Could any college stadium ever be...

[Kirbydude]

Put a consistent winner on the field and the culture changes immediately.

The U of M is a city school that has forgotten about the out-state community. For that matter, the Twin Cities has forgotten about rural Minnesota. The Minnesota Miracle no longer exists. There is resentment in the smaller communities. It used to be a progressive environment.

 

[supadupafly]

Put a consistent winner on the field and the culture changes immediately.

The U of M is a city school that has forgotten about the out-state community. For that matter, the Twin Cities has forgotten about rural Minnesota. The Minnesota Miracle no longer exists. There is resentment in the smaller communities. It used to be a progressive environment.

HUH?

 

[Go4Gr8]

Put a consistent winner on the field and the culture changes immediately.

The U of M is a city school that has forgotten about the out-state community. For that matter, the Twin Cities has forgotten about rural Minnesota. The Minnesota Miracle no longer exists. There is resentment in the smaller communities. It used to be a progressive environment.

HUH?

Pretty much the first part if you win, more people jump on the bandwagon for example how many more Detroit Lions fan jumped on the bandwagon and say they are superbowl bound? Id say quite a bit. As the for the second part to his statement he lost me there.

big difference from world soccer to american football is some of those countries only have just soccer to cheer for, in the US there is plenty to cheer, football,baseball,hockey,basketball, nascar lol but you get the point. If the U of M were to do something of that nature they would have to start with the student body then onto the community.

I think the MN Lynx have a better chance of winning another title before we see this at the U of M.

 

[RailBaronYarr]

My brother is a well-known member (by the other members) of the Sporting KC supporters club and I went down for their final home game this past Saturday. Certainly nothing like Europe, but the Cauldron (whose name made more sense when they were the Wizards) was something any college student section could envy. Of the 90+ minutes of game play about 85+ minutes were chants, 3 minutes were celebrations over the 2 goals, and 2+ minutes were nothing organized.

The leader of it all had a drum. This allowed him to not only indicate what chant they would do, but also to keep everyone in unison. I think if you organized 10 other people every game and had8 separate chants, you could have most of your section doing it by the end of the season.

But I thought the drum was key and I wondered whether you'd be allowed into a college football game with a drum.

Great. You know who has drums, plays a set number of drum cadences frequently, and has set chants/motions to do with said cadences? The Minnesota Marching Band. The drumline plays roughly the same 8 cadences, each of which were shown to the students at their stadium orientation and have set chants and motions that go along with them. And all 300 marching band members already do it to set example. The only time they're not playing is during plays (not allowed by NCAA), during stadium advertisements, or when they're playing a song. Seems like something to build on...

 

[emann]

Back to A&M, I love the old NY Times article by Michael Lewis about Mike Leach, where he is so troubled that Texas A&M students get to be called cadets, even though they aren't in the Army. Hilarious stuff.

 

[dboy]

how to replicate that?
1.) stop being a 'major research' university. ( let 'em cheer vs. study ).
2.) get rid of all womens sports at the U. ( put the $ into football ).
3.) get rid of all pro sports in town. (focus the fans demand ).
4.) get rid of all fortune 500 companies in town. (focus the importance of peoples lives to Sat at the Bank rather than silly things like running businesses. ).
5.) drain all 10,000+ lakes in the state.
6.) poison all deer/geese/ducks in the state.
7.) sell beer at the Bank.
8.) win.

 

[4four4]

LFC or for that matter any Euro FC has way more atmosphere than any football game in the USA. Last Saturday even goofball Leron James tweeted about his experince at Anfield between LFC and Manchester United. Go Reds!!!!

@SportsCenter One of the single best experiences of my life!The excitement that these fans have is like no other.Extremely loud start/finish

 

[holereader]

easy - we just need to wear more scarves

I did mine up out of the closet

 

[Ski U Mah 55]

LFC or for that matter any Euro FC has way more atmosphere than any football game in the USA. Last Saturday even goofball Leron James tweeted about his experince at Anfield between LFC and Manchester United. Go Reds!!!!

Completely true. American sports will never equal the rabid fan support of European soccer clubs.

 

[4four4]

Completely true. American sports will never equal the rabid fan support of European soccer clubs.

They are crazy! They take every game so personal, it is like life and death to them. Like somebody already said they don't have other sports to cheer for on a regular basis.

 

[Kirbydude]

HUH?

If you don't understand it supadupafly, then yir part of the problem.

Outstate Minnesotans could care less about Gopher anything. There are exceptions. But it has to do with the elitist attitude of the Twin Cities and their indifference toward rural Minnesota.

An example: There could be a fabulous tight-end recruit in Willmar, but the U of M would rather find someone in Miami.

 

[Gopher07]

Every FBS school recruits Miami heavier than they do outstate Minnesota. Either every FBS coach is whiffing on a gold mine of talent (unlikely, given that most of these men are paid way more than any of us to do their jobs and under immense pressure to win, now) or there isn't as much FBS talent in outstate Minnesota as there is in Miami.

 

[Kirbydude]

Every FBS school recruits Miami heavier than they do outstate Minnesota. Either every FBS coach is whiffing on a gold mine of talent (unlikely, given that most of these men are paid way more than any of us to do their jobs and under immense pressure to win, now) or there isn't as much FBS talent in outstate Minnesota as there is in Miami.

I'm talking about a major blue-chip player in Willmar. Isn't this thread about atmosphere in the stadium? What if people in Willmar actually gave a damn because one of their players was starting for the Gophers? Think it might make a difference? Think the kid might sweat blood and promote the program? How about a caravan of 30 cars from Willmar and a section of Willmar people cheering their guts out. Happens at Nebraska all the time. They're not bad.

Pay attention to how many rural Nebraskans actually play for the Huskers.

I've seen enough recruits from the hotbed areas to know that their 2 or 3 star rating is overblown in most cases. The players from the region don't get those ratings because they're off the ratings radar.

You guys are displaying the indifference that I wrote about. It's sad. It's one of the roots of the problem. I'm not saying that we shouldn't recruit nationally. I 'am' saying that we don't try to build from the inside-out.

 

[Husker in Gopherland]

Reminds me of South Park.

This EPIC?!

So how do we replicate anything like this at TCF?

 

[Gopher07]

Pay attention to how many rural Nebraskans actually play for the Huskers.

I count

Andrew Rodriguez (Aurora, NE pop. 4,225)
Seung Hoon Choi (Lincoln, NE pop. 258,379)
Spencer Long (Elkhorn, NE pop. 6,062, suburb of Omaha)
Jake Cotton (Lincoln, NE)
Mike Caputo (Omaha, NE pop. 408,958)
Cole Pensick (Lincoln, NE)
Jared Crick (Cozad, NE pop. 3,977)
Baker Steinkuhler (Lincoln, NE)
Sean Fisher (Omaha, NE)
Mathew May (Imperial, NE pop. 1,982)
Trevor Roach (Elkhorn, NE)
Austin Cassidy (Lincoln, NE)

As Nebraska kids on the Cornhuskers two deep for offense and defense (found here: http://nebraska.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp). So ... three? Are from rural Nebraska as I would define it. Now maybe the two deep isn't the best source, and I admit to not religiously watching the Huskers to track which players are seeing the most snaps, but I imagine it's a pretty good proxy. It is admittedly more than we have in our two deeps for "rural" players but it's not some crazy high number.

 

[Husker in Gopherland]

A couple of others...

Brett Maher (starting kicker/punter), Kearney
Justin Blatchford (DB who plays in dime packages), Ponca
Tyler Legate (starting FB), Neleigh
CJ Zimmerer (backup FB), Omaha
Graham Stoddard (special teams regular), Lincoln

But no, I do get your point in that it doesn't seem to be as many as it used to be in the 80s or 90s.

I count

Andrew Rodriguez (Aurora, NE pop. 4,225)
Seung Hoon Choi (Lincoln, NE pop. 258,379)
Spencer Long (Elkhorn, NE pop. 6,062, suburb of Omaha)
Jake Cotton (Lincoln, NE)
Mike Caputo (Omaha, NE pop. 408,958)
Cole Pensick (Lincoln, NE)
Jared Crick (Cozad, NE pop. 3,977)
Baker Steinkuhler (Lincoln, NE)
Sean Fisher (Omaha, NE)
Mathew May (Imperial, NE pop. 1,982)
Trevor Roach (Elkhorn, NE)
Austin Cassidy (Lincoln, NE)

As Nebraska kids on the Cornhuskers two deep for offense and defense (found here: http://nebraska.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp). So ... three? Are from rural Nebraska as I would define it. Now maybe the two deep isn't the best source, and I admit to not religiously watching the Huskers to track which players are seeing the most snaps, but I imagine it's a pretty good proxy. It is admittedly more than we have in our two deeps for "rural" players but it's not some crazy high number.

 

[Gopher07]

A couple of others...

Brett Maher (starting kicker/punter), Kearney
Justin Blatchford (DB who plays in dime packages), Ponca
Tyler Legate (starting FB), Neleigh
CJ Zimmerer (backup FB), Omaha
Graham Stoddard (special teams regular), Lincoln

But no, I do get your point in that it doesn't seem to be as many as it used to be in the 80s or 90s.

Thanks. I admittedly did not include special teams in my search but missed the fullback position.

I expect that, barring injury or leaving the program/not committing, we'll have at least two in our two deeps within three to four years (Jonah Pirsig from Blue Earth, and Philip Nelson from Mankato) and probably another (Josh Campion, Fergus Falls) seeing the field as well in that time, if he can get healthy, off the top of my head.

And FWIW, I'm certainly not saying outstate kids are terrible or unworthy of coming here. Our best WR probably ever came from Cold Spring. But I'm saying that it's not necessarily out of the ordinary for programs to recruit the hotbeds, and certainly not out of the ordinary for Minnesota to recruit Minnesotans from the Twin Cities metro area (which accounts for approximately 68% of the state's population) more heavily or more frequently than kids from the outstate areas.

 

[RailBaronYarr]

I count

Andrew Rodriguez (Aurora, NE pop. 4,225)
Seung Hoon Choi (Lincoln, NE pop. 258,379)
Spencer Long (Elkhorn, NE pop. 6,062, suburb of Omaha)
Jake Cotton (Lincoln, NE)
Mike Caputo (Omaha, NE pop. 408,958)
Cole Pensick (Lincoln, NE)
Jared Crick (Cozad, NE pop. 3,977)
Baker Steinkuhler (Lincoln, NE)
Sean Fisher (Omaha, NE)
Mathew May (Imperial, NE pop. 1,982)
Trevor Roach (Elkhorn, NE)
Austin Cassidy (Lincoln, NE)

As Nebraska kids on the Cornhuskers two deep for offense and defense (found here: http://nebraska.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp). So ... three? Are from rural Nebraska as I would define it. Now maybe the two deep isn't the best source, and I admit to not religiously watching the Huskers to track which players are seeing the most snaps, but I imagine it's a pretty good proxy. It is admittedly more than we have in our two deeps for "rural" players but it's not some crazy high number.

Interesting.. Austin Cassidy is in one both of my groups in the distance MBA program at UNL. Knew he played for the Huskers and when I saw his name I got confused. Good guy, btw.

 

[zambam]

If you don't understand it supadupafly, then yir part of the problem.

Outstate Minnesotans could care less about Gopher anything. There are exceptions. But it has to do with the elitist attitude of the Twin Cities and their indifference toward rural Minnesota.

An example: There could be a fabulous tight-end recruit in Willmar, but the U of M would rather find someone in Miami.

How many outstate schools have D1 talent for football? I'm from a rural community that actually has three high schools. The Public school I believe is AAAA in football, Lutheran school was AA, now is A, and the Catholic school is A. NONE of these schools have talent for FBS, some of the players could play at FCS, MAYBE. This is a rural community with THREE high schools, and I don't know of any that could play FBS.

 

[Kirbydude]

How many outstate schools have D1 talent for football? I'm from a rural community that actually has three high schools. The Public school I believe is AAAA in football, Lutheran school was AA, now is A, and the Catholic school is A. NONE of these schools have talent for FBS, some of the players could play at FCS, MAYBE. This is a rural community with THREE high schools, and I don't know of any that could play FBS.

Fair enough. How good is football, on the average, at those schools?

This following comments are not directed at you:

I'm just saying that rural Minnesota is not connected to the U. Gopher football is an afterthought...or a non-thought. The state is not behind the Gophers.

The new stadium is beautiful. The band is fantastic. The revolving door of coaches continues. That is probably the biggest factor. I was a fan of Glen Mason. He was a class-act and brought us to some decent bowl games. IMO he should not have been fired. Getting over the hill to the Rose Bowl has proven to be extremely difficult. Until the fans have a sense that the team can realistically reach for that the atmosphere won't change much.

We can have drawings for trips to Hawaii, give away t-shirts, whatever. But that's all artificial.

Nobody here knows what the Minnesota Miracle was? omg

The legislature had a formula to fund schools in out-state MN so that it would balance things out. That's why there are so many great facilities in the rural areas. That funding dried up as the political power shifted to the cities (due to the incredible growth of suburbia). The per-pupil allottment had to be equal throughout the state. It was a progressive idea that built one of the finest educational systems in the country. We were famous for it.

The worst mistake made by the U in recent history was hiring Brewster. Not his fault. He just wasn't qualified.

 

[zambam]

Fair enough. How good is football, on the average, at those schools?

The Catholic school won the state championship last year and since I had followed them went to state 4 times in 7 years. Probably the best team in the town too.