opinion, reading about Berzowitz being mean to different media members comes of amateurish.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
First off, I don't get the prediction on the football team part of his predictions.

He said that he expects us to win a more meaningful victory this coming year than in year's prior, and then he points to Wisconsin, Iowa, and Nebraska being on our schedule as possible sources of that more meaningful victory. Iowa? Really? We haven't beaten Iowa in TCF in a whopping 2 months.

Second, the MN sports media in general needs thicker skins. I like Doogie, but c'mon. The MN sports media gets so whiney when someone isn't polite to them. I understand, it's a rude thing to do and Berezowitz sounds like a real Ace. When you do your job as media members and are critical of certain people (rightfully so), there is going to be a backlash but the whining has to stop. In my opinion, reading about Berzowitz being mean to different media members comes of amateurish.
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Two points on this, IMO - The Iowa games was not meaningful in some respects, we had nothing on the line in a horrible season. Maybe he means a win that does something for the program.

Hard to knock people for thin skins on this board. Make one comment people dont like and you get strung up, called a troll, and told to never come back...
 

Get In here doogie

Jon Krawczynski is the local AP writer. He has covered the Twins. The AP wire is a source for newpapers without talent. The use by a local sports anchor without an AP credit borders on plagarism. Now, Doogie works for 5, I doubt it was Joe Schmidt. So by the process of elimination 4,9, 11? Rosen, I doubt it, Shaver, nope. The only one swarmey enough I my book to do it would be Eric Perkins.
 


gopherbadgerman said:
Two points on this, IMO - The Iowa games was not meaningful in some respects, we had nothing on the line in a horrible season. Maybe he means a win that does something for the program.

Hard to knock people for thin skins on this board. Make one comment people dont like and you get strung up, called a troll, and told to never come back...
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In my opinion, every single time the U of MN plays the Iowa it is a meaningful game. A big part of Brewster's failure was that he didn't win "trophy games", well that is a trophy game. People would always point Brew's record in trophy games as proof that we weren't heading in the right direction. College football coaches have lost their jobs almost solely to their failures in trophy games, in college football they are important. No offense, but I can't really see an argument that the Iowa game last year wasn't important and than to reference playing Iowa at TCF next year as a possible "meaningful game".

Yep, you see it on this board all the time. This board is full of amatuers (myself included), that is why I called it amatuerish. I think the members of the MN media should hold themselves to a higher standard than to how some people act on internet message boards.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
First off, I don't get the prediction on the football team part of his predictions.

He said that he expects us to win a more meaningful victory this coming year than in year's prior, and then he points to Wisconsin, Iowa, and Nebraska being on our schedule as possible sources of that more meaningful victory. Iowa? Really? We haven't beaten Iowa in TCF in a whopping 2 months.

Second, the MN sports media in general needs thicker skins. I like Doogie, but c'mon. The MN sports media gets so whiney when someone isn't polite to them. I understand, it's a rude thing to do and Berezowitz sounds like a real Ace. When you do your job as media members and are critical of certain people (rightfully so), there is going to be a backlash but the whining has to stop. In my opinion, reading about Berzowitz being mean to different media members comes of amateurish.
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I'm still trying to figure out how Doogie, in that article, implied the Iowa win was not a meaningful win/game??? I'm pretty sure his comment was a "prediction" that Kill would win one of those 3 big games next year and had nothing to do with Horton's win over Iowa this year.......
 

My prediction:

Iowa changes their helmets to this:

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Bob_Loblaw said:
First off, I don't get the prediction on the football team part of his predictions.

He said that he expects us to win a more meaningful victory this coming year than in year's prior, and then he points to Wisconsin, Iowa, and Nebraska being on our schedule as possible sources of that more meaningful victory. Iowa? Really? We haven't beaten Iowa in TCF in a whopping 2 months.
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Yes, Iowa. That game was a turning point for the program and was a huge exclamation point on Horton's statement that "Our kids are not losers", and it will be huge to beat them again next year.
 



For the sports writers in this town to have thin skins the way they rip people is almost hilarious. Never the less. Berezowitz is not helping anybody by being Brewster's media cop. If he did it vountarily it was dumb, if he was asked to do it Brewster was dumb.
 


sonnygarcia said:
I'm still trying to figure out how Doogie, in that article, implied the Iowa win was not a meaningful win/game??? I'm pretty sure his comment was a "prediction" that Kill would win one of those 3 big games next year and had nothing to do with Horton's win over Iowa this year.......
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My statement was in response to gopherbadgerguy who said that he didn't think the Iowa game was very meaningful.

But you are right that Doogie never said that the Iowa game last year wasn't meaningful, it just seemed a little implied in his statement , like MN will FINALLY win a meaningful game (and then he pointed to those three home games).
 

My statement was in response to gopherbadgerguy who said that he didn't think the Iowa game was very meaningful.
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Pretty sure he means a meaningful victory in the sense that it can keep us in contention for the division title or a bowl game. The game was meaningful for Gopher fans and players because it's a rival and that always means something. It would be nice to see win a game like that when both teams have a lot to gain or lose.
 



If true, it's unfortunate our local media judges players, coaches and teams by how nice they are to the reporters. Gardy must be a nice guy and Brewter/Berezowitz must have been real meanies.
 

JPIIGopher said:
Pretty sure he means a meaningful victory in the sense that it can keep us in contention for the division title or a bowl game. The game was meaningful for Gopher fans and players because it's a rival and that always means something. It would be nice to see win a game like that when both teams have a lot to gain or lose.
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Yes that is what I meant.

Every game is meaningful to the people playing them. But I dont think it was game where both teams had a lot to gain and/or lose.
 

JPIIGopher said:
Pretty sure he means a meaningful victory in the sense that it can keep us in contention for the division title or a bowl game. The game was meaningful for Gopher fans and players because it's a rival and that always means something. It would be nice to see win a game like that when both teams have a lot to gain or lose.
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I understand that is what Gopherbadgerman meant and what you mean, I just disagree in the context of college football. I think a trophy game is always important. For instance, I think the Iowa game was a more important game than the Northwestern game. I think the Wisconsin game was more important than the Ohio State game a few weeks later.

I understand your point, and I think it's valid, I just disagree in the world of college football.
 

husker70 said:
Jon Krawczynski is the local AP writer. He has covered the Twins. The AP wire is a source for newpapers without talent. The use by a local sports anchor without an AP credit borders on plagarism. Now, Doogie works for 5, I doubt it was Joe Schmidt. So by the process of elimination 4,9, 11? Rosen, I doubt it, Shaver, nope. The only one swarmey enough I my book to do it would be Eric Perkins.
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I'm here. Jon is aware, others are too. It happened over the summer. Just wanted to bring it to light. Wasn't my business to pursue. If this individual had copied my work, sure.
 

Please type slowly so I understand what you are saying but why do people keep talking about the Vikings playing 2011 at TCF when the dome is supposed to be fixed by May? Are they implying a new stadium will get approved on the site of the dome? Why would the Vikings downsize to TCF?
 

sonnygarcia said:
I'm still trying to figure out how Doogie, in that article, implied the Iowa win was not a meaningful win/game??? I'm pretty sure his comment was a "prediction" that Kill would win one of those 3 big games next year and had nothing to do with Horton's win over Iowa this year.......
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If someone is confused, then I failed with that quickie sentence. Title of article = predictions for 2011. A meaningful win in 2011 would = Iowa, Wisconsin, or Neb. at home. I think Kill will get one.
 

Doogie said:
If someone is confused, then I failed with that quickie sentence. Title of article = predictions for 2011. A meaningful win in 2011 would = Iowa, Wisconsin, or Neb. at home. I think Kill will get one.
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Would Michigan, MSU, or Northwestern on the road count, too?
 

Sure... but Michigan views OSU, MSU, and prob. at least one other school as a bigger rival than MN... the Jug is cool, but probably makes that so-called rivalry bigger than it is... MN now has 3 true rivals in my mind: Iowa, Wis., and Neb. All 3 at TCF next year... so, for Kill to win over the casual fan, he'll have to win one of those. Beating NW or MSU won't raise interest.
 

Doogie said:
I'm here. Jon is aware, others are too. It happened over the summer. Just wanted to bring it to light. Wasn't my business to pursue. If this individual had copied my work, sure.
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Why put it out there if you're not going to name names?
 

After seeing the ESPN News anchor steal Kevin Ding's words the other day, it was a reminder. We often associate plagiarism with the written word... but it happens on TV.
 


Doogie back to new room

The idea a sports anchor is a journalist is stretch. Most couldn't construct a topic sentence. Its more about the tailor. Whomever it was, all he needed to say is the Associated press is reporting................. To do less is the fault of the program director, news editors, and writers. The idea a sports anchor alone was responsible, is short of the mark. This is a statiion in the Twin Towns that knowingly plagerized a story. Its not a matter of written word and TV. Its a matter of intellectual property being used without permission. If the station will do this, what else are they presenting as their work?
 

husker70 said:
Jon Krawczynski is the local AP writer. He has covered the Twins. The AP wire is a source for newpapers without talent. The use by a local sports anchor without an AP credit borders on plagarism. Now, Doogie works for 5, I doubt it was Joe Schmidt. So by the process of elimination 4,9, 11? Rosen, I doubt it, Shaver, nope. The only one swarmey enough I my book to do it would be Eric Perkins.
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The first name that popped into my head was Mike Max.
 


If a local station subscribes to the AP service, are they not allowed to use the writings verbatim without penalty? Isn't that why newspapers subscribe to the service? Why is broadcast any different?
 

Blasphemy

Doogie said:
Sure... but Michigan views OSU, MSU, and prob. at least one other school as a bigger rival than MN... the Jug is cool, but probably makes that so-called rivalry bigger than it is... MN now has 3 true rivals in my mind: Iowa, Wis., and Neb. All 3 at TCF next year... so, for Kill to win over the casual fan, he'll have to win one of those. Beating NW or MSU won't raise interest.
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From the wik: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Brown_Jug_(American_football)

The Little Brown Jug is a piece of crockery used as a trophy that is awarded to the winner of each college football game between Minnesota and Michigan. It is the oldest rivalry trophy, and one of the oldest rivalry games, in US college football.[1]


From http://collegefootball.about.com/od/traditions/p/trad-jug.htm

The Little Brown Jug is a simple earthenware jug awarded each year to the winner of the football game between the University of Minnesota and the University of Michigan. The two schools have been playing for the jug since 1903 — back when the legendary Fielding Yost was stalking the sidelines for Michigan — making it one of the oldest trophies and traditions in all of college football.

Your opinion of the significance of the Michigan rivalry flies in the face of history. Nebraska ??? I could not disagree with you more !!
 

minngg said:
If a local station subscribes to the AP service, are they not allowed to use the writings verbatim without penalty? Isn't that why newspapers subscribe to the service? Why is broadcast any different?
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With every story in print, be it newspaper or website they give a by line and note AP. That is what any TV or Radio station should do if they cannot develope the story from their own sources.
 

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