Deinhart reporting Hoke out and Edsall top target

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Great Plains Gopher said:
Will someone please explain the enthusiasm for Al Golden? 27-34 at Temple.
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Temple had a record of 3-31 during the three years before Golden was hired, but in his first two years at the helm, 4-8 in 2006 and then 5-7 mark in 2007, the winningest record for the program since a 7-4 season in 1990.

The Owls finished the 2009 regular season 9-3, their best record since 1979-also the last time they appeared in a postseason game (Garden State Bowl) before facing the UCLA Bruins in the EagleBank Bowl on December 29, 2009. After leading for three quarters, the Owls fell to the Bruins 30-21.

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I think the problem with Calhoun is that the AF Academy is so different in terms of recruiting, discipline, etc., not to mention the obligatory triple option.
 

Just read a little bio on wikipedia about Edsall. He's got a little farm with a couple of horses. Bruininks is a horse lover. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Seriously, I'd be fine with Edsall, like I'd be fine with Calhoun, Hoke, Golden, or Mullen. I think the attraction of Golden is that Temple was 19-71 in the eight years prior to his taking over, including 0-11 in 2005. He's made them much more competitive. They aren't "there" yet, but his body of work given what he inherited at least merits a look.
 

Great Plains Gopher said:
Will someone please explain the enthusiasm for Al Golden? 27-34 at Temple.
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- 27-34 in five years (.443); Temple was 11-44 in previous five years (.200) - they were so bad that they were the ONLY TEAM EVER to be kicked out of a BCS conference

- has spent entire coaching career on defense; was an offensive player in college, thus has extensive experience and expertise on both sides of the ball

- current HC in a Big Ten state, unlike any other candidate mentioned (not counting Kill, who hasn't been mentioned in the media)

- pure class and professionalism; not a hint of impropriety or violations during his tenure

- much younger than any other candidate mentioned at just 41; was youngest DC in nation at 32 when hired at Virginia, and 2nd youngest HC in nation (behind Fitzgerald) at 37 when hired at Temple; could theoretically take this job, turn it into his own Penn St., and be here for 30-40 years if he succeeds and we reward him

- speaking of Penn St., was captain as a player for JoePa; you're not a captain for JoePa unless you're top-notch as a football player, student of the game, and person

- recruiting very well compared to his conference peers, but also great at taking under-recruited players and turning them into studs

- wears a tie on the sidelines

I've been watching Temple games and following Golden for the last 3 years. I've been trying, and I can't find a thing wrong with the guy. Unless you were expecting him to come into that dumpster fire of a program and start winning 8 or 9 games immediately, I don't know what else you want from the guy. Lombardi himself couldn't have done any better with what Golden inherited at Temple. He was interviewed for UCLA's head coaching job in 2007 when his record at Temple was 5-19 (incidentally, the same record as Chizik when he was hired by Auburn), and he's somehow become a worse candidate after winning 5, 9, and at least 8 games the last three seasons? I'm 100% convinced he will be an elite head coach somewhere, and I'd rather have it be here than elsewhere. You can remember this post and we'll look at where Golden is and how he's doing in 5 years.
 


Johnny Olson said:
If Golden insist on having a Penn State clause, we should run not walk.
We have already been through this with a man named Holtz.
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+1

We should not play second fiddle to any program. Any such clause should be in the reverse.
 

To put things in perspective, Mason beat pre Golden Temple 55-7 in 2006.
 





Personally (and I know I'm in the minority here), I would be supportive of an Edsall.
I have watched a lot of UConn games over the years and am impressed by his coaching and game management.
Two points:
1) I am of the belief that the much-maligned Big East is a better conference than the MAC or the WAC and most years is equal or better than the MWC;
2) I am also of the belief that UConn is a very hard place to recruit to because of the (far) off-campus stadium and lack of talent in the immediate area.

In other words, I think Edsall has done well over the past few years (4 winning seasons in a row, 1 and possibly 2 conference championships during that time, winning 75% of his bowls overall, etc) with a resource-poor team in an area without an abundance of talent.

I look at success as relative. Sure the Big East isn't as good as the Big Ten, but would you expect a BE team to be able to recruit BT talent? No? So in his conference (among peer teams competing for the same recruits) he will possibly win 2 conference championships in 4 years?

Heck yeah, I'd take that.

My 2¢
 



wels0081 said:
He may have built UCONN from the ground up...
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Why do people keep saying this? Skip Holtz took UConn to the top (or as close as they ever got to it) before Edsall took over.
 



I don't see the Edsall hire happening. I obviously could be wrong but it doesn't make sense from our point of view or his. Not sure what he has to gain by leaving UConn, where he can (and this year will) realistically make a BCS game...for Minnesota, where doing so hasn't happened ever. I'm sure he's a good coach--we actually saw him win one of his program's most significant games, at Notre Dame a year or so ago. I just don't see how he fits the bill for us. I'm also one of those that doesn't buy that Dan Mullen is a realistic candidate--once again, I just don't see that move making sense for him. And it appears that coach Ken is out. It also looks as if Brady Hoke is slipping down the ranks. So, with all that said, here are my five finalists...

1. Jerry Kill--has slowly grown on me since the coaching search began
2. Troy Calhoun--I like this guy
3. Brady Hoke
4. Al Golden--would be higher if I didn't think him coming here and staying weren't such longshots--this guy's got "JoePa's successor" written all over him
5. Mike Stoops
 

Erdsall has a pathetic record at UConn. Something like 73-69. I will never support this kind of mediocrity. If he is our coach, we can look forward to many more years of frustrating Gopher football. Maturi can do better.
 

I find it highly ironic that UConn is in a position to make a BCS bowl, as they are not even the strongest team in the Big East. Edsall's gotta beat a pretty tough South Florida team on the road in order to ensure that BCS Bowl though, and personally I think UConn's going to get whacked down there.
 

proudgopher said:
Erdsall has a pathetic record at UConn. Something like 73-69. I will never support this kind of mediocrity. If he is our coach, we can look forward to many more years of frustrating Gopher football. Maturi can do better.
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Not saying I wouldn't be underwhelmed with an Edsall hire, but let's put his current record in perspective. He transitioned the team from D1-AA and into a BCS conference just over ten years ago. That's going to require a certain amount of losing. Further, here are the D1-A HC records of our previous coaches prior to becoming the U's coach through Smokey Joe. Edsall's mediocre record would rank him 2nd. I'm not sure if that's a testament to Edsall's qualifications as much as it is the ineptitude of the U's football admin.

Brew: None
Mason: 59-64
Wacker: 40-58
Gutey: None
Holtz: 93-33
Salem: None
 

bkrownd said:
Why do people keep saying this? Skip Holtz took UConn to the top (or as close as they ever got to it) before Edsall took over.
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Huh?

Skip Holtz coached a 1AA UCONN team, Randy Edsall is set to win his second Big East championship, that is a pretty big difference.
 

dpodoll68 said:
PLEASE let it be Golden. He wouldn't interview if he weren't interested in the position. He is the only realistic candidate being discussed over the last few days who would show that Minnesota is serious about being a national football power again.
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I'm sorry, but how does Golden show that the Gophers are serious about being a national power? I see nothing that makes Golden better than Hoke. For the record, while I wouldn't mind Hoke, I'm not sold on either one, and Golden wouldn't be here for the long haul.
 


thailleagle said:
Wrong...62-0 in Goldens 1st Season...

We also beat Indiana 63-0 that year...
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Nope, they beat Indiana 63-26 and lost to Wisconsin by 36, beat NDSU by 1 point and
got shut out by tOSU 44-0.

Quite a roller coaster ride that year.
 

Bob_Loblaw said:
Huh?

Skip Holtz coached a 1AA UCONN team, Randy Edsall is set to win his second Big East championship, that is a pretty big difference.
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Not even remotely enough to qualify as "from the ground up".
 

Iceland12 said:
Nope, they beat Indiana 63-26 and lost to Wisconsin by 36, beat NDSU by 1 point and
got shut out by tOSU 44-0.

Quite a roller coaster ride that year.
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I thought I edited that to say we put up 63 on Indiana but yeah that was a crazy year...
 

The newest updates in the Hoke saga is that he is going to stay put at SDSU because the Aztecs are going to pony up and give him some more cash.

In my opinion that is fine. We still have a shot at Calhoun and I think we can be happy with that hire. Some may not believe he is a "Home Run" hire, but he is a "warning track, triple" hire. If you want to stay with the baseball analogies.
 

Wheaton said:
The newest updates in the Hoke saga is that he is going to stay put at SDSU because the Aztecs are going to pony up and give him some more cash.

In my opinion that is fine. We still have a shot at Calhoun and I think we can be happy with that hire. Some may not believe he is a "Home Run" hire, but he is a "warning track, triple" hire. If you want to stay with the baseball analogies.[/QUOTE]

Again, we know how you feel about Calhoun and the life-size poster you have of him above your bed.
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TCF=UnitedWeStand said:
Wheaton said:
The newest updates in the Hoke saga is that he is going to stay put at SDSU because the Aztecs are going to pony up and give him some more cash.

In my opinion that is fine. We still have a shot at Calhoun and I think we can be happy with that hire. Some may not believe he is a "Home Run" hire, but he is a "warning track, triple" hire. If you want to stay with the baseball analogies.[/QUOTE]

Again, we know how you feel about Calhoun and the life-size poster you have of him above your bed.
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haha, its not above my bed. Its on my door as I leave for work every morning to remind myself to do my best and be as good at Troy Calhoun! jk
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I know for a fact that it's true that Edsall is the #1 target because Deinhart has close, inside sources who know the deepest secrets of the AD's office. Just look at the way he nailed the story very early on about what firm the Gophs had hired for the search. Oh, wait, he got that wrong? Well, that's deeply classified info that next to no one would know anyway - or at least until Maturi announced it a day or so later. Well, there's still plenty of reason to believe he knows what he's talking about now because... well... er...
 

Duluthguy said:
I know for a fact that it's true that Edsall is the #1 target because Deinhart has close, inside sources who know the deepest secrets of the AD's office. Just look at the way he nailed the story very early on about what firm the Gophs had hired for the search. Oh, wait, he got that wrong? Well, that's deeply classified info that next to no one would know anyway - or at least until Maturi announced it a day or so later. Well, there's still plenty of reason to believe he knows what he's talking about now because... well... er...
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