Coyle on finding a big fish donor: We’re still in the boat trying to find that big fish. We still have a hook in the water.

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GopherGrit said:
Nonsense

A person who is going to give away a bunch of money to a college team, is either going to do it anyway no matter who the AD is or they're going to do it because they believe in the coach and the coach's program.

The AD has really very little to do with it.
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Non-sense.
 

GopherGrit said:
If it truly was Dolson who came up with this radical, genius plan ("hey guys, listen to this! OK, we'll .... go to a rich alumni ... and ask them to buy us a great QB!! I did it! I invented electricity!") ...... then why did he wait until only 2024 to spring it?

Nonsense. He either tried before and failed, or never tried until after the (new) head coach had done the actual work of convincing the wealthy alumni first.

Don't care which it is, both prove you wrong.


You're allowed to stubbornly be wrong, as you are.



It is proven: it's on Fleck to do the main, primary convincing, before Coyle would ever need to do anything.
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There was no proof of concept for Hoosier success in football under Cignetti until the 2024 season was in full swing.

The Dolson pitch to Cuban was not until the ND Playoff loss in December 2024. That coincides with Cuban recently no longer having majority ownership of the Mavericks, allowing him more time and resources for other outside interests.

Sure Cignetti had a lot to do with. That's not the same as Dolson having "nothing" to do with it.

Furthermore, Cignetti did not hire himself as HC of Indiana, nor give himself an extension.
 




Minnesota’s athletic budget is 15 of 18 in the Big Ten. I would argue Mark Coyle is currently doing a pretty good job for that ranking. Currently, probably ranks high in the Big Ten for the amount of resources. Comparing him to previous AD’s at MN, he seems quite a bit better.
 

Some Day...Maybe said:
Minnesota’s athletic budget is 15 of 18 in the Big Ten. I would argue Mark Coyle is currently doing a pretty good job for that ranking. Currently, probably ranks high in the Big Ten for the amount of resources. Comparing him to previous AD’s at MN, he seems quite a bit better.
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And being one of a very small number of programs not in the red I believe.
 

Coyle cannot fundraise a penny. He is in a boat alright. Making good coin to talk it up smoothly with zero action. Sad to say, decades of feable support from the top at the U was damage not to be undone.
 

1983 said:
Coyle cannot fundraise a penny. He is in a boat alright. Making good coin to talk it up smoothly with zero action. Sad to say, decades of feable support from the top at the U was damage not to be undone.
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You familiar with how the regent system works at the U?
 



Some Day...Maybe said:
Minnesota’s athletic budget is 15 of 18 in the Big Ten. I would argue Mark Coyle is currently doing a pretty good job for that ranking. Currently, probably ranks high in the Big Ten for the amount of resources. Comparing him to previous AD’s at MN, he seems quite a bit better.
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This could be exactly right.

BUT ....

What IS it that Coyle actually does around here?? What decisions and/or actions that he has made in the last X years directly resulted in Y,Z gains??

Best I can come up with was his decision to hire various coaches, like Medved in MBB. That was a good decision. But he undoubtedly had many people, some probably hired as external consultants, telling him what to do there. And obviously the MBB decision he made directly prior to that was bad enough to be fired, if we cared about MBB enough.


What would some other Big Ten Athletic Director -- we we magically, hypothetically swapped them here -- have done differently?


I still don't really get what an AD actually does all day, that adds value.
 

Ope3 said:
There was no proof of concept for Hoosier success in football under Cignetti until the 2024 season was in full swing.

The Dolson pitch to Cuban was not until the ND Playoff loss in December 2024. That coincides with Cuban recently no longer having majority ownership of the Mavericks, allowing him more time and resources for other outside interests.

Sure Cignetti had a lot to do with. That's not the same as Dolson having "nothing" to do with it.

Furthermore, Cignetti did not hire himself as HC of Indiana, nor give himself an extension.
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I give full credit to Dolson for hiring Cignetti.

But he didn't do any of the primary work of convincing Cuban to buy off Mendoza. That was Cignetti. I've proven it.

Dolson might have come in after that fact with a plan for logistics of how the donation would work ... but that's not at all what we're talking about or you're claiming.


Very likely: Cuban is vastly exaggerating the actual truth in your quotes in order to put over his friend and make it sound like he did something that he didn't do. Cuban would do that all day, because he loses nothing by doing so.



It is proven: it's on Fleck to do the main, primary convincing, before Coyle would ever need to do anything.
 

Not that we actually have any wealthy alumni that care about football.

We ... don't.

They would've donated by now. They're not out there.
 

The people who are rich enough to have been such a mega donor for Gopher football right now, either:

- did go to school here back in the 60's or before, but they haven't already donated so clearly they don't care and never are going to
- or they went to school here more like in the 70's, 80's, or maybe the 90's .... not a lot of Gopher football greatness to look back fondly upon for those folks.


There's just an absolute hole of Gopher football irrelevancy from the 1970's to about the mid/late 1990's ... that will take decades more of years to climb back out of.
 



GopherGrit said:
I give full credit to Dolson for hiring Cignetti.

But he didn't do any of the primary work of convincing Cuban to buy off Mendoza. That was Cignetti. I've proven it.

Dolson might have come in after that fact with a plan for logistics of how the donation would work ... but that's not at all what we're talking about or you're claiming.


Very likely: Cuban is vastly exaggerating the actual truth in your quotes in order to put over his friend and make it sound like he did something that he didn't do. Cuban would do that all day, because he loses nothing by doing so.
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I'm only starting Dolson had something to do with Cuban's involvement. Facts.
 
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GopherGrit said:
It is proven: it's on Fleck to do the main, primary convincing, before Coyle would ever need to do anything.
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Coyle uses the word "we" twice in the title quote of this thread.
 



GopherGrit said:
He's been a top guy in athletic admin at IU since 2008 ... but only just thought of asking Cuban in 2024?

:rolleyes:
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Cuban had other previous priorities as Controlling Owner of the Dallas Mavericks.
 


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