Coyle, Fleck, Pitino, Whalen, Motzko and McCutcheon will take voluntary 10% pay reduction

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Press Release from U of M.
 

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Does anyone know if Saban is getting a haircut? I rag on PJ for some of the stuff he does but I am just teasing, we need him bad. Dont leave over cash please.
 

Class acts by these folks. My wife is as nurse and the CEO plus other executives of her hospital received and took their bonuses while putting on a hiring freeze and talking about furloughs. The CEO took $250,000.
 

Pretty standard these days. Would have looked bad if they didn't.
 

There are coaches nationally that voluntarily are taking 25% cuts.
 
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PoockItInfor6 said:
There are 3 coaches in the B1G who have taken any reduction... 0 in the SEC... He also took the week furlough. But I’m sure you would have done more.
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Well there is that little 2.6 million that Saban gave away according to Finebaum. I think the 10% cuts are great but i would expect more.
 

I'm actually pissed that they asked him to take a pay cut.
He is already worth far more than he's getting paid.

If we lose him over petty crap like this then the short-term gain is far less valuable then the long-term '90s Gophers.
 



hello-world said:
I'm actually pissed that they asked him to take a pay cut.
He is already worth far more than he's getting paid.

If we lose him over petty crap like this then the short-term gain is far less valuable then the long-term '90s Gophers.
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Any reduction now can be made up later if It ends up being an issue.
 

Just Gopher It!! said:
Any reduction now can be made up later if It ends up being an issue.
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Exactly. Trust me, coaches all over the country are taking pay cuts and will continue to do so for as long as this plays out. And if they don't considering the circumstances, they'll be painted as being greedy.

Has nothing to do with being petty. It's simply a necessity for the vast majority of athletic programs around the country.
 


36,000,000 Americans out of work, or about 31% of the workforce is unemployed and an idiot says he should not have a pay reduction? Seriously, prioritize your thinking. This is a whole new level of fanaticism and coach worship.

I love P.J. Fleck. Fantastic human being and coach. P J Fleck took a paycut for America. Not just Minnesota. At the end of the day, Instead of earning 10,000 per day, he is earning $9000. I don't think he is going to miss it that much. The difference between the two is merely ego. And, I would hope that PJ's character is not driven by that much self centeredness. This is his truest character test. If he would turn around and bolt out the door because of this cut, then I would have to say he would be a fraud of the first order of magnitude. But, I don't think he is that kind of person.
 



Dean S said:
36,000,000 Americans out of work, or about 31% of the workforce is unemployed and an idiot says he should not have a pay reduction? Seriously, prioritize your thinking. This is a whole new level of fanaticism and coach worship.

I love P.J. Fleck. Fantastic human being and coach. P J Fleck took a paycut for America. Not just Minnesota. At the end of the day, Instead of earning 10,000 per day, he is earning $9000. I don't think he is going to miss it that much. The difference between the two is merely ego. And, I would hope that PJ's character is not driven by that much self centeredness. This is his truest character test. If he would turn around and bolt out the door because of this cut, then I would have to say he would be a fraud of the first order of magnitude. But, I don't think he is that kind of person.
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I agree with almost everything you said here but no need to call people an idiot.
 





hello-world said:
I'm actually pissed that they asked him to take a pay cut.
He is already worth far more than he's getting paid.

If we lose him over petty crap like this
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At some point he could leave for another job, but it won't be because he was asked to take a pay cut to save money for the athletic department during an international health crisis. Many of his peers have done the same around country.

We have to get out of this always worrying about something that will make PJ Fleck leave. There is literally zero chance he leaves Minnesota because he was asked to take this reduction.
 

Athletic departments should not have to even ask but anyone who has a contract is doing a good thing.
 

Dean S said:
36,000,000 Americans out of work, or about 31% of the workforce is unemployed and an idiot says he should not have a pay reduction? Seriously, prioritize your thinking. This is a whole new level of fanaticism and coach worship.

I love P.J. Fleck. Fantastic human being and coach. P J Fleck took a paycut for America. Not just Minnesota. At the end of the day, Instead of earning 10,000 per day, he is earning $9000. I don't think he is going to miss it that much. The difference between the two is merely ego. And, I would hope that PJ's character is not driven by that much self centeredness. This is his truest character test. If he would turn around and bolt out the door because of this cut, then I would have to say he would be a fraud of the first order of magnitude. But, I don't think he is that kind of person.
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The vast majority of those 36,000,000 Americans don't have employment contracts. Fleck does.

No one with a contract should have to take a pay reduction. If things were reversed and companies/colleges were making record high amounts of money they wouldn't be giving their contracted employees more money.
 

PJ Fleck setting an example to his players and recruits to do the right thing always is admirable. I expected nothing less from a true teacher and a true leader of young men.
 

GoGophersUMN said:
The vast majority of those 36,000,000 Americans don't have employment contracts. Fleck does.

No one with a contract should have to take a pay reduction. If things were reversed and companies/colleges were making record high amounts of money they wouldn't be giving their contracted employees more money.
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(This is a side note to this comment and not necessarily about Fleck)

100% true. Contracts should be viewed as rent. You do not get to forego payments if you choose to live somewhere else. I would also not get additional profits if my surgery volume was higher as the group would keep those if revenue was at a record high. The group would keep it and just give a pat on he back.

However, while a sound logical argument, the world does not always work logically. It would be one heck of place if people understood logic. Nevertheless, who would have thought people in healthcare, including MDs, DOs, and RNs, would have to either be furloughed or take a pay cut while continuing to see patients during this time (or any time).

Nothing is stable at present. It is hard one one w a job or in a specialized profession argue w a pay cut when there is no one else hiring and employment is necessary. To tie it back more to the thread, I would say the physicians who I know in private or academic practice have had the average ask of a 25% reduction in pay for either 3 months or indefinite period. By that comparison, 10% does not seem so bad.
 

IMO there will be a lot of across the board 10% cuts happening. For starters, everyone that works for the gov't - federal, state and local employees - will most likely have to take a paycut along those lines as tax revenues are in the dumpster. Fleck et. al. getting in front of this bandwagon certainly helps the image of them and U of M sports.
 

GoGophersUMN said:
The vast majority of those 36,000,000 Americans don't have employment contracts. Fleck does.

No one with a contract should have to take a pay reduction. If things were reversed and companies/colleges were making record high amounts of money they wouldn't be giving their contracted employees more money.
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I always like the view that contract law supersedes reality.
 

Dean S said:
I always like the view that contract law supersedes reality.
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Do you think contracts should no longer be valid because a situation the athletic department didn't plan for came up?

If it's reality above all, why doesn't it work the other way? The football team was extremely successful last year and he didn't get anything that wasn't in his contract. I could see the argument if the Gophers were giving rewards beyond what's in contracts for good performance but they don't.

The reality is that the athletic department is in a tough situation because they didn't plan well. Fleck didn't agree to loans on multiple facilities or to all of the spending the department does. If Fleck thinks that taking a voluntary pay cut is the right thing to do and is willing to do it to help save some of his coworkers' jobs, good for him. But he shouldn't feel obligated to or that he and his salary are a part of the problem.
 

Dean S said:
36,000,000 Americans out of work, or about 31% of the workforce is unemployed and an idiot says he should not have a pay reduction? Seriously, prioritize your thinking. This is a whole new level of fanaticism and coach worship.

I love P.J. Fleck. Fantastic human being and coach. P J Fleck took a paycut for America. Not just Minnesota. At the end of the day, Instead of earning 10,000 per day, he is earning $9000. I don't think he is going to miss it that much. The difference between the two is merely ego. And, I would hope that PJ's character is not driven by that much self centeredness. This is his truest character test. If he would turn around and bolt out the door because of this cut, then I would have to say he would be a fraud of the first order of magnitude. But, I don't think he is that kind of person.
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If you feel so strongly about this, then you should ask for a 10% pay reduction on Monday. It might help them save other jobs.
 


GoGophersUMN said:
Do you think contracts should no longer be valid because a situation the athletic department didn't plan for came up?

If it's reality above all, why doesn't it work the other way? The football team was extremely successful last year and he didn't get anything that wasn't in his contract. I could see the argument if the Gophers were giving rewards beyond what's in contracts for good performance but they don't.

The reality is that the athletic department is in a tough situation because they didn't plan well. Fleck didn't agree to loans on multiple facilities or to all of the spending the department does. If Fleck thinks that taking a voluntary pay cut is the right thing to do and is willing to do it to help save some of his coworkers' jobs, good for him. But he shouldn't feel obligated to or that he and his salary are a part of the problem.
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He apparently agreed to it since he did accept it.
 

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