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SelectionSunday said:
I still think it's mostly lip service, just like Harrison Barnes. Says all the right things, but he'll go to one of the bigger name programs.

And Johnny makes a good point. If Devoe for some reason isn't happy or doesn't like the amount of PT he's getting from Tubby, you can bet he'll convey that mesage to his brother. Hope that's not the case.
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-1. If it was lip service he would not have his in his top 3 and certainly would not have used an official visit on us. Think positive SS.
 

SelectionSunday said:
If Devoe for some reason isn't happy or doesn't like the amount of PT he's getting from Tubby, you can bet he'll convey that mesage to his brother.
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If Devoe is unhappy about the minutes he's getting from Tubby, he can only blame himself. If he was playing better when he is in the game, he'd be getting more minutes. Not producing = more bench time.
 

Excuse me for asking this, but why is everyone convinced that Cory would be such a great get? His brother was highly recruited as well and has been a huge disappointment so far. I know Devoe was not as highly thought of as Cory is, but he had some impressive offers in his own right...
 

"If Devoe is unhappy about the minutes he's getting from Tubby, he can only blame himself. If he was playing better when he is in the game, he'd be getting more minutes."

No argument here. It appears to me that Devoe is really pressing. It's obvious he's frustrated. We could use a break-out game from him real soon to get his confidence back, something along the lines of @ Penn State last season.
 

SelectionSunday said:
I still think it's mostly lip service, just like Harrison Barnes. Says all the right things, but he'll go to one of the bigger name programs.

And Johnny makes a good point. If Devoe for some reason isn't happy or doesn't like the amount of PT he's getting from Tubby, you can bet he'll convey that mesage to his brother. Hope that's not the case.
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I know it seems absurd to say now, because they're #1. But Texas has been to exactly the same # of Final Fours in the last 20 years as we have (1) and National Championship games (0). I don't really consider them a lock to be a 'bigger' program then Minnesota over the next 5 years, this season not withstanding. They will always be first and foremost a football school. As for UConn, certainly they are more big-time then Minnesota. But I personally wouldn't feel 100% confident that Jim Calhoun will be around 5 years from now.
 


Nothing personal..but I Disagree on all points Zeppelin. Cory is a different type of player...much more highly rated and a true point guard..at more so than Devoe. While in the minority I guess, I am not disappointed with Devoe. He is only a Sophmore and is getting critical minutes on a team with solid juniors and seniors. I think Devoe will blossom nicely next year. I guess time will tell....but Devoe always looked like a classic "4 year" guy. Meaning one of those guys who really hits his stride as he gets more time and bulk.
 

My only point was that Minnesota is not currently at the same level of the other two programs, currently. Keeping us in the loop with this in mind gives a little credibility to his brother vs. just saying "you don't have a chance". Knowing that his brother is here and probably has the best truly objective view of our program vs. the others, I think he would have given us the nod if that was his choice. I'm not a psychologist, but everything tells me if he was coming to Minnesota he would have already committed.
 

I disagree with that. With CoJo on the team Nolen is going to have a hard time getting on the floor. The only time I saw him play was on ESPN a couple weeks ago, but down the stretch he WANTED the ball on every possession. Nolen just seems to pass it around until the shot clock is running down and then try to drive the lane.
 

Cory is a much more talented player than Devoe. He would see major minutes for the Gophers next year. The 2010 class that Tubby has signed so far is his least impressive to date, which is scary. Cory would change that real quick.
 



SelectionSunday said:
"If Devoe is unhappy about the minutes he's getting from Tubby, he can only blame himself. If he was playing better when he is in the game, he'd be getting more minutes."

No argument here. It appears to me that Devoe is really pressing. It's obvious he's frustrated. We could use a break-out game from him real soon to get his confidence back, something along the lines of @ Penn State last season.
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I love the talk chalking it up to a sophomore slump... How can it be a slump when hes playing at about the same level as last season? His numbers weren't that great and if you watched, he didn't play well last season either.

I still expect him to have a breakout game, but I'm not sure it will mean much for the rest of his season. After his two best games, 23 point at Penn State, followed up with 14 at Michigan... The following six games of the season vs Big Ten opponents he shot 4 of 23, 1 of 12 3PA/3PM. Add in the Texas game and Devoe finished the season going 5 of 28 and 1 of 14.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/gamelog?playerId=41567&year=2009

Sophomore slump or more of the same?
 







I look up UConn's recruiting and I still them in the mix for Brandon Knight, Josh Selby and Cory Joseph. All top point guards, the first two more highly rated than Joseph. I see Myck Kabongo another point guard (a junior) giving Texas a verbal. I keep thinking Joseph is going to go to UConn, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe one of those two commit to UConn, he knows Kabongo is going to Texas and everything falls into place and the Gophers nab him. That's my scenario and I'm sticking to it.
 

98VQueens said:
I love the talk chalking it up to a sophomore slump... How can it be a slump when hes playing at about the same level as last season? His numbers weren't that great and if you watched, he didn't play well last season either.

I still expect him to have a breakout game, but I'm not sure it will mean much for the rest of his season. After his two best games, 23 point at Penn State, followed up with 14 at Michigan... The following six games of the season vs Big Ten opponents he shot 4 of 23, 1 of 12 3PA/3PM. Add in the Texas game and Devoe finished the season going 5 of 28 and 1 of 14. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/gamelog?playerId=41567&year=2009

Sophomore slump or more of the same?
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Hard to argue with these numbers, this is his second sub-par season.
 

Sub-par compared to others, but right on par with his own play.

Let's remember that he was forced to play the 1 spot last year behind Nolan. Supposedly he's more of a 2 guard. The entrance of Cobbs as a true 1 guard this year should allow him to expand as a 2, but he's struggling to play up to his potential. I have faith that he'll work his way through it and emerge as a quality player for us. Probably won't be until next year though.
 

I watched him play a couple times - he's the type of player you need on your team if you want to win a conference title. I agree that he'll be a major contributor on whatever team he chooses, but honestly, I think Minnesota would be the best choice for him. He's never going to be the top dog at Texas, but he would be with the Gophers. Texas is certainly a better program now, and I suppose the decision all depends on whether his priorities are making a name for himself & playing with his brother on a top-20 team versus being just a key contributor and playing with a couple of his former teammates on a better team. UConn has really not done well (by their standards) in recruiting the 2009 class and 2010 class - their team right now isn't really better than Minnesota's and they lose a lot off this year's team, and their roster as it currently appears for next season (Walker, Oriahki and a host of average role players), looks like a bubble team that's probably going to the NIT if they don't get a 5* recruit in that 2010 class. I think UConn of the three ought to be #3 & the choice "should" come down to the Gophers and Texas.
 

JohnnyGopher said:
It will all come down to Devoe and how he is feeling about Minnesota at the time Cory is ready to decide. If Devoe is happy and likes the direction of the program and his and potentially Cory's place in it the next few years, the odds are very good he will be a Gopher. Texas has always been the main competition, one issue there is how long will his buddies Bradley and Thompson be there.
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If I'm Devoe Joseph, I'm thinking that it wouldn't hurt my chances/role/development to have my brother playing PG and distributing the ball. I'm urging him to come.
 

OSUfan said:
I watched him play a couple times - he's the type of player you need on your team if you want to win a conference title. I agree that he'll be a major contributor on whatever team he chooses, but honestly, I think Minnesota would be the best choice for him. He's never going to be the top dog at Texas, but he would be with the Gophers. Texas is certainly a better program now, and I suppose the decision all depends on whether his priorities are making a name for himself & playing with his brother on a top-20 team versus being just a key contributor and playing with a couple of his former teammates on a better team. UConn has really not done well (by their standards) in recruiting the 2009 class and 2010 class - their team right now isn't really better than Minnesota's and they lose a lot off this year's team, and their roster as it currently appears for next season (Walker, Oriahki and a host of average role players), looks like a bubble team that's probably going to the NIT if they don't get a 5* recruit in that 2010 class. I think UConn of the three ought to be #3 & the choice "should" come down to the Gophers and Texas.
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You're trying to rationalize a potentially irrational decision by a young kid. But, as for the UCONN comments, I think you're off. First, UCONN is better than Minnesota right now - I wish it wasn't so, but they are.

Second.. I'm not sure I'd knock their 2009 and 2010 classes. They easily had a top 15 class in 2009, including a 5-star big man (Oriakhi) and a couple of solid kids in Darius Smith and Jamal Coombs-McDaniel. For 2010, just last week they secured another strong recruit, 6’7” Roscoe Smith out of Oak Hill Academy to join with 6’10” Michael Bradley and 6’4” Jeremy Lamb as well as 6’7” Cleveland Melvin. Of the 8 2009 and 2010 recruits, you’ve got a few SGs, a few forwards, and a couple of centers… no PG. I see Kemba Walker being around at least one more year, but Cory would have an opportunity to be a star at a high-profile program.
Big East teams that lose a lot of players get a lot of the, 'ooh, they will be down.. ' and they still come out and perform at a high level (see Pitt as a 2009-10 example) and 'surprise' some people. UCONN has made the tourney in 7 of the last 8 years and 10 of the last 12... to say they are looking like a team bound for the NIT next year is silly.
There are so many little things that can go into a decision... and so many little things that can sway it on any given day. Trying to rationalize what a kid is going to do will only make you go crazy.
 

Clem's Gophers said:
I'm not sure who to fear most from Cory's previous comments. A top program like UCONN who gets players to the NBA or his friends at Texas and the coaching staff who he got downright giddy about. We are in the mix and have a 30-some +/- percent chance for a top recruit, not bad.

I like these guys, but who wants to go into next season with Nolan, Blake, Devoe, Carter and Sampson? Royce White is most important to next season, a close second is Cory Joseph and third, Trevor Mbakwe.
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Like many top high school prospects Cory's goals is to make it to the next level. Preforming well and winning some games in March is one of the best ways to draw attention from scouts. Playing with Royce and Trevor would greatly increase our chances to go deep into the tourney.

Do GH'ers think we have a better chance at Cory if Royce and Mbakwe are cleared by the time he makes his decision or is it not a factor?
 

MnHoops said:
Like many top high school prospects Cory's goals is to make it to the next level. Preforming well and winning some games in March is one of the best ways to draw attention from scouts. Playing with Royce and Trevor would greatly increase our chances to go deep into the tourney.

Do GH'ers think we have a better chance at Cory if Royce and Mbakwe are cleared by the time he makes his decision or is it not a factor?
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I would say it would increase the Gophers chances of landing him, but not greatly, because UConn and Texas can also go deep into the tournament.
 

Hard to say, he has probably never seen them play. He must know how highly ranked RW was coming out of HS, but during Cory's official visit he wasn't 'around' the team. Do recruits watch practice? Maybe he has play some pick-up with some of our guys over his other trips to Minneapolis. It has to be somewhat attractive to have at least one NBA prospect on the team you select.
 

Gopher Warrior said:
You're trying to rationalize a potentially irrational decision by a young kid. But, as for the UCONN comments, I think you're off. First, UCONN is better than Minnesota right now - I wish it wasn't so, but they are.

Second.. I'm not sure I'd knock their 2009 and 2010 classes. They easily had a top 15 class in 2009, including a 5-star big man (Oriakhi) and a couple of solid kids in Darius Smith and Jamal Coombs-McDaniel. For 2010, just last week they secured another strong recruit, 6’7” Roscoe Smith out of Oak Hill Academy to join with 6’10” Michael Bradley and 6’4” Jeremy Lamb as well as 6’7” Cleveland Melvin. Of the 8 2009 and 2010 recruits, you’ve got a few SGs, a few forwards, and a couple of centers… no PG. I see Kemba Walker being around at least one more year, but Cory would have an opportunity to be a star at a high-profile program.
Big East teams that lose a lot of players get a lot of the, 'ooh, they will be down.. ' and they still come out and perform at a high level (see Pitt as a 2009-10 example) and 'surprise' some people. UCONN has made the tourney in 7 of the last 8 years and 10 of the last 12... to say they are looking like a team bound for the NIT next year is silly.
There are so many little things that can go into a decision... and so many little things that can sway it on any given day. Trying to rationalize what a kid is going to do will only make you go crazy.
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agree, UCONN has a higher profile, are more relevant on a national level, and have had MUCH more success that the Gophs the past 20 years. I hope the Gophs get Joseph though.
 

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